RVJ Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Is he in la la land. Lets in at least two soft goals. He should be pulled.
Guest Stuck at Work Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Anymore updated on the game? Still 3-1 NYI?
Strow Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Sabres down 3-2. 5 minutes left in the second period.
KD in CT Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Nice job killing off back to back penalties at the end of the 2d. Still 3-2....Sabres looked good in the 2d period. Garth Snow has made some good saves to keep them from tying it up.
Strow Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 sabres up 4-3 on two power play goals.
Strow Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Check that drury scores off the face off now up 5-3
JujuFish Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 6-3 final. Interestingly enough 6 different Sabres scored and each of them also had an assist.
Guest Guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Good on Ruff for sticking with Miller after a shaky first period. It shows confidence in Miller and the team's ability to bounce back, which they've shown yet again.
KD in CT Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Great showing...they really dominated the last two periods.
Guest Stuck at Work Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Would anyone be kind enough to tell me who scored tonight? Thank you!
Taro T Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Would anyone be kind enough to tell me who scored tonight? Thank you! Scoring Summary 1st Period Buffalo 5:51, Ales Kotalik 17 (Brian Campbell, Tim Connolly) NY Islanders 10:33, Jason Blake 16 (Mike York, Chris Campoli) NY Islanders 12:03, Alexei Yashin 14 (Arron Asham) NY Islanders 19:53, Miroslav Satan 16 (power play) (Chris Campoli, Alexei Yashin) 2nd Period Buffalo 2:09, Maxim Afinogenov 8 (power play) (Thomas Vanek, Chris Drury) 3rd Period Buffalo 9:25, Brian Campbell 7 (power play) (Chris Drury, Tim Connolly) Buffalo 15:01, Thomas Vanek 10 (power play) (Ales Kotalik, Derek Roy) Buffalo 15:12, Chris Drury 13 (Jochen Hecht) Buffalo 19:43, Jochen Hecht 8 (empty net) (Maxim Afinogenov)
RVJ Posted December 27, 2005 Author Report Posted December 27, 2005 Good on Ruff for sticking with Miller after a shaky first period. It shows confidence in Miller and the team's ability to bounce back, which they've shown yet again. I think the rest of the team bailed out Miller. He only had to save 10 non quality shots after he let in the first three. But everyones going to have an off night once in a while. Did you know Miller was named the defensive player of the week ?
hopeleslyobvious Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Is he in la la land. Lets in at least two soft goals. He should be pulled. Maybe his two starts last week earned him a little room for error. He isn't going to be perfect every night. Especially since he is still developing. It seems like a lot better of an idea to show him you have some faith in him then it does to yank him after giving up one or two soft goals.
DrunkenSabre Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 nice game tonight, was a good performance. im really happy with our play lately. Drury's coming out of his shell. but i hope briere would be back in the lineup!
LabattBlue Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 The first goal was weak as Miller was caught halfway between staying up and going down. The second goal wasn't nearly as bad, but appeared to be stoppable. That being said, the Sabres really clamped down on defense and did not let the Isles get many good chances the remainder of the game.
jp... Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 If that was Marty in net last night and he gave up those two goals, people would be screaming
Kristian Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 If that was Marty in net last night and he gave up those two goals, people would be screaming Maybe that's cause Marty has years of NHL experience that Miller doesn't have, thus you expect the kid to make mistakes, you wouldn't expect from an NHL veteran? Or maybe it's just that people have seen Marty make those very mistakes, too many times? Rest assured, if Miller turns out to play just like Marty over the next few years, I'll be screaming every time he allows a softie just like I would when Marty allows one, but the jury's still out on Miller. With Marty, what you see is what you get.
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 Also, Miller doesn't make 2.2MM a year. Biron has been playing above average, but he should be at this point in his career. I think that people are so quick to get on Biron's case because he lost us too many games in the two years before the playoffs. Am I the only one that remembers cringing on every shot that an opponent took against him during those years? I still don't like how he sometimes turns 360 degrees around in the crease when the puck goes behind the net.
Hsoj25 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 miller lets in two softies and they STILL complain about biron. lol
deluca67 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 Also, Miller doesn't make 2.2MM a year. Biron has been playing above average, but he should be at this point in his career. I think that people are so quick to get on Biron's case because he lost us too many games in the two years before the playoffs. Am I the only one that remembers cringing on every shot that an opponent took against him during those years? I still don't like how he sometimes turns 360 degrees around in the crease when the puck goes behind the net. You have no idea what you're talking about. Try looking up Marty's numbers. Save some time and go to the Sabres All Time Records list. 4th in games played 246 5th in minutes 13,775 5th in wins 103 2nd in shutouts 17 2nd in gaa. 2.44 You're right. Marty has been a sive. And what does " he lost us too many games in the two years before the playoffs. " mean? :blink:
jp... Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 4th in games played 246 5th in minutes 13,775 5th in wins 103 2nd in shutouts 17 2nd in gaa. 2.44 You're right. Marty has been a sive. And Marty did this in : 01-02) his first full year after the Sabres trade one of the best goalies ever and the heart and soul of the team in Peca, and replaced them with Kozlov...but it's Biron that can't get the Sabres to the playoffs... 02-03) a year that produced not only the worst defense the sabres have had but probably the worst season as far as the "team" in general...but it's Biron that can't get the Sabres to the playoffs... 03-04) once Ruff had no choice to stop the goalie mess because of injuries and the team was too far back to make it, Biron shines in the new year and plays the best hockey of his short career and gains confidence...but again, it's Biron that can't get the Sabres into the playoffs... 05-06) outside of the Ottawa disasters, Biron helped the Sabres with an incredible run that probably will solitify the Sabres making the playoffs...but this team would have done it with or without Biron... Deluca, as usual, well said
hopeleslyobvious Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 You have no idea what you're talking about. Try looking up Marty's numbers. Save some time and go to the Sabres All Time Records list. 4th in games played 246 5th in minutes 13,775 5th in wins 103 2nd in shutouts 17 2nd in gaa. 2.44 You're right. Marty has been a sive. And what does " he lost us too many games in the two years before the playoffs. " mean? :blink: I will admit Marty has some pretty damn good numbers, but numbers don't tell the whole story. I have found him to have a history of coming up short in the clutch. I know that any examples will be anecdotal, and it means nothing, but it's my opinion. And anyone can pretty much say "He's great in the clutch," and there aren't really any stats to back it up. Looking at the two side by side today, I think Miller has a slight edge over Biron, and judging by their ages, Miller is likely going to much better in the future. So I am willing to give him a little room for error.
deluca67 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 I will admit Marty has some pretty damn good numbers, but numbers don't tell the whole story. I have found him to have a history of coming up short in the clutch. I know that any examples will be anecdotal, and it means nothing, but it's my opinion. And anyone can pretty much say "He's great in the clutch," and there aren't really any stats to back it up. Looking at the two side by side today, I think Miller has a slight edge over Biron, and judging by their ages, Miller is likely going to much better in the future. So I am willing to give him a little room for error. Why are so many not willing to give Marty the same benefit of the doubt they throw on Regier? On the one hand people say Regier couldn't go out and get players because of the whole Rigas mess and the financial status of the team. And on the hand? People complain about Marty not carrying this team when they admit they were lacking in talent in front of him? Since last mid season Marty is like 30-10(est.) as a starter. Put a team in front of him and he can win.
LabattBlue Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 And on the hand? People complain about Marty not carrying this team when they admit they were lacking in talent in front of him? Since last mid season Marty is like 30-10(est.) as a starter. Put a team in front of him and he can win. It's not that I want to get rid of Marty...I would love to keep him as the #2 to Miller in case Miller falters down the stretch. The problem is that our blueliners(specifically Campbell and Fitzpatrick) scare the crap out of me and I believe that if we don't make a move to improve this group, it will be our downfall come playoff time. As I've stated over and over again the cupboard is bare in terms of d-men down on the farm, so you better hope we can keep this group(McKee, Tallinder, Lydman, Numminen & Kalinin) injury free. So how do we improve the blueline? Deal from strength, and goaltenders are by far the deepest position we have. So sometime after the 1st of the year, deal Biron, a pick(#1 if necessary and/or a prospect) for a quality blueliner.
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted December 29, 2005 Report Posted December 29, 2005 All those numbers show is that Marty played a ton of games for the Sabres, which he did. The numbers also show he is only a .500 goalie, so let's not play it up like he is a superstar. What the numbers aren't going to show is how the team lost faith in him in previous years when he let up soft goals in bad situations. Don't get me wrong, Biron has shown flashes of brilliance, which is why the team made him their #1 guy and started him for 69 games in the '01-'02 seasons. This season he looks the best he ever has, but I can't think of too many people that would seriously consider hampering the progress of Miller by waiting to see if Biron is for real this time. I agree with LabattBlue below, we should trade Biron while his value is high for a solid blue-liner. Fitzpatrick still has a lot of developing to do. I think that packaging those two guys together right now could get us a much needed big and experienced defensemen that is a good skater. McKee and Numminem are great blue-liners, but they are not the fastest guys out there. (I said playoffs in a previous post but I should have said lockout, I guess I have playoffs on the mind but who doesn't :D )
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