inkman Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 Here is the latest! Hockeybuzz is correct about 0% of the time but I couldn't resist. EDIT: Bluefire was on top of this. Biron to Phoenix? I know it's old, but WTF?
ThePolishSabre Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 I'd do Kotalik for Seabrook. Seabrook is solid, nothing amazing but good. Makes alot less then Kotalik, so its going to free up some cash for the cap.
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 I wonder what the deal would be for Biron. I read about the Seabrook deal on the Sabres.com message board (boredom some times drives me there) and it sounds decent cause it frees up some cap space for future improvements/injury call ups. The Sabres aren't just running out of cap room, they are also running out of roster space for their players and holding some of the young ones back in Rochester right now. Definitly sounds lika a good deal considering I have only heard good things about Seabrook and he is really young right now. I don't know what they could get in Phoenix for Biron, but I did read that Phoenis is looking at trading Jovonaski for one of SJ's goalies so I'm guessing a Biron deal will only happen if that falls through. As much as no one wants it to happen, some deals will have to be made to free up some space on this team.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 Seabrook for Kotalik is a no-brainer for the Sabres, I do not see why the Hawks would do that. The keep complaining how they need a center, how does Kotalik help? I'm not saying he wouldn't crack their lineup, he'd be on their top 2 lines, but to give up a young defenseman like Seabrook, you have to get more than that. I have to believe they could get more on the open market.
X. Benedict Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 Seabrook for Kotalik is a no-brainer for the Sabres, I do not see why the Hawks would do that. The keep complaining how they need a center, how does Kotalik help? I'm not saying he wouldn't crack their lineup, he'd be on their top 2 lines, but to give up a young defenseman like Seabrook, you have to get more than that. I have to believe they could get more on the open market. This doesn't happen. But you can see why Chicago is shopping. They aren't getting much gate in Chicago.
inkman Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Posted November 20, 2006 Seabrook for Kotalik is a no-brainer for the Sabres, I do not see why the Hawks would do that. The keep complaining how they need a center, how does Kotalik help? I'm not saying he wouldn't crack their lineup, he'd be on their top 2 lines, but to give up a young defenseman like Seabrook, you have to get more than that. I have to believe they could get more on the open market. I can only think that Zagrapan, a center, or Ryan would be included in such a deal. It sounds like a steep price to pay but we have a ton of depth at forward and a move like this could help free up $$$$ next year for Drury and Briere. :D
hopeleslyobvious Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 I can only think that Zagrapan, a center, or Ryan would be included in such a deal. It sounds like a steep price to pay but we have a ton of depth at forward and a move like this could help free up $$$$ next year for Drury and Briere. :D Briere+Drury> Briere+Kotalik or Drury+Kotalik.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 I agree Ink, I just don't think those kids help Chicago NOW ... Since the odds of any of this happening are about zero, how about THIS scenario ... The Seabrook rumor came from HockeyBuzz, so here's another one from there that maybe we combine with it ... Eklund said that Chicago was considering sending Khabibulin down so that when they tried to bring him back up through waivers, someone would bite at him for half his salary (Chicago would have to pay the other half ...) SO .... What if Chicago got rid of Khabibulin that way and took Biron off the Sabres hands in exchange for Boucher ... That would clear a TON of cap space, plus then if Teppo retires, Seabrook steps in ... more space ... maybe they really try to keep Drury and Briere. And yes, this is SO far fetched I think someone spiked my lunch with crack ...
shrader Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 That deal is so beyond ridiculous. That's right up there with the one from the Biron for Bowemeister (yeah, I can't spell) deal from the offseason. Why would any team even consider it? It would take a hell of a lot more than a Mike Ryan throw in to make that deal happen.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 I know ... thing is, I don't see why Chicago would panic and deal Seabrook to anyone ... once Havlat is healthy, they are decent up front, and they are saying he is like a week away ... they are solid in goal, Seabrook is a guy you can build around on defense ... I know they are not drawing, but they haven't drawn well for years, they don't even have a home game until next week with Havlat probably back ... why not stay the course and build it right?
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 I know ... thing is, I don't see why Chicago would panic and deal Seabrook to anyone ... once Havlat is healthy, they are decent up front, and they are saying he is like a week away ... they are solid in goal, Seabrook is a guy you can build around on defense ... I know they are not drawing, but they haven't drawn well for years, they don't even have a home game until next week with Havlat probably back ... why not stay the course and build it right? MAybe their management sucks and they aren't dumb?
inkman Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Posted November 20, 2006 Former Sabre trade rumor: Meanwhile, rumors have Stuart going to the Islanders for defenseman Alexei Zhitnik. Defenseman Paul Mara?s name also has churned on the rumor mill.
Chilly Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 Of course, Darcy also did get Warrener for Wilson, Briere for Gratton, etc.
inkman Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Posted November 20, 2006 Of course, Darcy also did get Warrener for Wilson, Briere for Gratton, etc. Satan for ? Barrie Moore? I don't remember.
Taro T Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 Satan for ? Barrie Moore? I don't remember. That was a Muckler deal and Edmonton also got Craig Millar (big whoop).
inkman Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Posted November 20, 2006 That was a Muckler deal and Edmonton also got Craig Millar (big whoop). Damn you and your remembering of facts to screw up my side of the story.
Taro T Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 Damn you and your remembering of facts to screw up my side of the story. Sorry, I'll try not to let it happen again.
GoKotalik Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 i know this is stupid but as you can tell from my user name i will be very not happy if Al goes especially cause i'm still waiting on my jersey. :( yes make all the fun you want
X. Benedict Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 i know this is stupid but as you can tellfrom my user name i will be very not happy if Al goes especially cause i'm still waiting on my jersey. :( yes make all the fun you want I think you can relax about this one.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Posted November 20, 2006 NOthing to make fun of there, that would suck, but like X says, this deal is not happening, definitely not straight up like that.
Corp000085 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 after that period, you can throw peters in there... can't justify sending back paille now!
BetweenThePipes00 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 Well the price of Al Kotalik is going up by the minute ... ;)
ThePolishSabre Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 after that period, you can throw peters in there... can't justify sending back paille now! Even if we dump Peters or whatever we still have to send Paille down once Roy comes back.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 Here is the latest! Hockeybuzz is correct about 0% of the time but I couldn't resist. EDIT: Bluefire was on top of this. Biron to Phoenix? I know it's old, but WTF? If I am darcy I take the deal with chicago immediately.
apuszczalowski Posted November 21, 2006 Report Posted November 21, 2006 the problem is, in the salary cap days, you need a couple guys on the roster who aren't making much, so you may need to dump a player because of salary restriction. The problem is, Peters makes less then most of the guys coming up from Rochestor so to keep them up it will cost the team more and they can't afford more salary right now
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