GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Tampa Bay Lightning, Sunday 4/13, 6pm- MSG and ESPN+

[JP51]

30 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

The Sabres are 3 to 4 players away from a playoff team, plus a coaching staff.  

I dont disagree... as long as the 3-4 equal getting rid of 3-4 that quite honestly detract from value.  The problem is who are those 3-4, where do they come from, and are we trading away players that are part of the solution to get them...  I would also add they are 1 GM with a proper vision and one owner who is willing to raise the level of expectations and organizational support to that of a professional franchise looking to compete for Championships. 

[Pimlach]

7 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I dont disagree... as long as the 3-4 equal getting rid of 3-4 that quite honestly detract from value.  The problem is who are those 3-4, where do they come from, and are we trading away players that are part of the solution to get them...  I would also add they are 1 GM with a proper vision and one owner who is willing to raise the level of expectations and organizational support to that of a professional franchise looking to compete for Championships. 

Move on from Muel, Quinn, UPL, and one of Power/Byram.    Kozak makes Krebs tradeable too.  

[Thorner]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

The owner desired a sycophantic weakling who would go along with what his new course for this franchise. 

Far less brash than me, but somehow cutting far more deep lol 

2 hours ago, JP51 said:

To add to this... Pegula is Peter. 

No he’s the Ben Reilly of owners 

[JP51]

54 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Move on from Muel, Quinn, UPL, and one of Power/Byram.    Kozak makes Krebs tradeable too.  

Those are the exact ones I would look at... also upgrade from Bryson and take a serious look at Lafferty and Malenstyn like the concept... but not sure we are better with them...  as far as Kozak, I like this kid... I would look to put him in as a Lafferty or a Malenstyn... albiet not as physical...  I love Greenway, we just signed him... but if he is gonna be out 40 games a year... where are we going there...  

[Stoner]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Move on from Muel, Quinn, UPL, and one of Power/Byram.    Kozak makes Krebs tradeable too.  

Nah. What's the point of moving on from your worst players? Move on from the best, who've gotten you to Nowhere Street time and again. Trade while their value is high and have a brand new vibe and core. You might miss again, but it wouldn't be from a lack of trying.

Why should I care if Tuch, Dahlin, Thompson etc. never darken the doorway of that lockerroom again?

I honestly despise their faces for what they represent.

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, Stoner said:

Nah. What's the point of moving on from your worst players? Move on from the best, who've gotten you to Nowhere Street time and again. Trade while their value is high and have a brand new vibe and core. You might miss again, but it wouldn't be from a lack of trying.

Why should I care if Tuch, Dahlin, Thompson etc. never darken the doorway of that lockerroom again?

I honestly despise their faces for what they represent.

Well this is a somewhat contrarian view.  Allow an idiot like Adams trade the best 3 players on the team, what could go wrong?   Thinking of Eichel and Reinhart right now.   Did you care when they darkened the doorway of the lockeroom?  

First you get rid of Adams.   Let another hopefully better GM package your least productive, redundant, and non-fitting players for better players that fill needs.  Package with picks and prospects if needed.   

Good GMs do it everyday.  

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, JP51 said:

I dont disagree... as long as the 3-4 equal getting rid of 3-4 that quite honestly detract from value.  The problem is who are those 3-4, where do they come from, and are we trading away players that are part of the solution to get them...  I would also add they are 1 GM with a proper vision and one owner who is willing to raise the level of expectations and organizational support to that of a professional franchise looking to compete for Championships. 

Did I say Stanley Cup?  no - I mean Stanley playoff Cusp.  

Edited Monday at 06:51 PM by Pimlach

[Stoner]

5 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Well this is a somewhat contrarian view.  Allow an idiot like Adams trade the best 3 players on the team, what could go wrong?   Thinking of Eichel and Reinhart right now.   Did you care when they darkened the doorway of the lockeroom?  

First you get rid of Adams.   Let another hopefully better GM package your least productive, redundant, and non-fitting players for better players that fill needs.  Package with picks and prospects if needed.   

Good GMs do it everyday.  

That's just tinkering at the margins. Of course I want a good GM leading the rebuild.

It's my prerogative as a fan to want fresh meat. It's fun. Sabres hockey, meanwhile, is a peculiar form of Groundhog Day torture.

[PerreaultForever]

9 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Dahlin you keep. 

Adams loves Power and Byram.  One of them should be moved though.  

Muel can go, but he is probably not going to be moved because of his salary, and if he does we will have to take a someone else's bad salary (see Norris for Cozens). 

Clifton has a year left and then he will run, not walk, to free agency.  

Joker was moved for JDB.   That is a Adams kind of deal, it doesn't move the needle. 

Bryson re-signed.  Ugh.  

 

No argument BUT bodies have to come in rather than prioritize moving bodies out of we will end up with a complete lack of D like JBot inherited from Murray. So if we move Samuelsson and/or Byram who comes in? That's the question. 

I would much rather end up with a solid D that Samuelsson has trouble cracking the top 6 than creating more holes on the D that get filled with a Bryson. 

I still say use Norris as a primary trade chip to get a top 4 D man. After you do that you can look at moving on from Samuelsson etc. 

[Stoner]