GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Winnipeg, yes Winnipeg 3/23/25 TSN3, MSG-B 3PM Eastern

[bob_sauve28]

Did Greenway play much after taking that shot? 

[SwampD]

2 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Did Greenway play much after taking that shot? 

no

[JohnC]

47 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

No hair on his chest. Still a boy. 😃

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

Is that you in your girls night out outfit? 

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, Thorner said:

lets gooooooo

Hostile environment 

Has anyone told you that you look like Ryan Miller?

[Pimlach]

50 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Congrats on the win.

We were out-goalied by a country mile.

The importance of goaltending was on display tonight.  

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

High danger scoring chances:

Jets 13

Sabres 2

Thanks Comrie!!

Thank Reimer.  

[HOUSE]

10 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Eric Comrie revenge game?

[PerreaultForever]

lol, I guess that game will help pad the stats for shot percentages and all that stuff. Sometimes you catch them napping and the goalie defies the odds. 

We have these late every season. Means nothing. 

Fun night for Kozak though. That was nice. 

[thewookie1]

17 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

lol, I guess that game will help pad the stats for shot percentages and all that stuff. Sometimes you catch them napping and the goalie defies the odds. 

We have these late every season. Means nothing. 

Fun night for Kozak though. That was nice. 

Have a little fun man, a win is a win no matter the circumstances. We sure as hell get shafted enough to deserve an occasional reprieve.

[SABRES 0311]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Well, McLeod gave you most of that this year while getting almost no pp time at first. 

We went down this road with Cozens. Young guy has a good year and it was a fluke. We ask him to make it a consistent output and we shoot ourselves in the foot. I’d rather they get a proven top six forwards not hope we have one.

But we need a better goalie and upgrades to Muel/Power. Those take priority and we have Norris. So I hope the focus of the offseason is the defensive side.

Edited Monday at 12:39 AM by SABRES 0311

[_Q_]

18 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

We went down this road with Cozens. Young guy has a good year and it was a fluke. We ask him to make it a consistent output and we shoot ourselves in the foot. I’d rather they get a proven top six forwards not hope we have one.

But we need a better goalie and upgrades to Muel/Power. Those take priority and we have Norris. So I hope the focus of the offseason is the defensive side.

McLeod is literally nothing like Cozens.

[SABRES 0311]

3 minutes ago, _Q_ said:

McLeod is literally nothing like Cozens.

I didn’t say he was. I’m saying no more giving guys a chance. Get proven producers for top six roles. One good season is not consistent enough. Example: Cozens

[PonyBoy2]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Thank Reimer.  

Well....How was your steak??

[mjd1001]

14 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

I didn’t say he was. I’m saying no more giving guys a chance. Get proven producers for top six roles. One good season is not consistent enough. Example: Cozens

When Cozens scored 31 goals it still wasn't a good season overall.

Mcleod is on Pace for about 10 goals less. But he's a positive player. Cozens wasn't. McLeods underlying metrics are good, Cozens underlying metrics were not. When people join McLeod's line, Their underlying metrics get better, it was the opposite with Cozens.

Cozens had 31 goals, but almost everything else about that season was not a good season, his overall play and his numbers did back it up show it was actually a below average season. A huge myth that many Sabres fans have led themselves to believe was Cozens actually had a good season, it really wasn't.

That is not the case with McLeod this year. His season is 'solid' across the board in all aspects of play. Cozens has never had a season like that.

Edited Monday at 03:51 PM by mjd1001

[SABRES 0311]

10 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

When cousins scored 31 goals it still wasn't a good season overall.

Mcleod is on Pace for about 10 goals less. But he's a positive player. Cozens wasn't. His underlying metrics are good, Cozens underlying metrics were not. When people joined his line. Their underlying metrics get better, it was the opposite with Cozens.

Cozens had 31 goals, but almost everything else about that season was not a good season, his overall play and his numbers did back it up show it was actually a below average season. A huge mess that many savers fans have led themselves to believe was he actually had a good season, it really wasn't. That is not the case with McLeod this year.

If we were a perennial playoff team looking to give a younger center a shot I wouldn’t care. In that scenario we’d have the right players to minimize impacts of this not working out. We are the exact opposite of that.

We don’t even know if Thompson is a 1C or a winger and people want to make a 3C into a 2C. So if this experiment doesn’t work out, based on stats from less than one season, we potentially still won’t have a 1C or 2C. 

KA needs to stop looking inside the cupboard for the answer and find a way to successfully go shopping.

Edited Monday at 02:06 AM by SABRES 0311

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

Have a little fun man, a win is a win no matter the circumstances. We sure as hell get shafted enough to deserve an occasional reprieve.

I did have fun. But it still means nothing. 

[Doohicksie]

6 hours ago, Stads said:

Kevyn has a look on his face there when he realizes all the Pegula ass kissing necessary to keep his job

I actually watched an interview of Adams on YouTube and froze it at the exact moment when Kevyn looked both like he was saying the letter W and he looked confused.  😉 

[gilbert11]

What a wacky team!   Beat Edmonton, Vegas and now Winnipeg on the road, but lose at home to San Jose.

 

Somebody, please make it stop!

 

[gilbert11]

3 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

If we were a perennial playoff team looking to give a younger center a shot I wouldn’t care. In that scenario we’d have the right players to minimize impacts of this not working out. We are the exact opposite of that.

We don’t even know if Thompson is a 1C or a winger and people want to make a 3C into a 2C. So if this experiment doesn’t work out, based on stats from less than one season, we potentially still won’t have a 1C or 2C. 

KA needs to stop looking inside the cupboard for the answer and find a way to successfully go shopping.

I think he’s been looking in the garage or his basement.

[SwampD]

11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

lol, I guess that game will help pad the stats for shot percentages and all that stuff. Sometimes you catch them napping and the goalie defies the odds. 

We have these late every season. Means nothing. 

Fun night for Kozak though. That was nice. 

5 hours ago, gilbert11 said:

What a wacky team!   Beat Edmonton, Vegas and now Winnipeg on the road, but lose at home to San Jose.

 

Somebody, please make it stop!

 

It’s right on brand.

The Sabres are a good team against backup goalies.

Have been for years.

Edited Monday at 11:27 AM by SwampD

[LGR4GM]

Hamilton said that Pegula wasn't at the Winnipeg game and...

Pegula didn't stay and watch the infamous Montreal game where he gave the team a pep talk, is that correct?

[Archie Lee]

12 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

I didn’t say he was. I’m saying no more giving guys a chance. Get proven producers for top six roles. One good season is not consistent enough. Example: Cozens

I'm not making excuses for Adams's general failure to properly do his job the past two off-seasons.  That said, it is unlikely another team is going to hand us their bona-fide top-6 centre, regardless of any overpay that we might be willing to offer (I'm not saying it can't happen, just that it is unlikely).  

McLeod is 4 months younger than Norris, and was drafted one year later and 21 spots deeper into the draft.  Prior to the second half of this season, McLeod has not been used or viewed as a top-6 centre. Even this year it has been more out of necessity that he has been elevated. He's playing at a 52 point pace; I'm not sure that is sustainable, but then this is the 1st opportunity he has been given to have this kind of season, let alone to sustain it.

Norris, from his arrival in the NHL, was projected to be a top-6 centre.  He has played at around a 54 point pace per 82 games; as we know, he has had injury issues.

In an ideal world we get a legit #1 centre this off-season. If not, an alternative would be for Thompson to return to that role. If we don't acquire a legit top-6 centre and we don't move Thompson back from wing, then my opinion is that we have a bigger issue with Norris as our #1 centre than we have with McLeod as our #2.  There are 6-7 teams currently in a playoff position, who don't have a #2 centre producing at McLeod's current level.  There are no teams in a playoff spot with a #1 centre in Norris's mold, who plays at a 55 point pace over 82 games, but typically only plays about 60 games per year. 

If we do add a legit #1 centre this off-season (or if Thompson returns to that role), there might be no good reason to distinguish between Norris and McLeod as #2 or #3.  

      

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

I'm not making excuses for Adams's general failure to properly do his job the past two off-seasons.  That said, it is unlikely another team is going to hand us their bona-fide top-6 centre, regardless of any overpay that we might be willing to offer (I'm not saying it can't happen, just that it is unlikely).  

McLeod is 4 months younger than Norris, and was drafted one year later and 21 spots deeper into the draft.  Prior to the second half of this season, McLeod has not been used or viewed as a top-6 centre. Even this year it has been more out of necessity that he has been elevated. He's playing at a 52 point pace; I'm not sure that is sustainable, but then this is the 1st opportunity he has been given to have this kind of season, let alone to sustain it.

Norris, from his arrival in the NHL, was projected to be a top-6 centre.  He has played at around a 54 point pace per 82 games; as we know, he has had injury issues.

In an ideal world we get a legit #1 centre this off-season. If not, an alternative would be for Thompson to return to that role. If we don't acquire a legit top-6 centre and we don't move Thompson back from wing, then my opinion is that we have a bigger issue with Norris as our #1 centre than we have with McLeod as our #2.  There are 6-7 teams currently in a playoff position, who don't have a #2 centre producing at McLeod's current level.  There are no teams in a playoff spot with a #1 centre in Norris's mold, who plays at a 55 point pace over 82 games, but typically only plays about 60 games per year. 

If we do add a legit #1 centre this off-season (or if Thompson returns to that role), there might be no good reason to distinguish between Norris and McLeod as #2 or #3.  

      

Buffalo is going to run Kulich back as the #2 C and put Norris at #1 C. 

[Archie Lee]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Buffalo is going to run Kulich back as the #2 C and put Norris at #1 C. 

You are probably right. This will mean that McLeod starting the year as #3 will be somewhat of a moot point as he will need to be elevated at various times when Norris is injured and Kulich, due to youth, struggles.

My hope is that Kulich is the young centre that we can use in a package, along with Power/Byram and possibly other pieces, to get a veteran centre. That is not a likely outcome though.