Stoner Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I really like the Alt_Buffalo at the bottom of this page: http://www.celsiusdesign.net/sabres/logos.html If they added some crossed sabres to that buffalo, I would be a very happy man. But, come on, it's too late. For whatever reason, it didn't work out for this designer. Whoever he is, wherever he is, I hope he's doing well in this field. He's very talented. My beef with his concept that everyone likes is that the buffalo looked very jagged and computer-generated.
chileanseabass Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 i'm hoping this is just one of the "rejected" designs. i remember about 5 years ago when the caps were going to do a new logo and jersey (again, after having recently done it) and somehow the jersey design leaked and a hockey supply company (ocean out of new jersey) put it in their catalogs. well, the caps ended up pulling those jerseys and never using them.
SCSabresFan! Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 As far as the petition on the Celcius site, it's too self-serving. A legitimate petition should be more grassroots, with no connection to the designer. PTR I wouldn't mind throwing him a bone. I'm sure these designs he did on his spare time and without compensation. They kick ass - plain and simple and he should be rewarded for the effort. Maybe the Dali Lama will give him total consciousness on his deathbed.
shrader Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 i'm hoping this is just one of the "rejected" designs. i remember about 5 years ago when the caps were going to do a new logo and jersey (again, after having recently done it) and somehow the jersey design leaked and a hockey supply company (ocean out of new jersey) put it in their catalogs. well, the caps ended up pulling those jerseys and never using them. It's going to be even more funny when the Sabres start off the 06-07 season wearing the current uniforms. Then people will finally realize how pointless all of this is.
inkman Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 MY AVATAR BETTER BE THE SABRES NEXT LOGO. Hell, I'd rather have Promo's Avatar as the logo. :o
IKnowPhysics Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 For those not familiar with how logo/jersey changing works, it usually goes something like this: The team makes the decision to change logos, or get a new alternate, etc. It's almost always a marketing decision, and the unveilings are planned to be right before the season or as nearest to the holidays as possible. A committee is formed of marketing, general managing, equipment managing, and others to administer the process. Phone calls to all local logo designers and powerful-enough marketing firms, as well as many around the country, are made, and each will usually submit a few ideas before a deadline. In our case, this deadline was sometime back in the fall. The ideas are screened by the committee, based on a general set of rules (which colors are right, can the jersey actually be constructed (ie not too many different mesh fields), what's not total ass, etc). The ones that pass the screening, are taken by the marketing department, and shown to test groups to get feedback. This process eliminates many, many options. They take the winners, examine the feedback, and work with the artists to adapt the concept to incorporate all the good and drop all the bad. They go back to the test groups with a finalist group of logos, and they hear the feedback. A decision by the committee is made, the owners approve, and the new logo/jersey is kept secret until the unveiling if you're not the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim. All of this was done by the time Larry Quinn admitted to WGR on-air that we're going to change as soon as the NHL-RBK deal was anounced and that the test-groups had already seen the logos. We're currently at this point. For those that don't like this logo idea, and I might be with you, there's hope. Almost all of the ideas submitted need to be on a form, so the test groups all have the same backgrounds to the image. There might be hundreds of new Sabres logos on official-looking forms floating around. Chances are that this is one got rejected early, and has been leaked by the artist or firm that designed it. This logo, if it's an authentic submission, was designed by the Atlanta-based J Patton Sports Marketing Group (http://www.jpattonsports.com). They've done NHL, ECHL, NCAA, IRL, CFL, AFL, and a bunch of other logo shiznit. Their main phone number is (770) 612-0400. The phone number on the image is (770) 612-0476. Give 'em a call! Something fun to try would be to fax ((770) 612-0439) them that "confidential image." Maybe ask on the same page if this is confirmed as a go. You'll have the Buffalo area code on the fax info.
IKnowPhysics Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 And the more I look at it, the more it reminds me of the Chargers logo. http://www.sportsfanstores.com/images/NFL/...sN223zracin.jpg
Hawerchuk Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Just keep the demonic goathead if this is the new logo, will ya please!!
PromoTheRobot Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 The ones that pass the screening, are taken by the marketing department, and shown to test groups to get feedback. This process eliminates many, many options. The dreaded "focus group" is where many a bad decision is made. I have been through enough of them to know that there are a million things that can go wrong: Group moderator is incompetant, asks the wrong questions, interprets the reactions incorrectly, testing on wrong group, badly assembled group, too few focus groups for a proper sample, unwilling to reveal too much info too group for fear of leaks, someone in the organization likes one idea best and makes that clear going in to the focus group moderator, etc, etc etc! It's actually a miracle if an idea that comes out of this process actually succeeds! PTR
Rayzor32 Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Sugar has that effect on you? "Sugar" - Is that the street name for it nowadays?
SCSabresFan! Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 info@pattonondemand.com or call 770-612-0400
Kevbeau Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 After much deliberation (a few seconds), I have decided this must be for the new Buffalo, Wyoming WCHL franchise as one could wipe their *ss and come up with a better design. ....I hope they didn't pay to much for this modern art disaster.
zow2 Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I'm surprised some of you haven't lifted the links from a poster on HFBoards giving some credibility to the swoosh Buffalo head logo. Check out the Sabres chopper swoosh gas tank and also the HSBC swoosh logo. They kind of resemble the logo. http://www.rodandpiston.com/cruise/sandr06...b/randp_263.jpg http://www.hsbcarena.com/
ET1062 Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Who did the Sabres hire to design those new logos? Former WWF Superstar The Ultimate Warrior????
jwnikita Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I called the phone number this morning and spoke to the guy who answered. He told me he didn't know what I was talking about but he thanked me for the call.
BuffalOhio Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I wouldn't mind throwing him a bone. I'm sure these designs he did on his spare time and without compensation. They kick ass - plain and simple and he should be rewarded for the effort. Maybe the Dali Lama will give him total consciousness on his deathbed. So he's got that going for him, which is nice....
eball Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I'm surprised some of you haven't lifted the links from a poster on HFBoards giving some credibility to the swoosh Buffalo head logo. Check out the Sabres chopper swoosh gas tank and also the HSBC swoosh logo. They kind of resemble the logo. http://www.rodandpiston.com/cruise/sandr06...b/randp_263.jpg http://www.hsbcarena.com/ Good find (the HSBC one)...all that tells me, though, is that somebody making a bid thought it might be a good idea to incorporate the arena logo into their design. Nothing more. I still think (hope) this is a fake.
Claude_Verret Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Good find (the HSBC one)...all that tells me, though, is that somebody making a bid thought it might be a good idea to incorporate the arena logo into their design. Nothing more. I still think (hope) this is a fake. I think you're right. The more I look at it, these HAVE to be fake. You'd have to be brain dead to think these are a good idea.
SCSabresFan! Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I think you're right. The more I look at it, these HAVE to be fake. You'd have to be brain dead to think these are a good idea. Do you know any focus groups or Marketing people?
Claude_Verret Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Do you know any focus groups or Marketing people? :lol: I hear you, but still don't the higher ups in the Sabres organization have the final say? I just find it hard to believe that this design would be the one to meet their final seal of approval.
apuszczalowski Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 I really hope that these are the actual design only because it pisses everyone off that were whining that Buffalo HAS TO GO BACK TO BLUE AND GOLD and need a new logo. Guess what, now you got it and are still crying that its not what you wanted or that its not the old uniforms. Face it people, as much as you wish and hope, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO ACK TO THEIR OLD UNIFORMS. The closest you will get is a redesign of the old uniform and from the sounds of it, they are going for a complete redisgn using a different shade of Blue and Gold (even though the original was technically more of a yellow then gold)
fushetti Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 There is an online petition on his website. If I lived in the Buffalo area, I would contact some members of the press. They would love to jump on a story like this. Underdog vs. Corporate big wigs. Anyone have connections? Where is Rick Azar when we need him! We already took it to the press in March 2003. He was on local radio shows....
SCSabresFan! Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 We already took it to the press in March 2003. He was on local radio shows.... We'll try again! VIVA DECOCK!
Kevbeau Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 Do you know any focus groups or Marketing people? Somebody give the man a prize!!! Remember New Coke? All the marketing folks though they had a winner because the fous groups told them so.
nodnarb Posted June 28, 2006 Report Posted June 28, 2006 http://www.celsiusdesign.net/sabres/jerseys.html now THOSE are pretty well done. I'd be really happy with any of those, but particularly set 2 or 4. If that alien viking head with a zorro mask is the next logo, i'm going have trouble getting out of bed the day after it's official.
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