apuszczalowski Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Things must be in pretty good shape if all people care about is a logo. :lol: All I care about is if B-Rod is going to play up to the $5 million dollar price tag and where will the teams toughness come from with McKee and Griere gone. Not to mention I want to see if the first year wonders that came up big last season fall into a sophmore jinx. As far as the logo? If it sells and increases the teams revenues to a point where thet can maintain the level of salary they are at now? I'll but two. ;) Damn it, Now I am agreeing with Deluca, now I know there is a serious problem I have been saying every since the first crybaby came out and whined because they didn't go back to the original (outdated) uniforms, or one of the celsius designs that who cares what the uniforms look like, as long as the team is winning.
Quickdraw Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 It will be interesting to see how it sells, to see if the seemingly universal hatred of the logo was just all talk. I'm afraid if this board is any indication, it was. Although the Sabres will certainly announce next week how great sales are of the new uniform, the proof will be on game night. I hear what you're saying, but people can change their minds. The reason I'm not so gung-ho about getting a throwback sweater is it's the old colors. In two to three years the colors on that sweater are going to change...so I figured maybe I'll buy a slug jersey this year, and when they finally change the throwbacks I'll get one then too.
Bmwolf21 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 You forgot to add us other 30,250 pissed off "crybaby" petition signers at fixthelogo.com :angry: Seems to be a bit more than 25, wouldn't you say ?? Check and mate. i'll second that, vegas. and, hsoj, if you're going to take a poke at people who feel strongly about every aspect of the the team and franchise, i'd suggest first that you get your hands (remotely) around the facts. anyway, i'll raise a glass (well, a cup of coffee at this hour) to all the "crybabies," who, i verily believe, will get this team into a sweater worthy of their tradition and future. This "crybaby" is raising his glass with you, Aud Smell...and if I am wrong, and it sells like hotcakes, and the slug becomes is universally loved, and the petitioners at fixthelogo.com say they were wrong - then maybe I'll come around to the dark side. At the very least I'll wait and get one of the 3rd jerseys when it gets the darker blue treatment. It will be interesting to see how it sells, to see if the seemingly universal hatred of the logo was just all talk. I'm afraid if this board is any indication, it was. Although the Sabres will certainly announce next week how great sales are of the new uniform, the proof will be on game night. For everyone who says they will buy the uniform to support the team, why not just buy the throwback?! That's what this cheapskate is going to do. Anyone want to go halfsies? :) I'm with you on this one, PA - it seemed people were more united on their disapproval of the logo and whatnot - and now, (to paraphrase something I saw on another message board) because they've put this turd in a really nice toilet bowl, people think the turd looks OK. Either way - its still a turd... BTW - if any of you guys are tired of hearing the vocal minority...err "crybabies" hold their ground in regards to an obviously bad logo, there's an easy solution - don't click on the thread. You don't buy a ticket for a movie you aren't interested in, so why come in here and complain about the people giving their honest assessments? If you hate the logo but don't want to talk about anymore, fine - we do. If you like the logo, that's fine too - but don't attack those of us (all 30,000+) who still think it looks like crap.
hopeleslyobvious Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Check and mate. This "crybaby" is raising his glass with you, Aud Smell...and if I am wrong, and it sells like hotcakes, and the slug becomes is universally loved, and the petitioners at fixthelogo.com say they were wrong - then maybe I'll come around to the dark side. At the very least I'll wait and get one of the 3rd jerseys when it gets the darker blue treatment. So you hate it, but if everyone else likes it you will change your mind?
Bmwolf21 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 So you hate it, but if everyone else likes it you will change your mind? No, but if everyone else likes it, then I will know we have lost the fight for a new logo, and will find some way to support my team, as I said, by at least buying a new darker blue 3rd jersey. Right now I can't see myself wearing a slugalo, but things change, and it might grow on me like the goathead did - maybe to the point where I no longer dislike it, but that i am indifferent to it.
Claude_Verret Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I want this to be news one last time on Saturday. Hopefully at that time LQ will address questions and give straight answers about the logo design process. I really want to know how they came to a consensus that the slug was the best option. After that I'm ready to move on and get behind the boys for the Cup run!
mrjsbu96 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 It will be interesting to see how it sells, to see if the seemingly universal hatred of the logo was just all talk. I'm afraid if this board is any indication, it was. Although the Sabres will certainly announce next week how great sales are of the new uniform, the proof will be on game night. For everyone who says they will buy the uniform to support the team, why not just buy the throwback?! That's what this cheapskate is going to do. Anyone want to go halfsies? :) I flipped through this whole thread and can't come up with anything that has not already been said. I like this point PA and my two cents is this new logo still blows chunks. I don't care that they dressed up the colors, the logo ssssssucks and that is the bottom line. I will not buy anything that remotely resembles the banana and the only new items I will buy are original blue and gold sold on Ebay or wherever...
Quickdraw Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 What if we developed a patch made up of the old logo and just slap it on top of the slug? The rest of the jersey looks sweet.
USMCSnyper Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Anybody have an idea if the NHL Shop will have these items on Saturday as well or do we have to travel to HSBC to get them.....? Anybody have an idea if the NHL Shop will have these items on Saturday as well or do we have to travel to HSBC to get them.....?
Spandrel Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I don't mind the style of the jersey, but, yeah, I can't deal with the slug logo. It just looks too cartoonish. I'd even settle for the goat head in the colors of the new jersey, to be honest.
Braedon Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 El Crusho, you're freaking killing me with the Elton John, Ellen Degeneres resets. I'm crying right now. Well I'll take my lumps in not believing that was the real photo. Way to go, can't even introduce the jersey right. We can't build a bridge, we can't build a casino, our waterfront looks like poo, now we can't unleash the jersey. Maybe they did this to let the steam out, bring the hype down a notch so they don't get a DNabb introduction tomorrow. See you at the arena boys, see you at the arena.
Screamin'Weasel Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I am calling BS on this. That is not the new sweater. First off, some of you pointed out inconsistancies between this and what LQ made claims of. Instead of being skeptical about a jersey posted on line, you claim LQ was not honest. Next, the stripes on this do not match the stripes on the shorts. The shorts were grey and yellow, side by side, with NO white. Where's the grey in these? Why so much white and striping that is different than on the shorts? No skewered B's on shoulders said Quinn, yet there is the handle of one. Wordmark, says Quinn (and Dope and the Bullfrog), yet none here. Incomplete, says Quinn. What we saw was only part of the complete logo says Quinn. This is exactly what we saw. Too many inconsistancies. I am not buying it. Talented people with photoshop/illustrator skills could easily fake this. If wrong, I will gladly take my lumps. Let the lumping begin. :blush: First off, in the pic I looked at, there are grey stripes that just looked white to me. My bad there. Second, I made the obvious mistake of assuming Larry Quinn was being honest in his press conference with the claims he made. Now that it is confirmed as real, I demand answers from Mr. Quinn: Why did you say the logo we saw was incomplete? It looks the same as we saw months ago on the leaked style sheet. Why did you say the skewered B would not be used? One can clearly see part of it on the jersey in that image. What is the "unused element" in this jersey design you made claim of? Numbers on the chest? That's it? That place has always been reserved for special patches (Champion patch, anniversary patch, "notable death" patches, etc.) and we have the jersey numbers... Call me bitter, but I am still disappointed they screwed up something that easily could have been so good. I'll also be honest and say the sweater (sans patches) looks great (what can be seen of it). They are still hiding some of it, btw. Look at the way the sweater is folded in the photo. The sleeves are upside down. This not only hides the sleeve numbers but the true look of what the striping will look like. And it is awfully convenient that the skewered B is cut off from view (maybe LQ hopes we forgot what he said). As I stated when I began, let the lumping begin. PS - On a side note (yet oddly related), as anyone seen the new sweaters for the AHL's San Antonio Rampage? Striping look familiar?
Sabre Dance Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I want this to be news one last time on Saturday. Hopefully at that time LQ will address questions and give straight answers about the logo design process. I really want to know how they came to a consensus that the slug was the best option. After that I'm ready to move on and get behind the boys for the Cup run! Yes, I think that is the way to look at this. It will be interesting to hear what kind of spin is put on the whole (goofed-up) introduction, but after that - it's hockey season again! It then becomes time for retribution against the godless Hurricanes....... -Ed :D
Kevbeau Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 [Looks again] Nope, still hate it. From what little I can make out, the jersey itself looks like a nice design and I do like the colors. But as for the logo...you can put a bow on a piece of schiat and gift wrap it, but know what? It still stinks. Maybe I'll buy a blank and get Sabres put on it diagonally, ala the Avs and Rangers. Looks like I'll still be rockin' my Mike Hartman Old style white jersey.
inkman Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Prepare to take your lumps boys! What actually happened was that they put it on the wbsite and only showed pieces of it. It said something to the effect of watch the pieces come together and it was going to slowly fill in as the coundown went down so it would be complete by Saturday. only problem was that you were able to manipulate how fast it filled in by right clicking on it and refreshing it. So it wasn't just accidently leaked! Once they realized this loophole they took it off. I saw it on the sabres.com site myself. It is not photoshopped. May I add that I will be buying it. I like it. :D Who do they have working there, Homer Simpson? I've been reading that "cyber-sleuths" unveiled the jersey with techy know how. It sounds like my cat could have figured this out.
Stoner Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Maybe they did this to let the steam out, bring the hype down a notch so they don't get a DNabb introduction tomorrow. Right on! I agree. I think both the logo and the jersey were leaked by the Sabres. They are trying to cut critics off at the knees -- kind of like the poor handicapped buffalo on our sweater now. And guess what? It has worked. By the way, I love Tim Graham's article today that read like a press release from the Sabres. Yes, a "hacker" entered the site and "decoded" the image with his decoder ring and some lemon juice. JCH. I'm picturing Matthew Broderick here in "War Games." I mean, if you're going to hack the Sabres computer, wouldn't you immediately check out Darcy's IM logs?
inkman Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I'm #%^$#!ing sick and tired of all these newbies coming in here and boasting these "wait - they'll show you" posts. New posters are cool, but don't just kick the damn door down, start insulting everyone without doing a little research. ARGH!
Sabre Dance Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Who do they have working there, Homer Simpson? I've been reading that "cyber-sleuths" unveiled the jersey with techy know how. It sounds like my cat could have figured this out. Have you seen that TV commercial for CareerBuilder.com with the office full of chimps? There you go - Sabres marketing department and web masters. -Ed :D
sskot13 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 They really should have not put it up with out some type of security, I seen it when they had it up. It was done in Macromedia Flash and if you know the program, you can easily right click on it and keep on refreshing it until it shows up completely. P.S it wasnt me who posted it! Oh and Does anyone know if the unveiling will be televised tomorrow?
Bmwolf21 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Have you seen that TV commercial for CareerBuilder.com with the office full of chimps? There you go - Sabres marketing department and web masters. -Ed :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Strow Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I'm #%^$#!ing sick and tired of all these newbies coming in here and boasting these "wait - they'll show you" posts. New posters are cool, but don't just kick the damn door down, start insulting everyone without doing a little research. ARGH! I hear that. In the words of Little Jimmy Norton " It stinks and I don't like it!" I hope tomorrow the Booooo's ring for a very long time. Its a shame this have over shadowed what looks to be a great season for the Sabres.
JonathanH Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 To me its always looked like a ghost, rather then a slug. Ive seen slugs, some are yellow and have no legs, thats the similarites. It doesn't have a buffalo head. nor a back. In my opinion slug is used as a negative connotation. You know propaganda that the "traditionalists" use. (no im not larry quinn) This logo is more then the last one, its got a head with a back, the legs will come later on I'm sure, it gets legs when the Sabres win a Stanley cup. But the blue is perfect, unlike another team in town. I love yellow. I went to Canisius and the all yellow/gold basketball uniforms were sweet. Mr. Golisano is a business man, changing the uniforms was a business decision. The Sabres are a business, not a public service. If you want to go to games, wearing the old stuff great, they will be glad to take your money, and charge you 5 bucks for a beer. Mr Golisano can do what he wants, he saved this team from going somewhere else, especially at a time, when there wasn't much support for the team, and losing tens of millions. So he wants to put his stamp on the team with his own uni, fine by me. Thanks to him, we get 41+ NHL games in town every year. And the revenue that generates.
sabrefaninhbgpa Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I've heard the argument that the new look completely throws out the tradition of the Sabres, and I couldn't agree more. Well, here's another tradition the Sabres broke this summer, which is the tradition of ownership doing what it takes to keep a team nucleus from winning a Stanley Cup. G*ddamn those idiots Golisano and Quinn. How dare they spend right up to the cap to try a bring a championship to Buffalo. Don't they understand that the tradition of first round playoff dumps are the tradition us Sabres fans cherish more than anything? Lets fire Darcy and Lindy while were at it. Three trips to the conference finals and one trip to the finals in eight years is not what I remember my beloved Sabres accomplishing when I was a kid going to Sweet Home. I would much rather go back to the days of applauding Punch Imlach's decision to draft Ric Seiling instead of that 4-time Stanley Cup loser Hall-of-Famer Mike Bossy. Boy, I sure am glad we have only two trips to the finals in our history. It would be horrendous to have the clutter of Stanley Cup banners hanging from the HSBC Arena rafters like they have at the Bell Centre in Montreal. I like a sparse and neat rafter area myself. Our tradition of always-the-bridesmaid-but-never-the-bride is so strong that even Scotty Bowman found it necessary to comply. Think about it, the Sabres are the only team Bowman had ever worked for that he did not at least take to the finals. He even took the freakin' Blues to the finals in the 60s. Yet he still managed to uphold the Sabres tradition of playoff disappointment while he was in Buffalo. Any straying from that tradition by the current administration is an outrage.
hopeleslyobvious Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I hear that. In the words of Little Jimmy Norton " It stinks and I don't like it!" I hope tomorrow the Booooo's ring for a very long time. Its a shame this have over shadowed what looks to be a great season for the Sabres. Yeah, boo the players. Good move.
Bmwolf21 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I've heard the argument that the new look completely throws out the tradition of the Sabres, and I couldn't agree more. Well, here's another tradition the Sabres broke this summer, which is the tradition of ownership doing what it takes to keep a team nucleus from winning a Stanley Cup. G*ddamn those idiots Golisano and Quinn. How dare they spend right up to the cap to try a bring a championship to Buffalo. Don't they understand that the tradition of first round playoff dumps are the tradition us Sabres fans cherish more than anything? Lets fire Darcy and Lindy while were at it. Three trips to the conference finals and one trip to the finals in eight years is not what I remember my beloved Sabres accomplishing when I was a kid going to Sweet Home. I would much rather go back to the days of applauding Punch Imlach's decision to draft Ric Seiling instead of that 4-time Stanley Cup loser Hall-of-Famer Mike Bossy. Boy, I sure am glad we have only two trips to the finals in our history. It would be horrendous to have the clutter of Stanley Cup banners hanging from the HSBC Arena rafters like they have at the Bell Centre in Montreal. I like a sparse and neat rafter area myself. Our tradition of always-the-bridesmaid-but-never-the-bride is so strong that even Scotty Bowman found it necessary to comply. Think about it, the Sabres are the only team Bowman had ever worked for that he did not at least take to the finals. He even took the freakin' Blues to the finals in the 60s. Yet he still managed to uphold the Sabres tradition of playoff disappointment while he was in Buffalo. Any straying from that tradition by the current administration is an outrage. :blink: I'm not quite sure what to make of this post...
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