Sabres Hire Chief Commercial Officer

[That Aud Smell]

46 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

 

Great clip.

I still don't follow.

Pete Guelli = Willi Cicci?

[Doohickie]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

Same with the Labatt's Bear commercial where he's complaining the worst part about living in Canada is sleeping on hard rocks and then the hot brunette he's talking to says she's got a waterbed.  "Check please."

Spent an inordinate amount of time trying to find that one a few year's back.

The bear commercials were great.  I miss the days when they showed the local commercials during the out of market games.  And that fish commercial:  "We were biting this morning.... we were biting this morning."

[Pimlach]

33 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Great clip.

I still don't follow.

Pete Guelli = Willi Cicci?

 

My frustration with the way the Sabres are managed is reaching extremely high levels.  

Terry scrapped One Buffalo and made the teams operate separately and hopefully better focused on their businesses.  Then Terry hires one guy (Guelli) for two COO jobs (Sabres and Bills).   

Now Guelli brings in a Sabres ticket sales guy.   That actually makes more sense to me, but highlights the continuous changes and window dressing that occur.  Hence, my joke.  The new guy is buffering Guelli.    If tickets sales continue to sag, the buffer gets it, not Guelli.   It is just an attempt at humor.  

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:37 PM by Pimlach

[Taro T]

25 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

The bear commercials were great.  I miss the days when they showed the local commercials during the out of market games.  And that fish commercial:  "We were biting this morning.... we were biting this morning."

Our dog loved that fish commercial, because he'd get a special treat on Saturday morning and always told him "aw, but it's Saturday."  As soon as he heard that, he was off to where the treats were kept.  Didn't even need to hear "we were biting this morning, we were biting this morning."

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, tom webster said:

This is a pretty significant hire for the business side of things.

Any word on whether he's replacing the current VP of Revenue Strategy or is he going to be that person's boss now?

[Believer]

9 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Any word on whether he's replacing the current VP of Revenue Strategy or is he going to be that person's boss now?

You beat me to it.

[That Aud Smell]

42 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

My frustration with the way the Sabres are managed is reaching extremely high levels.  

Terry scrapped One Buffalo and made the teams operate separately and hopefully better focused on their businesses.  Then Terry hires one guy (Guelli) for two COO jobs (Sabres and Bills).   

Now Guelli brings in a Sabres ticket sales guy.   That actually makes more sense to me, but highlights the continuous changes and window dressing that occur.  Hence, my joke.  The new guy is buffering Guelli.    If tickets sales continue to sag, the buffer gets it, not Guelli.   It is just an attempt at humor.  

 

It’s good stuff. Subtle! I appreciate it.

[PerreaultForever]

So that's the plan? Just better marketing? 

Sometimes I think Pegula has already decided he will eventually sell the team and he's just extracting what value he can and waiting for that expansion money to roll in and when franchises hit the level he's decided it'll be gone. I mean is there another explanation for the lack of effort and direction that actually makes sense? He's not a dumb man I don't think.

[JohnC]

8 hours ago, tom webster said:

This is a pretty significant hire for the business side of things.

The best strategy to improve the business side of the operation is having a serious team. 

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

So that's the plan? Just better marketing? 

Sometimes I think Pegula has already decided he will eventually sell the team and he's just extracting what value he can and waiting for that expansion money to roll in and when franchises hit the level he's decided it'll be gone. I mean is there another explanation for the lack of effort and direction that actually makes sense? He's not a dumb man I don't think.

In the oil and gas business he was astute. In the hockey business he is obtuse. A generation of failure and he still hasn't figured it out yet. 

[Flashsabre]

10 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

So that's the plan? Just better marketing? 

Sometimes I think Pegula has already decided he will eventually sell the team and he's just extracting what value he can and waiting for that expansion money to roll in and when franchises hit the level he's decided it'll be gone. I mean is there another explanation for the lack of effort and direction that actually makes sense? He's not a dumb man I don't think.

They’ll sell you the whole seat but you’ll only need the edge!!😁

[Thorny]

[dudacek]

I find it interesting that a narrative exists that Pegula will only hire from within for the hockey department when he clearly has no such qualms about the business side, or the football team.

I mean I certainly agree he made a knee-jerk reaction 5 years ago with Adams over his intense dissatisfaction with the NHL head office because of the highly recommended Botterill and Lafontaine.

Wonder how much of the Karmanos/Forton/Ruff/Appert/Ellis trend is Pegula and how much is actually Adams.

I suspect this is an area where they feed each other.

[Mango]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

So that's the plan? Just better marketing? 

Sometimes I think Pegula has already decided he will eventually sell the team and he's just extracting what value he can and waiting for that expansion money to roll in and when franchises hit the level he's decided it'll be gone. I mean is there another explanation for the lack of effort and direction that actually makes sense? He's not a dumb man I don't think.

Brandon Beane has mentioned a few times that Terry pressures him to go all in on the cap more than he's (BB) comfortable with.

My tinfoil hat says that Terry is pushing the Bills hard to win a SB in part so he can move on from the Sabres without the city hating him.

Think about the timing off selling the Sabres after that terrible Bengals playoff loss vs a few months after a SB parade.

If Terry doesn't win one with Josh and he sells (after ruining)the Sabres he'll be vilified for eternity. He desperately needs to bring a title to Buffalo.

[Pimlach]

5 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

It’s good stuff. Subtle! I appreciate it.

[Pimlach]

53 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I find it interesting that a narrative exists that Pegula will only hire from within for the hockey department when he clearly has no such qualms about the business side, or the football team.

I mean I certainly agree he made a knee-jerk reaction 5 years ago with Adams over his intense dissatisfaction with the NHL head office because of the highly recommended Botterill and Lafontaine.

Wonder how much of the Karmanos/Forton/Ruff/Appert/Ellis trend is Pegula and how much is actually Adams.

I suspect this is an area where they feed each other.

I think Covid spooked him.  I also think he likes to dabble on the sports side.  

But a problem he has is wanting the NHL to gift him access to top coaching and management talent, just like the NFL does. The NHL does not do that.  The NHL is rinky dinky compared to the NFL.  They don’t provide that service.  

He needs to do his own interviewing.  He needs to trust open and honest communication.  Then hire the best and let them go.   

[Brawndo]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I find it interesting that a narrative exists that Pegula will only hire from within for the hockey department when he clearly has no such qualms about the business side, or the football team.

I mean I certainly agree he made a knee-jerk reaction 5 years ago with Adams over his intense dissatisfaction with the NHL head office because of the highly recommended Botterill and Lafontaine.

Wonder how much of the Karmanos/Forton/Ruff/Appert/Ellis trend is Pegula and how much is actually Adams.

I suspect this is an area where they feed each other.

Karmanos-Adams 

Forton-Pegula 

Ruff-Pegula

Appert-Adams 

Ellis-Both 

[dudacek]

I see no sign Terry is not fully invested in the Sabres.

Honestly, I kinda picture him to be exactly the same as he was 10 years ago in terms of his interest, it’s just that he’s decided not to show it publicly because his experience is that gets him roasted.

I think he’s kinda like a Sabrespace poster in his passion and strong opinions and lack of genuine experience, except that he actually gets to make decisions.

He’s going to hang on to his prejudices just as hard, get capricious just as frequently, and he’s not giving up any sooner.

[dudacek]

25 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Karmanos-Adams 

Forton-Pegula 

Ruff-Pegula

Appert-Adams 

Ellis-Both 

So any pending internal shuffle is most likely to favour Ruff and/or Forton at the expense of Karmanos/Appert, pending what Ruff thinks? Because it seems like Ruff has got the most influence.

The org chart demands Karmanos move into the GM chair if Adams is moving up or over. So I’m thinking if Karmanos doesn’t get the gig, he’s not long for Buffalo and Ventura along with him.

Ideally, they tap a strong experienced voice from outside the organization to fill whatever chair is left open, and bring in at least 3 new people for the coaching staff.

I’m not convinced a Lindy-led redirect is going to solve anything, but the same braintrust in different chairs definitely won’t, even with Adams hands coming off the wheel.

Edited yesterday at 03:48 AM by dudacek

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I see no sign Terry is not fully invested in the Sabres.

Honestly, I kinda picture him to be exactly the same as he was 10 years ago in terms of his interest, it’s just that he’s decided not to show it publicly because his experience is that gets him roasted.

I think he’s kinda like a Sabrespace poster in his passion and strong opinions and lack of genuine experience, except that he actually gets to make decisions.

He’s going to hang on to his prejudices just as hard, get capricious just as frequently, and he’s not giving up any sooner.

https://puckpedia.com/team/buffalo-sabres

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You must be joking? We haven’t spent to the cap in 5 years. Surely financial investment is a key form of investment that must be considered 

Also the comp to sabrespace posters is insulting 

Edited yesterday at 04:41 AM by Thorner

[Thorny]

On another note: if there’s a wheel, one’s hands coming off it by definition matters 

The debate is whether the owner installed one 

I’ve seen enough from Adams to see his fingerprints all over it - and recognize how a shift in that regard may change fortunes 

[JP51]

18 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Significant experience in an Arena Renovation, namely the Target Center in Minneapolis 

That is a great piece of info... 

[dudacek]

10 hours ago, Thorner said:

https://puckpedia.com/team/buffalo-sabres

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You must be joking? We haven’t spent to the cap in 5 years. Surely financial investment is a key form of investment that must be considered 

Also the comp to sabrespace posters is insulting 

You're going to tell me that there aren't fully-invested people on here who have refused to spend a damn cent of their hard-earned money on these ***** losers? 😄

Edited 15 hours ago by dudacek

[Porous Five Hole]

Jake Vernon will end the drought.  

[Thorny]

8 minutes ago, dudacek said:

You're going to tell me that there aren't full-invested people on here who have refused to spend a damn cent of their hard-earned money on these ***** losers? 😄

lol check mate