Friedman believes changes are coming to Sabres Front Office; UPL Available?

[Brawndo]

 

[Brawndo]

 

Friedman does wonder if Adams will get a change in his job title 

[Thorny]

Oh my gosh please 

[ska-T Palmtown]

Either that or they comb this board for storylines 🤣 - sounds too good to be true.

[Thorny]

8 minutes ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

Either that or they comb this board for storylines 🤣 - sounds too good to be true.

They heard I was quitting if Adams was GM 

[spndnchz]

There’s programs for this. Search’s the whole web. Notifies you. You put the pieces together and build your own puzzle. I like him but I wouldn’t necessarily call it “journalism”

[GoPuckYourself]

Unless Adams new role is janitor it's still more of the same. 

[pi2000]

Everyone should be available after a season like that... not just UPL.

Just please for the love of god don't name KA POHO.

[JohnC]

Will there be changes in the upper hockey staff? I don't know.  What I can say is that there is no franchise in the league, other than our peculiarly run franchise, that wouldn't have made major changes to the top staff if they had the same the paltry record over a five year period. I hope that I'm wrong but I'm skeptical that there will be major changes i.e. altering KA's role with this woeful franchise. 

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, spndnchz said:

There’s programs for this. Search’s the whole web. Notifies you. You put the pieces together and build your own puzzle. I like him but I wouldn’t necessarily call it “journalism”

He's doing what we all are doing: speculating. 

[French Collection]

To borrow a line from comedian Henny Youngman, take my goalie, please.

[LGR4GM]

[Thorny]

2 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

Unless Adams new role is janitor it's still more of the same. 

I’ve lowered my bar a lot, but, even the acknowledgment Adams’ title *needs* to change because he’s simply unfit to be GM based on the results means something to me.

That’s attributing meaning to it that isn’t going to be outright stated, but I’d have a hard time believing removing some of the microscope on Adams wouldn’t be functional in said decision regardless, which, we can reasonably say, would be done as a reaction to their awareness of at least the perception of Adams (whether or not they share it), and, I suppose, their desire to have the GM position better represented in the future. 

it would be a crumb. But I’m pretty hungry 

[steveoath]

Adams as a “go between” for tpegs and the new, and better GM is what this sounds like. 

[GoPuckYourself]

13 minutes ago, Thorner said:

I’ve lowered my bar a lot, but, even the acknowledgment Adams’ title *needs* to change because he’s simply unfit to be GM based on the results means something to me.

That’s attributing meaning to it that isn’t going to be outright stated, but I’d have a hard time believing removing some of the microscope on Adams wouldn’t be functional in said decision regardless, which, we can reasonably say, would be done as a reaction to their awareness of at least the perception of Adams (whether or not they share it), and, I suppose, their desire to have the GM position better represented in the future. 

it would be a crumb. But I’m pretty hungry 

I get where you're coming from I just can't get behind anything where a guy who has failed at his job for 5 years is promoted and able to hand pick a person that he's not qualified to do. The sad part is that I enjoy coming on and bee itch ing about the Sabres more than I enjoy watching the games any longer. If Adams is still in the organization than Pegula truly doesn't care about the fans so why should I care about the Sabres? I'll watch here and there like I did at the end of this season but if this end of the season locker cleanout with the built in excuse that the Sabres came in out of shape is any indication of how it will begin next season then I want no part of it imo. 

Edited Saturday at 01:28 PM by GoPuckYourself

[bob_sauve28]

Oh goodie! A new title! Executive in charge of Executing Hockey Operations

 

New office, too? This sounds stupid, shifting deck chairs and all 

 

What is going to happen with the goaltending is a very serious question though. Teams are actually interested in UPL? I have my doubts but with the goaltending situations around the league being what they are, who knows? 

Levi and Reimer for next year? 

[DarthEbriate]

Darth Pegulas still needs the person who listens. That's still Adams. So whatever title you give it, unless the control of the staff/personnel, the roster, and finances are moved to a qualified non-Adams person, it's only more of the same. And if Pegula still wants EEE, the GM search will be "we talked to a bunch of people, but GM Karmanos is the guy for us. Look what he did with the Amerks" and they'll still be $10M under the cap next season with almost all the same assistant coaches, etc.

[Thorny]

2 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Darth Pegulas still needs the person who listens. That's still Adams. So whatever title you give it, unless the control of the staff/personnel, the roster, and finances are moved to a qualified non-Adams person, it's only more of the same. And if Pegula still wants EEE, the GM search will be "we talked to a bunch of people, but GM Karmanos is the guy for us. Look what he did with the Amerks" and they'll still be $10M under the cap next season with almost all the same assistant coaches, etc.

I’ve heard it could be a different person doing the “day to day” GM work (see: the job) - which is exactly where I’ve said Adams has been continually failing. The inability of Adams to navigate the roster into playoff contention *even given* handcuffs imposed by our (and many other) owners in a full 5 years suggest someone else deserves a shot at the “day to day” decisions that, yes, could be the difference between playoffs or not when the bar is that low.

the ones that will think the moves mean nothing at all will be those still clinging to the idea Pegula is literally in the office every day micromanaging. Which, as dudacek mentioned, is a narrative borne out of a different time period with a different regime.

Adams has had some rope, and if a new person is given the wheel for the 9-5, I’ll certainly take it. 

[Taro T]

Adams bumps up to PoHO or VPoHO and Bill Zito's right hand man (whomever that is) comes in as the new GM with a mandate to mold this team into the Swamp Cats image.  Great.

Adams bumps up to PoHO or VPoHO and Karmanos bumps up as the new GM with a mandate to make whatever changes are necessary to make this team a winner.  Cool.

Adams bumps up to PoHO or VPoHO and Forton bumps up as the new GM with a mandate to make whatever changes are necessary to make this team a winner.  Fack.

Hoping it's true that Adams won't be doing the hands on parts of the job.  But need to see a lot more of the details before I'm willing to say it's unequivocably a good thing.

[sabresouth]

ka needs a demotion not a title change. I like the janitor idea given above.

[DarthEbriate]

5 minutes ago, Thorner said:

I’ve heard it could be a different person doing the “day to day” GM work (see: the job) - which is exactly where I’ve said Adams has been continually failing. The inability of Adams to navigate the roster into playoff contention *even given* handcuffs imposed by our (and many other) owners in a full 5 years suggest someone else deserves a shot at the “day to day” decisions that, yes, could be the difference between playoffs or not when the bar is that low.

the ones that will think the moves mean nothing at all will be those still clinging to the idea Pegula is literally in the office every day micromanaging. Which, as dudacek mentioned, is a narrative borne out of a different time period with a different regime.

Adams has had some rope, and if a new person is given the wheel for the 9-5, I’ll certainly take it. 

For the record: I would, too.

I just have the feeling that whomever they bring in to be the GM will end either be part of the same committee we've had, just with different titles, or they'll end up walking like Lafontaine once they realize that they don't really have the power to break the Adams/Pegulas culture. Once all the existing contracts for coaches/staff are up, then, maybe the franchise has a shot at a reset.

[7+6=13]

55 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Everyone should be available after a season like that... not just UPL.

Just please for the love of god don't name KA POHO.

No, It'll be KO.

[French Collection]

36 minutes ago, steveoath said:

Adams as a “go between” for tpegs and the new, and better GM is what this sounds like. 

A promotion in name but a demotion in responsibility.

I have seen people get promoted from trades jobs into management positions because they were lousy with tools in their hands and were more of a hindrance to the crews than anything else. TP might finally realize that KA doesn’t have the skills to be a GM but hey, he listens well and makes him feel good. Besides, he would have to pay him anyway.

[Archie Lee]

Friedman said that he thinks "...at the very least some of the staff around [Adams] will be out and [Adams] will change it".  He then asks something a bit strange.  He asks "...does that mean Adams changes his title at all, I don't know, we'll hear from him [today]?".  That was odd phrasing.  Why or how would Adams change his own title?  Did Friedman misspeak and mean that he wonders if "Pegula will change Adams's title"? 

I'm not sure it's worth trying to sort out what Friedman might have some inside information on vs. what he is speculating on. I think a lot of the national coverage and speculation around the Sabres assumes that on some level the Sabres function like a normal major league franchise, when those of us who follow the team more closely know that is largely not the case. I mean, from the national media perspective, someone has to be fired, right?  It could just be that Friedman is making that assumption, because what organization in this situation wouldn't make some changes to the front office?

To me, anything less than there being a change in GM (regardless of what Adams's title ends up being), is just Pegula and Adams finding this year's scapegoat. 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Archie Lee said:

Friedman said that he thinks "...at the very least some of the staff around [Adams] will be out and [Adams] will change it".  He then asks something a bit strange.  He asks "...does that mean Adams changes his title at all, I don't know, we'll hear from him [today]?".  That was odd phrasing.  Why or how would Adams change his own title?  Did Friedman misspeak and mean that he wonders if "Pegula will change Adams's title"? 

I'm not sure it's worth trying to sort out what Friedman might have some inside information on vs. what he is speculating on. I think a lot of the national coverage and speculation around the Sabres assumes that on some level the Sabres function like a normal major league franchise, when those of us who follow the team more closely know that is largely not the case. I mean, from the national media perspective, someone has to be fired, right?  It could just be that Friedman is making that assumption, because what organization in this situation wouldn't make some changes to the front office?

To me, anything less than there being a change in GM (regardless of what Adams's title ends up being), is just Pegula and Adams finding this year's scapegoat. 

This year's scapegoat is "conditioning"