John Tortorella fired by Flyers

[LGR4GM]

 

[JohnC]

His tough guy act has a short lifespan. Anyone who thinks that he would be the type of coach that the Sabres need is way off the mark. 

[Pimlach]

Torts woke up, saw his team just one point ahead of Buffalo and that was that (Sabres with 3 games in hand).  

Briere decide to move on now, with 9 games left. 

I am betting Briere's exhaustive coach search has more than one candidate.  

[That Aud Smell]

Briere and Drury.

Not killing it in NHL front offices, eh?

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

His tough guy act has a short lifespan. Anyone who thinks that he would be the type of coach that the Sabres need is way off the mark. 

Short life span?   He coached at Philly for 3 years, that is about the average life span for Terry Pegula coaches.  

Let's not forget that Torts strung together 7 years at Tampa, 5 years at NYR, 6 years at CBJ.    He took on a lot of rebuilds too.  

770 wins

Two time Coach of the Year

One Stanley Cup 

You don't like him, ok.  But you can't rewrite history.  

The only thing I can agree with is that he could never work for Terry.  That would be impossible, Torts says way too many bad words.  

2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

Briere and Drury.

Not killing it in NHL front offices, eh?

Briere inherited Torts.   This was inevitable.  

Drury seems to be struggling after a fast start.  

Edited Thursday at 04:25 PM by Pimlach

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Short life span?   He coached at Philly for 3 years, that is about the average life span for Terry Pegula coaches.  

Let's not forget that Torts strung together 6 years at Tampa, 5 years at NYR, 6 years at CBJ.    He took on a lot of rebuilds too.  

770 wins

Two time Coach of the Year

One Stanley Cup 

You don't like him, ok.  But you can't rewrite history.  

The only thing I can agree with is that he could never work for Terry.  That would be impossible, Torts says way too many bad words.  

Briere inherited Torts.   This was inevitable.  

Drury seems to be struggling after a fast start.  

That is the average lifespan of just about all coaches and all franchises. Terry and the media convinced everyone that Terry is some special unicorn who fires coaches too often when in reality, he's fairly average in that regards. 

[JP51]

44 minutes ago, JohnC said:

His tough guy act has a short lifespan. Anyone who thinks that he would be the type of coach that the Sabres need is way off the mark. 

maybe 15 or 20 years ago... not now... 

[Archie Lee]

I always wondered why Muckler picked Nolan over Tortorella to coach the Sabres back in the day. 

Torts is certainly a guy who did it his way.

With the Jarmo talk the past couple of days, I hope we don’t get a Jarmo/Torts reunion in Buffalo. 

[Night Train]

 Sabres one of 3 NHL teams not to fire Torts as HC. 

[kas23]

17 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I always wondered why Muckler picked Nolan over Tortorella to coach the Sabres back in the day. 

Torts is certainly a guy who did it his way.

With the Jarmo talk the past couple of days, I hope we don’t get a Jarmo/Torts reunion in Buffalo. 

What Jarmo talk?

[dudacek]

10 minutes ago, kas23 said:

What Jarmo talk?

Was posted somewhere the Sabres are one of just 3 franchises he follows on social media, the others being the Jackets and their farm team.

[Pimlach]

40 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

That is the average lifespan of just about all coaches and all franchises. Terry and the media convinced everyone that Terry is some special unicorn who fires coaches too often when in reality, he's fairly average in that regards. 

True - 3 years is about average, unless you are winning or improving the team in some way.  It looks like Torts did all he could in Philly, time to move on.  

Torts has 3 long tenures in his career.  I looked at his head coaching record and its Tampa (7 years), NYR (5 years), Van (1 year), CBJ (6 years), Philly (3 years).   He tended to stick around.  

I will agree that today he is old school and probably "past his prime".  He was old school even when he was in his prime.  But he was not a journeyman drifter that got fired quickly.  

[mjd1001]

28 minutes ago, Night Train said:

 Sabres one of 3 NHL teams not to fire Torts as HC. 

Well, he did coach the Amerks, so was he fired from that job by the Sabres "organization" at the end of his tenure there?  Or maybe he quit and took another job. it was a while ago.

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

Heard of em. Hire Torts.

[Drag0nDan]

52 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Short life span?   He coached at Philly for 3 years, that is about the average life span for Terry Pegula coaches.  

Let's not forget that Torts strung together 6 years at Tampa, 5 years at NYR, 6 years at CBJ.    He took on a lot of rebuilds too.  

770 wins

Two time Coach of the Year

One Stanley Cup 

You don't like him, ok.  But you can't rewrite history.  

The only thing I can agree with is that he could never work for Terry.  That would be impossible, Torts says way too many bad words.  

Briere inherited Torts.   This was inevitable.  

Drury seems to be struggling after a fast start.  

They're definitely teetering in a tough spot, they're like the same team they were last year when they looked really good so its hard to want to change "too" much.  But Lafreniere is getting a huge raise, as is shesterkin, even borgen is getting a raise - then you have Miller and Cuylle as RFA's and not a lot of cap room.  Interested to see how they manuever this mess with NMC's on panarin, mika and JT miller.  

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

Considering the lack of quality forwards, an AHL defense and Friday night beer league goaltending Torts did a pretty decent job in Philly.

[DarthEbriate]

I wonder if the Phlyers get a temporary bump in play with an interim coach. A 3-game winning streak could easily drop them out of the top 5 draft slots at this stage in the season.

[OverPowerYou]

1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:

Briere and Drury.

Not killing it in NHL front offices, eh?

They are a part of the Buffalo curse.

 

Only former players on the team after 2015 are allowed to win

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Short life span?   He coached at Philly for 3 years, that is about the average life span for Terry Pegula coaches.  

Let's not forget that Torts strung together 6 years at Tampa, 5 years at NYR, 6 years at CBJ.    He took on a lot of rebuilds too.  

770 wins

Two time Coach of the Year

One Stanley Cup 

You don't like him, ok.  But you can't rewrite history.  

The only thing I can agree with is that he could never work for Terry.  That would be impossible, Torts says way too many bad words.  

Briere inherited Torts.   This was inevitable.  

Drury seems to be struggling after a fast start.  

If you are enamored with him, that’s fine. His  authoritarian coaching style represents the past. If he was being considered for a Buffalo HC job (which he is not) it would be foolishness taken to an insane level.

[Flashsabre]

The timing is odd with 9 games to go but I guess it had run its course.

[Pimlach]

37 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you are enamored with him, that’s fine. His  authoritarian coaching style represents the past. If he was being considered for a Buffalo HC job (which he is not) it would be foolishness taken to an insane level.

I am not enamored with him.  I am judging him on his record.  

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

I am not enamored with him.  I am judging him on his record.  

I have not criticized his record. My point about him is that his iron fist style of coaching goes back to an era of the past and is unsuitable for today. I also find his tough guy act behind the podium to be tiresome. 

[That Aud Smell]

5 minutes ago, OverPowerYou said:

They are a part of the Buffalo curse.

 

Only former players on the team after 2015 are allowed to win

Lol - how's Grier doing?

[matter2003]

7 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

Briere and Drury.

Not killing it in NHL front offices, eh?

the list of really good players that make great GM's is pretty short.

Yzerman, Sakic, Doug Wilson, Serge Savard and Bobby Clarke are about it.

[LGR4GM]

22 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

the list of really good players that make great GM's is pretty short.

Yzerman, Sakic, Doug Wilson, Serge Savard and Bobby Clarke are about it.

Steve Yzerman? Detroit has been ***** for 8yrs under him.