Bylsma Relieved of Coaching Duties by the Kraken

[eman]

Dan Bylsma was let go by Seattle after only 1 season at the helm of the club. At least the Sabres gave him 2. Not surprised really. Even the Cup he won was off a Michel Therrien team he inherited. I still give credit to Therrien. Once Dan had full control of the Pens after the Cup win, they regressed.

[steveoath]

And Jbotts named GM. This should be interesting. 

[dudacek]

Wonder if Botterill learned anything during his time with the Sabres?

I mean besides that Bylsma was a ***** coach.

Personally preferred the failed visions of Adams and Murray to the complete lack of vision of Botterill, but I guess that’s like comparing dog turds.

[Brawndo]

4 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Wonder if Botterill learned anything during his time with the Sabres?

Do not work for Terry Pegula?

[Flashsabre]

Not impressed with Ron Francis. Thought bringing in JBotts as AGM was a mistake and both coaching hires, Hakstol and Byslma, were bad hires. And that Chandler Stephenson signing has bombed badly.

[thewookie1]

Botts, while a tad more NHL seasoned per se, is possibly even worse than Adams which is bonkers considering what we have now.

His disjointed approach to team building while trying to play moneyball with a magic 8 ball was a mind screw every year he was here. 

Murray saw players as cogs in a machine and never even thought about what would happen if some cogs were made of softer materials or were manufactured differently. His vision was a his target and nothing would stop him from going to it for better or for worse.

Adams is almost the complete opposite of Murray. He too has a vision but it is less clearly defined however it does exist in some way. Where he falls apart is his inability to make the moves needed to reach his goal and his reliance on young players to plug most holes.

Botts was a chameleon in front of a technicolor lava lamp, in which the vision he had for the team varied year to year and even month to month. He desired to make Eichel like Crosby the captain even though ROR was the heir apparent after Gionta retired. He traded ROR for “depth” and thrust Mitts into the 2C role after 1 10 game stint. He traded for Colin Miller but then gaffed at a 4th rounder to move Risto for Ehlers. Thus having 4 NHL RHDs who expected to play but on 3 could. So he then trades half their best defensive pair for a 4th and trades it for a 4th liner in Frolik. All the while Pominville returns, and in a stroke of luck plays pretty well for us only to be unceremoniously dumped for a random jag in Jimmy Vesey for a second time. At first he had a Pittsburgh model in mind and then seemed to abandon it somewhat when Sheary was ineffective and Pegula wanted Skinner signed.

[dudacek]

Botterill made two trades of consequence his entire stint (ROR, Montour) and one of those was forced on him by Terry.

He acquired Tage Thompson, which was incredibly sharp if, in fact he pursued him (some have said he did not and that was Armstrong’s call).

He overruled the existing scouts in his first draft and picked Mittelstadt over Necas.

He picked Dahlin in his 2nd draft.

And he chose Cozens over (I believe) Caufield and Zegras in his 3rd.

Finally, he traded relative peanuts for Skinner and then signed him to an exhorbitant contract, apparently over his better judgement.

That’s it. Everything else was bargain bin shopping and finger-crossing.

[DarthEbriate]

Personally, I hope he doesn't like how the board shakes out, so he trades the SEA 1st this season for EDM 1st next season. Classic JBott.

[PerreaultForever]

So Francis gets to fail upward and JBot gets the job. I wonder if this might give Terry a new idea. 

Disco Dan? Not a shock. What are they going to do with the female assistant? That could get awkward. 

[shrader]

1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:

Not impressed with Ron Francis. Thought bringing in JBotts as AGM was a mistake and both coaching hires, Hakstol and Byslma, were bad hires. And that Chandler Stephenson signing has bombed badly.

Francis was the GM for Carolina’s long drought. Who’d have thought that hiring him wasn’t going to work. They can always bring in Adams in a few years. 

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

Botterill made two trades of consequence his entire stint (ROR, Montour) and one of those was forced on him by Terry.

He acquired Tage Thompson, which was incredibly sharp if, in fact he pursued him (some have said he did not and that was Armstrong’s call).

He overruled the existing scouts in his first draft and picked Mittelstadt over Necas.

He picked Dahlin in his 2nd draft.

And he chose Cozens over (I believe) Caufield and Zegras in his 3rd.

Finally, he traded relative peanuts for Skinner and then signed him to an exhorbitant contract, apparently over his better judgement.

That’s it. Everything else was bargain bin shopping and finger-crossing.

ROR wasn’t traded due to Pegula, he was traded prior to July 1st however due to Pegula.

[TheAud]

48 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

What are they going to do with the female assistant? That could get awkward. 

[Porous Five Hole]

Didn’t Botts fire Bylsma in Buffalo? Not often you get to fire a guy twice. 

[Pimlach]

4 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

Botts, while a tad more NHL seasoned per se, is possibly even worse than Adams which is bonkers considering what we have now.

His disjointed approach to team building while trying to play moneyball with a magic 8 ball was a mind screw every year he was here. 

Murray saw players as cogs in a machine and never even thought about what would happen if some cogs were made of softer materials or were manufactured differently. His vision was a his target and nothing would stop him from going to it for better or for worse.

Adams is almost the complete opposite of Murray. He too has a vision but it is less clearly defined however it does exist in some way. Where he falls apart is his inability to make the moves needed to reach his goal and his reliance on young players to plug most holes.

Botts was a chameleon in front of a technicolor lava lamp, in which the vision he had for the team varied year to year and even month to month. He desired to make Eichel like Crosby the captain even though ROR was the heir apparent after Gionta retired. He traded ROR for “depth” and thrust Mitts into the 2C role after 1 10 game stint. He traded for Colin Miller but then gaffed at a 4th rounder to move Risto for Ehlers. Thus having 4 NHL RHDs who expected to play but on 3 could. So he then trades half their best defensive pair for a 4th and trades it for a 4th liner in Frolik. All the while Pominville returns, and in a stroke of luck plays pretty well for us only to be unceremoniously dumped for a random jag in Jimmy Vesey for a second time. At first he had a Pittsburgh model in mind and then seemed to abandon it somewhat when Sheary was ineffective and Pegula wanted Skinner signed.