GDT: Sabres @ Washington Capitals 3/30/25 3:00 PM ET; MSG/MNMT, ESPN+

[Crusader1969]

1 minute ago, North Buffalo said:

If necessary keep Muel... Clifton 7th man and the above isnt horrible... yeh Bryson just isnt big enough... still would love it if Adams traded 1st rounder for an established D man and signed Ekblad...

No issues, especially if you are trading a forward or Samuelsson 

[Thorner]

Just now, Crusader1969 said:

2 goalies , 3D and 1 F 

id change 4D if I could even 

So we are up to 20% rolled over 

Yup Adams will definitely add more good goalies this summer than he has in his entire tenure in Buffalo so far 

Definitely banking on him turning over the position 

[GoPuckYourself]

Nobody wins more meaningless hockey games than this team.

[Big Guava]

11 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Because the team we lost to is also bad and is “Philly in a nutshell”. We lose to the teams that also play good when the games don’t matter 

the Sabres aren’t getting up for anyone. They get played down to 

They are easily explainable 

 

Bad luck, run it back. Don’t delve further into any other statistical category that easily explains what’s happening 

They get bad goaltending and they play bad defense. It's equal parts of both.  Their goalies let in at least 1-2 goals a game that aren't NHL quality goals. See UPL's first goal yesterday.

Regardless, it's still hard to score that much and not win more games.

 

[Crusader1969]

Just now, Thorner said:

Yup Adams will definitely add more good goalies this summer than he has in his entire tenure in Buffalo so far 

Definitely banking on him turning over the position 

Gonna be difficult with UPLs contract 

Hope Adams has learnt not to pay guys based on 1 year.    Worked out for Tage but all the others went south fast 

[North Buffalo]

1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said:

No issues, especially if you are trading a forward or Samuelsson 

Im not sure you trade a forward... Bryson and Clifton are deal sweeteners... current forwards can score... D is the problem and goaltending

[Thorner]

Just now, Crusader1969 said:

Gonna be difficult with UPLs contract 

Hope Adams has learnt not to pay guys based on 1 year.    Worked out for Tage but all the others went south fast 

Yes so we will turn over the goalies but it’s going to be difficult so don’t expect it 

just trying to keep up 

[Crusader1969]

Just now, North Buffalo said:

Im not sure you trade a forward... Bryson and Clifton are deal sweeteners... current forwards can score... D is the problem and goaltending

100 % agree.  The forwards are not the issue any longer    But you have so many - including an NHL ready Rosen (and maybe Kozak?) that you can deal one of it brings you the dman you desperately need 

1 minute ago, Thorner said:

Yes so we will turn over the goalies but it’s going to be difficult so don’t expect it 

just trying to keep up 

Unfortunately I'm expecting Samuelsson, Bryson and Clifton all to be on the opening night roster with UPL the starting goalie 

[Sidc3000]

2 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

Unfortunately I'm expecting Samuelsson, Bryson and Clifton all to be on the opening night roster with UPL the starting goalie 

You’re not wrong.  Adams is rolling it back and we just need to pray that they finally get it.  I’m not holding my breath

Edited Sunday at 10:07 PM by Sidc3000

[Thorner]

8 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

100 % agree.  The forwards are not the issue any longer    But you have so many - including an NHL ready Rosen (and maybe Kozak?) that you can deal one of it brings you the dman you desperately need 

Unfortunately I'm expecting Samuelsson, Bryson and Clifton all to be on the opening night roster with UPL the starting goalie 

Then what are you expecting? 

How are you formulating these thoughts? 

We are in 28th but the forwards are “no longer the issue” 

We did it 

Cant upgrade D and g, you say 

Edited Sunday at 10:13 PM by Thorner

[Thorner]

So everything but one guy on the roster is ok now, we’ve built a good 96% of a roster, it’s just not reflected in finishing 28th. 

like that 4% will account for the bump from 28th to playoffs but the 96% that holds us down at the bottom will affect us less than the 4%

but we can’t upgrade the 4% either 

so actually much of the roster is no longer an issue, but we can’t fix the exceptionally small part that is, and even though most of the team is set we can’t get beyond 28th

do I have that? 

Edited Sunday at 10:13 PM by Thorner

[mjd1001]

8 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

100 % agree.  The forwards are not the issue any longer    But you have so many - including an NHL ready Rosen (and maybe Kozak?) that you can deal one of it brings you the dman you desperately need 

Unfortunately I'm expecting Samuelsson, Bryson and Clifton all to be on the opening night roster with UPL the starting goalie 

Quinn is now scoring so that is good, but even the last few games his 'overall' game, getting back into the D-zone, getting to and controlling loose pucks, needs a LOT of work.

The entire 4th line has been and keeps on being a lot worse than it needs to be.

As far as the forwards go, I'm personally still only really happy with Tuch, McLeod and Tage. 

Peterka is decent, but has too many lapses. Zucker and Greenway can't seem to play enough games in a row. Krebs has been a pleasant surprise for me, but that isn't much because it was coming off a low level.  I like Bensons effort, but I think he isn't quite as great as many think. Kulich needs to show me what he is doing for more time.

So the forwards are in decent shape, but I wouldn't say we can be confident yet that they are not an issue at all.

[Crusader1969]

12 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Then what are you expecting? 

How are you formulating these thoughts? 

We are in 28th but the forwards are “no longer the issue” 

We did it 

Cant upgrade D and g, you say 

2 different thoughts. One is what I think they should do and the other is what I think Adams will do 

Do you think Adams is going to do major roster reconstruction this summer ?

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Quinn is now scoring so that is good, but even the last few games his 'overall' game, getting back into the D-zone, getting to and controlling loose pucks, needs a LOT of work.

The entire 4th line has been and keeps on being a lot worse than it needs to be.

As far as the forwards go, I'm personally still only really happy with Tuch, McLeod and Tage. 

Peterka is decent, but has too many lapses. Zucker and Greenway can't seem to play enough games in a row. Krebs has been a pleasant surprise for me, but that isn't much because it was coming off a low level.  I like Bensons effort, but I think he isn't quite as great as many think. Kulich needs to show me what he is doing for more time.

So the forwards are in decent shape, but I wouldn't say we can be confident yet that they are not an issue at all.

Benson needs work for sure. I'd fully agree he's got things to improve. 

[Thorner]

2 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

2 different thoughts. One is what I think they should do and the other is what I think Adams will do 

Do you think Adams is going to do major roster reconstruction this summer ?

Not my problem. Won’t be something I’ll be discussing in 9 games time if he’s here 

Regardless, my point stands. You are saying most of the roster isn’t the issue anymore and I totally disagree

when you are a bottom team, the inverse is true 

That’s team sports 

[Sidc3000]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Benson needs work for sure. I'd fully agree he's got things to improve. 

Like not taking penalties 

[LGR4GM]

Jack Quinn, 3g, 3a last 2 games. He needs a strong offseason, some more confidence, and maturity. 

2 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:

Like not taking penalties 

Nah. He's making up for power. I'd rather Benson maintain his style of play. 

[North Buffalo]

Totally forgot about Greenway... but with young guys improving... Greenway healthy is good depth and physical change of pace... guess you could trade a forward if return D is the right player... Use our first rounder this year as currency too unless its one of the big physical first rounders and consider trading one of the young guys in the AHL 

[Thorner]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Jack Quinn, 3g, 3a last 2 games. He needs a strong offseason, some more confidence, and maturity. 

Nah. He's making up for power. I'd rather Benson maintain his style of play. 

We cannot block him

[Sidc3000]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Nah. He's making up for power. I'd rather Benson maintain his style of play. 

I like how he plays but his power won’t come for another 5 years. That’s the problem with starting such a young player. By time he starts his peak, he very well may be off this team or out of the league. 

[LGR4GM]

33 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:

I like how he plays but his power won’t come for another 5 years. That’s the problem with starting such a young player. By time he starts his peak, he very well may be off this team or out of the league. 

He's making up for Owen Power.

Also, Benson isn't going to be out the league anytime soon. 

[Sidc3000]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

He's making up for Owen Power.

Also, Benson isn't going to be out the league anytime soon. 

I’m sure he won’t but we really won’t know either way for several more years and I thought you meant he was taking penalties because he didn’t have the power against full grown adult men… which is true

Edited Sunday at 11:18 PM by Sidc3000

[JohnC]

54 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Quinn is now scoring so that is good, but even the last few games his 'overall' game, getting back into the D-zone, getting to and controlling loose pucks, needs a LOT of work.

The entire 4th line has been and keeps on being a lot worse than it needs to be.

As far as the forwards go, I'm personally still only really happy with Tuch, McLeod and Tage. 

Peterka is decent, but has too many lapses. Zucker and Greenway can't seem to play enough games in a row. Krebs has been a pleasant surprise for me, but that isn't much because it was coming off a low level.  I like Bensons effort, but I think he isn't quite as great as many think. Kulich needs to show me what he is doing for more time.

So the forwards are in decent shape, but I wouldn't say we can be confident yet that they are not an issue at all.

I can't comment on the game because I didn't watch it. However, I did listen to part of the game on the car radio with the Washington announcers making the comment that this team is young and talented and should be better than what their record is. Both commentators made the same point that this team is too young and needs more veterans on the team to make the other players (young players) more accountable in their play. As others have made the same glaring point, that it is the defensive side of the game, that includes the forwards, where this team is deficient. 

In your post you singled out Tuch, McLeod and Tage for their play. It's not surprising that all three are experienced. We need another two capable veterans add to the forward lines and at least another defensive blueliner added to the mix. 

Our GM has added talent without adequately getting the mixture right. And it has been plaguing this team since he started his rebuild five years ago. It seems what is obvious to all is not obvious to him. 

[DarthEbriate]

49 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:

I like how he plays but his power won’t come for another 5 years. That’s the problem with starting such a young player. By time he starts his peak, he very well may be off this team or out of the league. 

Possibly off the team or out of the league if he's injured. But, if he's still a Sabre, my guess is that when Benson turns 25, he'll have already surpassed Reinhart on Buffalo's all-time scoring list and will be closing in on Eichel.

[PromoTheRobot]

5 hours ago, Mango said:

Very curious to see how the team bounces back after their HC just told the public that they disrespected the entire game of hockey.

 

Pretty well, I'd say.