Ruff and Adams end-of-season press conference: Saturday, April 19, 4:30pm

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

So Van has Quinn Hughes and acquires Hronek to partner with him to insure a dynamic pair.  Colorado acquires Devon Toews to partner with Makar to have a dynamic pair.  We on the other hand saddle Dahlin with Byram, Samuelsson, Power and other defensively challenged players and people here are ok with not giving Dahlin the right partner to maximize his potential.  It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.  

Dahlin and Power need legit partners next season!  Power needs a mentor and a smart partner who can help him play 2 way hockey (Orlov?).  Dahlin needs good skating defensively sound partner who can free him up to dominate offensively.  

I haven't quite figured out why you hate Byram so much, but the facts speak for themselves.

Among all NHL pairs that played 500 minutes together this season, Byram/Dahlin was the most effective: 70% GF%

I mean what more do you want? Only 6 other pairs topped 60%.

Toews Makar was 61%

Hughes/Hronek was 50.8%

https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm

Byram has his flaws and certainly isn't special, and I agree those numbers are mostly on Dahlin. But Byram also certainly isn't the pile of dung you continually insist he is. And he's clearly not dragging Dahlin down.

He got the job of supporting the elite guy done. Better than Toews, better than Hronek, better than anybody.

It just baffles the hell out of me because you're a smart guy. I don't know how you can ignore it.

Edited Tuesday at 10:37 PM by dudacek

[Taro T]

4 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I haven't quite figured out why you hate Byram so much, but the facts speak for themselves.

Among all NHL pairs that played 500 minutes together this season, Byram/Dahlin was the most effective: 70% GF%

Toews Makar was 61%

Hughes/Hronek was 50.8%

https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm

I mean Byram has his flaws and certainly isn't special, and I agree those numbers are mostly on Dahlin. But Byram also certainly isn't the pile of dung you continually insist he is. And he's clearly not dragging Dahlin down.

He got the job of supporting the elite guy done. Better than Toews, better than Hronek, better than anybody.

It just baffles the hell out of me because you're a smart guy. I don't know how you can ignore it.

Byram replaced Mittelstadt.  Personally, expected to take that trade harder than he did, but it is what it is.  😉 

[GASabresIUFAN]

I’ve said a million times that I’d keep and re-sign Byram and trade Power. I think Byram is as good offensively as Power and plays physically.  I also think he’d be cheaper to sign.  However both Power and Byram are inept defensively.  

The numbers y’all mention are on Dahlin alone and prove my point.  His numbers are great with anyone.  Take that partner away from Raz and their numbers plummet as we saw with Samuelson away from Dahlin and Byram away for Dahlin.  

My whole plan this summer if I were GM would be to trade Clifton, buyout Samuelsson and trade Power, then acquire two smart solid defensive or all around D to partner with Dahlin and Byram with JBD as the anchor on the third pair.   I mentioned Orlov as one example.  I like Gavikov as well.  

My plan saves considerable cap and improves the defense.  

 

 

[thewookie1]

For me trading Power would just be a disaster waiting to happen and I’m not fond of giving 7+ mil to a guy who has to play with Dahlin to do well.

[oddoublee]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I’ve said a million times that I’d keep and re-sign Byram and trade Power. I think Byram is as good offensively as Power and plays physically.  I also think he’d be cheaper to sign.  However both Power and Byram are inept defensively.  

The numbers y’all mention are on Dahlin alone and prove my point.  His numbers are great with anyone.  Take that partner away from Raz and their numbers plummet as we saw with Samuelson away from Dahlin and Byram away for Dahlin.  

My whole plan this summer if I were GM would be to trade Clifton, buyout Samuelsson and trade Power, then acquire two smart solid defensive or all around D to partner with Dahlin and Byram with JBD as the anchor on the third pair.   I mentioned Orlov as one example.  I like Gavikov as well.  

My plan saves considerable cap and improves the defense.  

 

 

Not saying your proposal is what I would do exactly...but your style of thinking is what is needed. Major shakeup moves. D needs a reset. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

For me trading Power would just be a disaster waiting to happen and I’m not fond of giving 7+ mil to a guy who has to play with Dahlin to do well.

Aren't we paying Power 8+ and his metrics are terrible with anyone but Dahlin.

[Jorcus]

Some random comments about the locker cleanout pressers last week.

The newer players seemed much more open, upbeat, and analytical about the season than many of the existing Sabres. I guess the team has not beat it out of them yet. Zucker, Byram, and McCloud all gave open dialog. Tuch and Thompson were some what depressed but made insightful comments. You never really get much out of Dahlin. Power was miserable just did not want  to answer questions. Quinn was not a lot better. Peterka spent most of the interview hydrating himself and watching the clock for a flight out of town. Greenway is always spacey in interviews, not a whole lot to say. Sammy was pretty dour but at least he was reflective about his season and where he was during certain periods of it. 

Maybe I am reading too much into this but I wonder if the Byram trade was as much about offloading Mitts than wanting Byram. I could see that they might not have wanted to pay Casey the money it was going to take to keep him around so when shopping the Byram trade was the best value they came up with. Well they put off the problem until this year and I just think push come to shove if Adams has to chose between Byram and Power he going to choose Power.  Another thing that struck me is that they still think Ryan Johnson is the best defensive prospect they have in Rochester, or at least the most NHL ready. The Rochester coaches talk that way as well so maybe he is. The problem is he is just another version of a mobile puck moving defenseman who probably is going to have trouble clearing the front of the net. So what are we going to do with him? I hope they don't see him as a replacement for Byram or Power. 

 

  

[PASabreFan]

It's hard to believe it's been one week.

[bob_sauve28]

26 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

  Another thing that struck me is that they still think Ryan Johnson is the best defensive prospect they have in Rochester, or at least the most NHL ready. The Rochester coaches talk that way as well so maybe he is. The problem is he is just another version of a mobile puck moving defenseman who probably is going to have trouble clearing the front of the net. So what are we going to do with him? I hope they don't see him as a replacement for Byram or Power. 

 

  

Looking at what Florida did in going out and trading for the great Seth Jones makes me wish we could swing trades like that. He's the type of veterans defenseman any team could use. Hoping KA or whoever is in charge gets a veteran d-man who is good in here to round out the d-core 

[Thorny]

5 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

It's hard to believe it's been one week.

IT’S BEEN 

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