GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Utah, yes Utah 3/20/25 MSG and radio--9 PM

[bob_sauve28]

1 hour ago, Thorner said:

Unfortunately a dime a dozen giveaway goal does not rise to the level of literally scoring on your own empty net: I’m sorry, no one will remember it that way

It was the game winning goal 

[eman]

On 3/21/2025 at 1:40 PM, Ogelthorpe said:

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

Yahoo sports

Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

I actually think he's just motivated by playing back in Canada in front of rabid home crowds and the fact he's playing for club who can legitimately make the playoffs (for the first time in his NHL career)

Edited Saturday at 08:51 PM by eman

[JustOneParade]

9 hours ago, JohnC said:

It doesn't matter where he watches the game. If he hasn't figured out by now that he is the primary person most responsible for the demise of the franchise, then as an owner he's obtuse beyond repair. The owner doesn't need Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. He needs a mirror to find the source of the problem that has plagued this now mocked and irrelevant franchise. 

He can’t see the apathy - or disgust - he has created in the Sabres fan base on the road. The paying customers. His prime source of revenue. That was my point. He can assess his record as the owner on his iPad from his yacht.

I think he’s not unaware. I’m beginning to think he just doesn’t care.

[JP51]

On 3/21/2025 at 2:56 PM, Pimlach said:

Yes, I fear that Norris, while a talented player, is going to have low reliability and low availability given his past.   The defenseman we acquired still  hasn't played, don't understand why.  And somehow we still had to throw in a #2 in a strong draft year. 

The fact that Pegula lets Adams make trades means Adams is coming back.   I hate it, but I think Adams and Ruff are both coming back.  

 

 

I fear this 

[JP51]

On 3/21/2025 at 2:25 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

I don't agree with this statement. I'm sure he sees a problem. But his solution is not your solution. I don't think Adams is necessarily safe. I don't believe the Cozens trade and the Zucker and Greenway signings would prevent a change. But I do think Terry is not eager to blow things up because of the endless loop of failures. 

I think the biggest issue is the mindset in the locker room. It's the only way to explain how nothing changes despite the turnover and in players and coaches. Players arrive in Buffalo and pick up on a vibe that losing is what we do and that it's accepted and tolerated. As a result players don't give full effort, don't fully engage mentally, and generally get comfortable with losing. Players may want to get out of Buffalo because they are sick of losing, but they are the losers! They themselves are the problem! It's in their power to win, but they don't. 

Frankly I'm disappointed in Lindy Ruff. For this team, Thompson in particular, to not be aware of a delayed penalty call and not instantly know you stop the clock in inexcusable. The fact this has happened twice within weeks is doubly so. I would have taken the Sabres back to the Olympic Oval and bag skated them into oblivion. They all need a swift kick in the butt.

I agree with everything you said. I do think the problem however is the construction of the team. The players they picked. They are losers. The GM that assembled the team assembled losers they are all the problem. If Terry doesn't see this he doesn't see the problem. If he doesn't bring in hockey minds and not project managers who redid the bathroom and soccer execs and old players he liked or people from Pittsburgh then he doesn't see the problem. We will see if he sees the problem. I do agree he knows there is a problem. I dont this he sees what the problem is.... 

[Big Guava]

On 3/22/2025 at 9:08 AM, bob_sauve28 said:

Lol, ya sure blame these players for what happened when they were 12 years old, whatever 

It's not on any individual player, it's on the collective mentality they are indoctrinated into when they join the team.

Losing begets a losing mentality from the veteran players there who then teach the younger players the same losing mentality,and the cycle continues until it gets broken.

Ryan O'Reilly won a cup and came here and had the life and energy sucked out of him from the losing. Eichel was supposed to be the savior and then turned into a whipping boy and leaves and wins a cup. Reinhart was a good player...leaves and becomes a 50 goal scorer and wins the cup. Montadour couldn't do much of anything here...leaves and plays a key role on a cup team. 

It's the same stuff over and over and over. Good players come here and do nothing but lose. Then leave and go to other teams and have a lot of success.

At this point it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy after it's been going on this long. Almost have a feeling of "here we go again" and "nothing ever changes".

Edited 23 hours ago by Big Guava

[bob_sauve28]

4 minutes ago, Big Guava said:

It's not on any individual player, it's on the collective mentality they are indoctrinated into when they join the team.

Losing begets a losing mentality from the veteran players there who then teach the younger players the same losing mentality,and the cycle continues until it gets broken.

Ryan O'Reilly won a cup and came here and had the life and energy sucked out of him from the losing. Eichel was supposed to be the savior and then turned into a whipping boy and leaves and wins a cup. Reinhart was a good player...leaves and becomes a 50 goal scorer and wins the cup. Montadour couldn't do much of anything here...leaves and plays a key role on a cup team. 

It's the same stuff over and over and over. Good players come here and do nothing but lose. Then leave and go to other teams and have a lot of success.

At this point it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy after it's been going on this long. Almost have a feeling of "here we go again" and "nothing ever changes".

Well, when you are always in rebuild mode, that happens I guess. Maybe this time just keep the team together and hope--with adjustments here and there--they mature into a good hockey team. 

[Big Guava]

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Well, when you are always in rebuild mode, that happens I guess. Maybe this time just keep the team together and hope--with adjustments here and there--they mature into a good hockey team. 

With the amount of parity and the fact half the conference makes the playoffs every year it is nearly impossible to have a missed playoff streak of this length...even thru sheer dumb luck and a few loser points or a hot streak they should have been able to make it by now.

The fact the Bills are tied for having the 2nd longest playoff drought in NFL history and the Sabres keep reaching new highs with this playoff drought, now at 14 seasons, 4 longer than the Panthers in 2nd place in NHL history, and it's almost inconceivable that these overlapped for several years, let alone happened to two teams from the same city.

Edited 22 hours ago by Big Guava

[JP51]

On 3/22/2025 at 8:24 AM, Big Guava said:

 

Yes...one that we consistently find ourselves on the wrong side of far too often over the last 14 years 

I am with you we are becoming remarkably proficient in seeing the positives in losing a game 

[bob_sauve28]

38 minutes ago, Big Guava said:

With the amount of parity and the fact half the conference makes the playoffs every year it is nearly impossible to have a missed playoff streak of this length...even thru sheer dumb luck and a few loser points or a hot streak they should have been able to make it by now.

The fact the Bills are tied for having the 2nd longest playoff drought in NFL history and the Sabres keep reaching new highs with this playoff drought, now at 14 seasons, 4 longer than the Panthers in 2nd place in NHL history, and it's almost inconceivable that these overlapped for several years, let alone happened to two teams from the same city.

Ok, so?