GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Utah, yes Utah 3/20/25 MSG and radio--9 PM

[bob_sauve28]

They played a really great road game and just made a few disastrous mistakes at the end. With the scored tied late Dahlin fanned on a clearing attempt that put the puck right on a players stick with a wide open net. Shouldn't have happened, but that's life. Terrible accident. Then TNT has the puck with us ready to go on the PP with goalie pulled, a golden opportunity to tie the game, and the puck ends up in our net, ugh. Then Dahlin mishandles (with his hand) and the puck slithers in our net. 

 

Tough loss. But it shows, yet again, there is a fine line between winning and losing.  

[Big Guava]

47 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

They played a really great road game and just made a few disastrous mistakes at the end. With the scored tied late Dahlin fanned on a clearing attempt that put the puck right on a players stick with a wide open net. Shouldn't have happened, but that's life. Terrible accident. Then TNT has the puck with us ready to go on the PP with goalie pulled, a golden opportunity to tie the game, and the puck ends up in our net, ugh. Then Dahlin mishandles (with his hand) and the puck slithers in our net. 

 

Tough loss. But it shows, yet again, there is a fine line between winning and losing.  

 

Yes...one that we consistently find ourselves on the wrong side of far too often over the last 14 years 

[jad1]

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

They played a really great road game and just made a few disastrous mistakes at the end. With the scored tied late Dahlin fanned on a clearing attempt that put the puck right on a players stick with a wide open net. Shouldn't have happened, but that's life. Terrible accident. Then TNT has the puck with us ready to go on the PP with goalie pulled, a golden opportunity to tie the game, and the puck ends up in our net, ugh. Then Dahlin mishandles (with his hand) and the puck slithers in our net. 

 

Tough loss. But it shows, yet again, there is a fine line between winning and losing.  

Let me condense this for you a bit:  "These idiots just scored on themselves."

[Sidc3000]

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

few disastrous mistakes

That should NEVER happen in a professional hockey game. It doesn’t matter how good they may have played for 58 minutes, they proved in less than 2 minutes that they are not a legitimate NHL team 

 

there is a reason why most players who leave the team play better on other teams. Every other team is a legitimate NHL team. 
 

they are a ***** joke around the league. 

Edited Saturday at 12:54 PM by Sidc3000

[bob_sauve28]

41 minutes ago, Big Guava said:

 

Yes...one that we consistently find ourselves on the wrong side of far too often over the last 14 years 

Lol, ya sure blame these players for what happened when they were 12 years old, whatever 

[bob_sauve28]

26 minutes ago, jad1 said:

Let me condense this for you a bit:  "These idiots just scored on themselves."

Making a mistake in a higher pressure situation makes them idiots? 

Successful people make more mistakes than the losers that never even try to accomplish something. 

28 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:

That should NEVER happen in a professional hockey game. It doesn’t matter how good they may have played for 58 minutes, they proved in less than 2 minutes that they are not a legitimate NHL team 

 

there is a reason why most players who leave the team play better on other teams. Every other team is a legitimate NHL team. 
 

they are a ***** joke around the league. 

🤣

[Sidc3000]

1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Lol, ya sure blame these players for what happened when they were 12 years old, whatever 

🙄 They are set up to fail. Losing is a cancer that has infected the whole organization and these skilled players won’t play to their fullest extent until they all leave and they will all leave eventually.

[bunomatic]

If Terry Pegula doesn’t fix his problems soon we are on the cusp of everyone in this league simply refusing to play for the man. Sure he’ll be able to hold young players hostage during the years he essentially has them captured but any veteran worth their salt will blackball this owner. Its already happening. The national media literally plays video and laughs at this franchise. It will get worse. Book it.

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, jad1 said:

Let me condense this for you a bit:  "These idiots just scored on themselves."

Let me condense this for you a bit more: Since Pegula became the owner, a generation ago, this team has not qualified for the playoffs. That's an ignominious accomplishment that few franchises can't match. There's a much bigger issue than a flukish stupid play. It's like worrying about the dirty dishes in the sink when the house is on fire. 

[JustOneParade]

Sure, TP can watch the team in MTL, FL or Utah to see what’s become of the team. He merely needs to watch them at the KBC to see what an utter disaster he’s made of this franchise. The fans there (or not there) will tell the story.

I wonder if TP has attended more road games this season than home games. Does he (dare) even attend home games anymore?

Edited Saturday at 02:10 PM by JustOneParade
Wording

[JohnC]

25 minutes ago, JustOneParade said:

Sure, TP can watch the team in MTL, FL or Utah to see what’s become of the team. He merely needs to watch them at the KBC to see what an utter disaster he’s made of this franchise. The fans there (or not there) will tell the story.

I wonder if TP has attended more road games this season than home games. Does he (dare) even attend home games anymore?

It doesn't matter where he watches the game. If he hasn't figured out by now that he is the primary person most responsible for the demise of the franchise, then as an owner he's obtuse beyond repair. The owner doesn't need Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. He needs a mirror to find the source of the problem that has plagued this now mocked and irrelevant franchise. 

Edited Saturday at 02:36 PM by JohnC

[Archie Lee]

3 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:

They played a really great road game and just made a few disastrous mistakes at the end. With the scored tied late Dahlin fanned on a clearing attempt that put the puck right on a players stick with a wide open net. Shouldn't have happened, but that's life. Terrible accident. Then TNT has the puck with us ready to go on the PP with goalie pulled, a golden opportunity to tie the game, and the puck ends up in our net, ugh. Then Dahlin mishandles (with his hand) and the puck slithers in our net. 

 

Tough loss. But it shows, yet again, there is a fine line between winning and losing.  

On the failed Dahlin clearing attempt that led to the winning goal, I don’t mean to beat up on him, but it was a truly woeful display of unforced panic. For an elite NHL d-man, anyway. The puck was out of the danger zone; he could have simply taken it behind the net. 

When they showed the replay from behind the net, I was looking for the breakout odd man rush option, thinking Dahlin must have seen something.  Dahlin is one of the few players in the game who can see and execute an offensive play from that position. But there was nothing there. Again, not trying to beat up on Dahlin who is amazing, but it wasn’t just the bad execution of fanning on the clear attempt. The decision to attempt to clear the puck was the worst part of the play. 

In the larger context, and considering the failure to get the puck on net at the end in order to get the power play, and how we see these types of plays over and over, even from our best players, and I just come back to culture and coaching. In my view, hiring Lindy Ruff was throwing gas on the fire. 

[Pimlach]

On 3/21/2025 at 9:47 AM, Flashsabre said:

There he is. Could they be sitting any further apart?  And Matt Ellis still lurking

The look here makes me have hope that Adams will be gone soon.   Terry cannot find a worse GM, can he?   

Too bad Adams got to waste a good asset like Dylan Cozens in a trade that seems destined to be another bad one.  

[bob_sauve28]

4 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

On the failed Dahlin clearing attempt that led to the winning goal, I don’t mean to beat up on him, but it was a truly woeful display of unforced panic. For an elite NHL d-man, anyway. The puck was out of the danger zone; he could have simply taken it behind the net. 

When they showed the replay from behind the net, I was looking for the breakout odd man rush option, thinking Dahlin must have seen something.  Dahlin is one of the few players in the game who can see and execute an offensive play from that position. But there was nothing there. Again, not trying to beat up on Dahlin who is amazing, but it wasn’t just the bad execution of fanning on the clear attempt. The decision to attempt to clear the puck was the worst part of the play. 

In the larger context, and considering the failure to get the puck on net at the end in order to get the power play, and how we see these types of plays over and over, even from our best players, and I just come back to culture and coaching. In my view, hiring Lindy Ruff was throwing gas on the fire. 

No disagreement here on that play. Scoring on our own net was bad, but that play was way worse. Hopefully he learned from it and I'm sure he did. I bet he beats himself up over stuff like that. 

[Archie Lee]

2 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

The look here makes me have hope that Adams will be gone soon.   Terry cannot find a worse GM, can he?   

Too bad Adams got to waste a good asset like Dylan Cozens in a trade that seems destined to be another bad one.  

I wonder who sat down first?  Were they offended when the other guy opted to sit as far away as possible?  What’s the “nearly empty luxury box seating etiquette”?  Always leave at least two seats and an aisle between you and the other person?  

[Pimlach]

2 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I wonder who sat down first?  Were they offended when the other guy opted to sit as far away as possible?  What’s the “nearly empty luxury box seating etiquette”?  Always leave at least two seats and an aisle between you and the other person?  

Not if your interested in discussing he team. 

[jad1]

56 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Let me condense this for you a bit more: Since Pegula became the owner, a generation ago, this team has not qualified for the playoffs. That's an ignominious accomplishment that few franchises can't match. There's a much bigger issue than a flukish stupid play. It's like worrying about the dirty dishes in the sink when the house is on fire. 

Technically, this is expanding, not condensing.  But I get the point.

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Making a mistake in a higher pressure situation makes them idiots? 

Successful people make more mistakes than the losers that never even try to accomplish something. 

🤣

No, it makes them geniuses.

 

[bob_sauve28]

2 minutes ago, jad1 said:

 

No, it makes them geniuses.

 

Actually, just human 

[jad1]

30 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Actually, just human 

Right, just human morons.

 

[HumanSlinky39]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

Let me condense this for you a bit more: Since Pegula became the owner, a generation ago, this team has not qualified for the playoffs. That's an ignominious accomplishment that few franchises can't match.

Few can match? Nobody can match this current run of futility. This is the longest running playoff drought in NHL history and there's no end in sight.

[Believer]

As team leaders, think Dahlin and Thompson put enormous pressure on themselves to perform. Both have been part of the playoff drought. Neither has ever played an NHL playoff game. 

Thompson is 27 in his 8th season. Dahlin turns 25 in a few weeks in his 7th season. Both are young.

To me, what both exhibited the other night was anxiety and a lack of poise. Poise comes with confidence and experience. 

In contrast, Zucker is 33 with 12 years in the league, and 52 playoff games. Reimer is 37 in his 15th year, with 3 wins and 8 losses in playoff games. Both play with poise and no apparent anxiety. Neither was part of the Sabre losing legacy.

All four players play hard and make mistakes. This may not be a popular opinion, but think the mistakes Thompson and Dahlin are making recently are because of the pressure they personally feel for another playoff-less season.

Adams waited too long to bring in veteran players to show the kids how to win.

If Pegula keeps Adams, Adams needs to make a few big roster moves this offseason. 

 

 

 

[Thorner]

4 hours ago, jad1 said:

Let me condense this for you a bit:  "These idiots just scored on themselves."

Ya let’s not blame the guy who shot it in his own net but rather the guy confused as to why he was even having a puck sent in his direction cause the blindingly obvious play was to give the puck up 

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

Let me condense this for you a bit more: Since Pegula became the owner, a generation ago, this team has not qualified for the playoffs. That's an ignominious accomplishment that few franchises can't match. There's a much bigger issue than a flukish stupid play. It's like worrying about the dirty dishes in the sink when the house is on fire. 

Technically Pegula has one more appearance in the playoffs as Sabres owner than Adams has as GM 

[Thorner]

2 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:

No disagreement here on that play. Scoring on our own net was bad, but that play was way worse. Hopefully he learned from it and I'm sure he did. I bet he beats himself up over stuff like that. 

Unfortunately a dime a dozen giveaway goal does not rise to the level of literally scoring on your own empty net: I’m sorry, no one will remember it that way

Edited Saturday at 05:40 PM by Thorner

[Thorner]

5 hours ago, Big Guava said:

 

Yes...one that we consistently find ourselves on the wrong side of far too often over the last 14 years 

We’ve just been unlucky 1148 games in a row. 

It can break either way! 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Thorner said:

Ya let’s not blame the guy who shot it in his own net but rather the guy confused as to why he was even having a puck sent in his direction cause the blindingly obvious play was to give the puck up 

Technically Pegula has one more appearance in the playoffs as Sabres owner than Adams has as GM 

I wish both of them would go away.