Friedman believes changes are coming to Sabres Front Office; UPL Available?

[Broken Ankles]

14 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Cause he's still a young player who can make defensive gaffs and they are serious about winning. 3rd and 4th lines are where the young guys still learning should be. You're just not used to common sense real hockey teams 😉

 

True. However I watch enough NHL to know what I see more often than not by the Sabres is FUBAR.  It’s why you never see me advocate for Kulich or Benson in the top six.  

[Flashsabre]

So we hear something today? Atleast that they are about to meet. Give us Marty Wilford’s head on a platter at the very least😁

[JP51]

55 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

So we hear something today? Atleast that they are about to meet. Give us Marty Wilford’s head on a platter at the very least😁

LOL... this is like we were told to meet at Tim Hortons... we are all sitting there waiting come to find out we are at the wrong one... waiting... waiting ... for something that isnt gonna come... Funny thing is they know we are waiting and they know where we are... and they know we are just gonna sit there for no reason... and they are laughing... I think this is hysterical to them... Hey Kev, look at those dorks waiting for us... lol....  wanna get out for a quick 9 ? Absolutely, TP, it is what we are best at it's never too early to begin preparing for playoff time next year! Fore! 

[GoPuckYourself]

The fact that the GM & staff (minus Ruff) has failed 5 seasons in a row and there was not a single firing when the season ended is alarming. May not be surprising but definitely alarming. 

[Pimlach]

24 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

The fact that the GM & staff (minus Ruff) has failed 5 seasons in a row and there was not a single firing when the season ended is alarming. May not be surprising but definitely alarming. 

Were is the accountability talk this year?  Last year Adams blamed Granato, and he even had players repeating the mantra.  

This year is it  conditioning?  and what else?  better goaltending and/or better defense?  better special teams?  coming together sooner?   

Everything but the truth - the roster is not good enough, the coaching is not good enough, the experience and leadership is not there. 

Missing the playoffs hurts more than just lost revenues.  The team can't learn and grow together when they NEVER make the playoffs. 

Adams' deliberately slow plan, based on saving your payroll (salary cap) to sign only your own drafted players has become self defeating.   

 

[Believer]

31 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Everything but the truth - the roster is not good enough, the coaching is not good enough, the experience and leadership is not there. 

Truth.

[CallawaySabres]

3 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said:

The fact that the GM & staff (minus Ruff) has failed 5 seasons in a row and there was not a single firing when the season ended is alarming. May not be surprising but definitely alarming. 

It's just so sad to be a fan of this team. Lamoriello and Sullivan hired into this organization would not only have them in the playoffs next year, they would probably be a true contender in 2. 

[JustOutsideChicago]

3 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said:

The fact that the GM & staff (minus Ruff) has failed 5 seasons in a row and there was not a single firing when the season ended is alarming. May not be surprising but definitely alarming. 

Why am I getting so angry by the silence? Why do I care this much?

[Flashsabre]

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/five-teams-inquire-about-the-services-of-former-pittsburgh-penguins-head-coach-mike-sullivan-1.2297515
 

We can pretend the Sabres were one of the 5 teams.😁

[LGR4GM]

2 hours ago, CallawaySabres said:

It's just so sad to be a fan of this team. Lamoriello and Sullivan hired into this organization would not only have them in the playoffs next year, they would probably be a true contender in 2. 

Lamoriello... no. 

Sullivan, yes. 

[PerreaultForever]

This Bills draft is taking a really long time 🙂

 

[JP51]

2 hours ago, JustOutsideChicago said:

Why am I getting so angry by the silence? Why do I care this much?

Because you are in an abusive and toxic relationship... like us all... 

[Flashsabre]

Tocchet not returning to Vancouver. Things are starting to percolate around the league.

[pi2000]

fwiw my source says an announcement is imminent 👀

[Broken Ankles]

1 hour ago, pi2000 said:

fwiw my source says an announcement is imminent 👀

[Mr Peabody]

3 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

Tocchet not returning to Vancouver. Things are starting to percolate around the league.

Before they hired Rolston I was thinking they’d get Cooper out of Syracuse but quite sure TB promised him the HC job if he stayed.  Since then Tocchet has been the coach I’ve always felt could turn this team around.  
 

[Dr. Who]

14 years missing the playoffs, historical ineptitude, lost a whole generation of young hockey fans, and it would be shocking if they actually made a substantial change.

[PASabreFan]

5 hours ago, pi2000 said:

fwiw my source says an announcement is imminent 👀

Pope?

[Wyldnwoody44]

22 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Pope?

[GoPuckYourself]

8 hours ago, JustOutsideChicago said:

Why am I getting so angry by the silence? Why do I care this much?

Us fans are always the ones that get screwed.

[dudacek]

2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

14 years missing the playoffs, historical ineptitude, lost a whole generation of young hockey fans, and it would be shocking if they actually made a substantial change.

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

Edited 4 hours ago by dudacek

[Dr. Who]

22 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

That there is a Russian novel of sadness laced with madcap, absurdist black humor. There has been flux, the swing of mutability on the surface, with the constant despair in the depths and in the record of futility. 

 

[Thorny]

32 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I agree with bolded.

What's weird is the amount of substantial changes they have actually made over this 14-year debacle:

• Embark on an aggressive fantasy GM plan to push a middling team into contention
• Open the checkbook for the most high-profile free agents willing to sign.
• Fire the most successful coach in franchise history
• Embark on a deliberate two-year effort to be overtly terrible in an attempt to acquire a franchise player(s) and build with youth.
• Fire the most successful GM in franchise history
• Hire a beloved former captain and star to run the team, and a former cup-winning GM to advise him.
• Hire a beloved former coach to teach grit and passion.
• Hire a gunslinging super-scout to be GM
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters
• Trade away your all-star goalie and the face of the franchise
• Embark on a fast-track plan to flip your futures for a contending core, built around a size model
• Sign a name free agent scoring winger to a multi-year, big money deal
• Sign an older well-respected name free agent scoring winger to a smaller deal to be leader
• Make one of the biggest blockbuster multi-player trades in franchise history
• Trade away a first round draft pick for a new franchise goalie
• Open up your treasure chest of futures to trade for the biggest-name player on the trade market, sign him to a huge contract
• Draft a franchise centre, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Sign a high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Sign another bigger-name free agent scoring winger to a bigger multi-year, big money deal
• Fire your high-profile former Stanley Cup winning coach
• Fire your gunslinging GM
• Hire a touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization to be your GM
• Embark on a slow, methodical plan to build through bargain basement shopping, mobile defencemen, and a aversion to long-term contracts
• Hire a touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you to be your coach
• Draft a franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him captain
• Trade one of your biggest-name players for a big package of middling veterans and futures.
• Acquire a soon-to-be UFA one-way scoring winger sign him to the 2nd-biggest contract in franchise history after a great half-season
• Fire the touted up-and-comer who used to be a star player for you as your coach
• Let the "franchise" goalie you paid a first-rounder to acquire walk for free.
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your coach
• Fire the touted up-and-comer from a Stanley Cup winning organization as your GM, not because of slow progress, but because he wouldn't listen
• Hire a completely out-of-the-box choice as your GM because he used to play in the NHL and you know him and trust him.
• Embark on on a last-ditch plan of telling the out-of-the-box GM to give the out-of-the-box coach the players he wants in order to make your franchise centre captain stop complaining and asking to be traded.
• Sign yet another big-name free agent scoring winger, this time to a short-term contract with full trade protection.
• Fire your completely out-of-the box coach
• Embark on another sell-off aimed at rebuilding from with in with youth, and this time really mean it.
• Trade away the captain and pretty much all your key skaters for futures, or let them walk for free
• Let your goalie walk for nothing and continue what is now an annual tradition of starting the season with troubled or unproven players in net
• Draft another franchise defenceman, sign him to a huge contract and eventually name him...no wait, he's not captain yet.
• Stop spending to the cap
• Hire a long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Invest heavily in an analytics department led by one of the field's most touted minds
• Patiently wait for the kids to develop, and betting on their progress by signing some to long-term deals before they've fully earned them.
• Fire the long-time NHL assistant with a reputation for player development as your coach
• Re-hire the most-succcessful coach franchise history
• Start making a few changes to and around your wrong core.
• ????

The only thing that hasn't changed over the years — aside from the magic veteran winger band-aids — is the losing.

As much as it's a tragedy for us, it's also a true comedy, actually. 

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

They did that the last two years 

[PerreaultForever]

57 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Really, not making a substantial change when one is clearly needed might be the one thing they haven't tried. 🤣

That last line might in fact be Terry's thinking this time. Sad to say but that might be it. Five years and no improvement SHOULD result in firings but alas, it does not. It is making me lose interest in next season even before these playoffs are over, and that's a first. I usually only think like that after free agency. 

[Thorny]

and I thought my jokes were bad