GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Utah, yes Utah 3/20/25 MSG and radio--9 PM

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Sidc3000 said:

That is very interesting

Dahlin deflected that puck in so Terry would make changes... #conspiracytheory! 

[Scottysabres]

scored on themselves eh?

I fell asleep before the 3rd. One of the bonuses of growing older lol

 

[JP51]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

aaaaaaaand this is why I have been saying God, please no, dont let Adams make any trades...  I know everyone is going to say just wait Cozens will fizzle out... but I disagee... and I think we got stuck with Muel as a forward...  but time will tell... 

[JP51]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

My point is even the most dire circumstances turn around eventually.

this is true and can happen... first step is admitting there is a problem... not sure Pegula sees a problem... his next move or lack thereof will show if he does... but the road back to being a franchise that is accepted as competent is a looooong way away... I believe this drought goes closer to 20 years than 14. 

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13 hours ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Third period recap:

*not going to show it*

I have been warned and suspended for posts and images far, far, far, far less provocative than that. That's simply tasteless and offensive.

Edited Friday at 05:26 PM by ...
can't believe someone would post something like that and it survived 13 hours

[Ogelthorpe]

3 hours ago, eman said:

and Cozens has fit in quite nicely with the Sens!

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

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Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

[North Buffalo]

19 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

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Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

Hmm  and Dhalin said what he was quoted as saying... KA needs to be fired now!  Find another coach...

[Sidc3000]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Dahlin deflected that puck in so Terry would make changes... #conspiracytheory! 

Ya never know 😂

 

[DarthEbriate]

20 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

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Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

I like Cozens and I had way too high expectations for him as a Sabre, but I chalk this up to the post-trade bump. He is scoring points, and that's good for him and the Sens.

However, the player I saw in first 20 minutes of the Sens/Avalanche game last night was the same Cozens I saw in Buffalo. Good at transitioning the puck. 1 turnover inside his own blue line instead of just skating it out. 1 letting Makar walk into the slot for a PPG. 1 bad penalty taken trying to be physical (also led to a goal). The Sabres game had started so I didn't see it, but his goal was on the powerplay with 10 minutes remaining in the game... trailing by 5. 

17 of those hits came in the first two games post-trade at home where the statistician was crediting Cozens with a hit for breathing on someone. His maximum hits in a game since is 3.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

this is true and can happen... first step is admitting there is a problem... not sure Pegula sees a problem... his next move or lack thereof will show if he does... but the road back to being a franchise that is accepted as competent is a looooong way away... I believe this drought goes closer to 20 years than 14. 

I don't agree with this statement. I'm sure he sees a problem. But his solution is not your solution. I don't think Adams is necessarily safe. I don't believe the Cozens trade and the Zucker and Greenway signings would prevent a change. But I do think Terry is not eager to blow things up because of the endless loop of failures. 

I think the biggest issue is the mindset in the locker room. It's the only way to explain how nothing changes despite the turnover and in players and coaches. Players arrive in Buffalo and pick up on a vibe that losing is what we do and that it's accepted and tolerated. As a result players don't give full effort, don't fully engage mentally, and generally get comfortable with losing. Players may want to get out of Buffalo because they are sick of losing, but they are the losers! They themselves are the problem! It's in their power to win, but they don't. 

Frankly I'm disappointed in Lindy Ruff. For this team, Thompson in particular, to not be aware of a delayed penalty call and not instantly know you stop the clock in inexcusable. The fact this has happened twice within weeks is doubly so. I would have taken the Sabres back to the Olympic Oval and bag skated them into oblivion. They all need a swift kick in the butt.

Edited Friday at 06:29 PM by PromoTheRobot

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, JP51 said:

aaaaaaaand this is why I have been saying God, please no, dont let Adams make any trades...  I know everyone is going to say just wait Cozens will fizzle out... but I disagee... and I think we got stuck with Muel as a forward...  but time will tell... 

Yes, I fear that Norris, while a talented player, is going to have low reliability and low availability given his past.   The defenseman we acquired still  hasn't played, don't understand why.  And somehow we still had to throw in a #2 in a strong draft year. 

The fact that Pegula lets Adams make trades means Adams is coming back.   I hate it, but I think Adams and Ruff are both coming back.  

 

 

Edited Friday at 08:18 PM by Pimlach

[thewookie1]

Apparently Tage didn't know there was a delayed call. The call was made by the ref who was behind him so that does make some sense; may also explain Dahlin moving towards him. He probably was trying to tell Tage about the delayed call and Thompson played it as a regular 6v5 situation.

[Pimlach]

12 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Apparently Tage didn't know there was a delayed call. The call was made by the ref who was behind him so that does make some sense; may also explain Dahlin moving towards him. He probably was trying to tell Tage about the delayed call and Thompson played it as a regular 6v5 situation.

Then you scream it out loud.  All The Sabres needed to do it put a shot on net or pass the puck to a Ute.  This is simple stuff, this happened just a few games ago  and they blew a chance at 6 on 3.  They learned nothing from it.  They never seem to learn.  

[HumanSlinky39]

13 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Then you scream it out loud.  All The Sabres needed to do it put a shot on net or pass the puck to a Ute.  This is simple stuff, this happened just a few games ago  and they blew a chance at 6 on 3.  They learned nothing from it.  They never seem to learn.  

Exactly.

We see the same dumb stuff over and over and over again. 

This has to be lowest collective hockey-IQ bunch in league history. I love Rob Ray, but he ain't exactly spending his free time digesting "Ulysses" and even HE was screaming "GIVE UP THE PUCK."

That was basic hockey stuff. And nobody did anything. Scoring on ourselves was just the icing on the stupid cake. 

I'm still stunned...and I don't know how that's even possible at this point.

Edited Friday at 07:31 PM by HumanSlinky39

[Goldseatsaud]

1 hour ago, Ogelthorpe said:

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

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Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

I think players know the franchise is fook up. Can’t get any worse than getting off the sabres

[thewookie1]

25 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Then you scream it out loud.  All The Sabres needed to do it put a shot on net or pass the puck to a Ute.  This is simple stuff, this happened just a few games ago  and they blew a chance at 6 on 3.  They learned nothing from it.  They never seem to learn.  

He very well may have been, all Tage has to do is misinterpret his yelling for is asking for the puck. I highly doubt they have code phrase for give the other guys the puck.

[Pimlach]

18 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

He very well may have been, all Tage has to do is misinterpret his yelling for is asking for the puck. I highly doubt they have code phrase for give the other guys the puck.

True.  

I've been watching them for 55 years.  I have been watching the NHL for 60.  Never seen a team score on themselves when they pulled their goalie.  I laughed about it as a possibility, I made "what if" jokes about it, but I actually never saw it happen. 

Only the Sabres playing in Utah if all places.  I am glad Terry and Kevin got to see it too.  

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, Ogelthorpe said:

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

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Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

It's possible, but it also has to do with his linemates and being dragged into the fight by the team around him rather than being expected to lead some rookies. Batherson has been very good playing with him. They played together at the Worlds, they bonded instantly. Cozens is living in his house even. Instant chemistry and a veteran grinder in Perron on the other wing. How you use a player and how you construct your roster matters, that's the real lesson. 

This happens with almost everyone who leaves here. other teams recognize their strengths and weaknesses and surround them with what they need. Jokiharju in Boston is saying Zadorov is the best partner he's ever played with. A big solid tough D man paired with a puck mover what a radical concept 🙂

 

2 hours ago, ... said:

I have been warned and suspended for posts and images far, far, far, far less provocative than that. That's simply tasteless and offensive.

Sabres hockey is "tasteless and offensive". 

[Pimlach]

4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

It's possible, but it also has to do with his linemates and being dragged into the fight by the team around him rather than being expected to lead some rookies. Batherson has been very good playing with him. They played together at the Worlds, they bonded instantly. Cozens is living in his house even. Instant chemistry and a veteran grinder in Perron on the other wing. How you use a player and how you construct your roster matters, that's the real lesson. 

This happens with almost everyone who leaves here. other teams recognize their strengths and weaknesses and surround them with what they need. Jokiharju in Boston is saying Zadorov is the best partner he's ever played with. A big solid tough D man paired with a puck mover what a radical concept 🙂

 

Cozens is in a good place with little pressure on him.  Perron is a 20 year vet with over 300 goals, I think he can help Cozens settle in and get over his jitters, or whatever he had in Buffalo.  

Jokiharju said that?  interesting comments since he played with Power a lot and with Dahlin some.   You are right on the benefit of complimentary pairings.  I have been waiting for Dumbo Adams to find a solid RHD to pair with Power and get the kid some support.  

Edited yesterday at 12:53 AM by Pimlach

[gomper]

So, if I'm reading the box score correctly, Stanlund, who the penalty was on, got credited for the en goal.  Unreal.  You can't make this up.

[PromoTheRobot]

5 hours ago, Ogelthorpe said:

"In his first seven games with the Senators, Cozens has three goals, six points, 28 hits, and a plus-1 rating. This includes scoring a goal in the Senators' most recent matchup against the Colorado Avalanche on March 20."

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Makes you wonder if he was loafing it to get out of here. 

"I can't deal with all this losing, so I'm going to half-ass it so we lose more."

[Sidc3000]

🤦‍♂️

 

[bunomatic]

The Sabres are so bad they scored on themselves. 
pretty much word for word what the national media was saying about this game and our lovable losers. 
Its laughable really.

I wonder how Terry felt about that ?

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, bunomatic said:

The Sabres are so bad they scored on themselves. 
pretty much word for word what the national media was saying about this game and our lovable losers. 
Its laughable really.

I wonder how Terry felt about that ?

What is really painful is that our best players were on the ice and a part of it.  

[Sidc3000]

8 hours ago, Pimlach said:

What is really painful is that our best players were on the ice and a part of it.  

Exactly. The best Sabres players may be great skilled players, they lack situational awareness and hockey IQ. I don’t give a damn that they are still young, most have been a in the league for years and should have the brains by now. This is what’s you get when you don’t have a well rounded team if youth and veterans. The veterans are there to team the kids what they learned over the years. Most of these players never had that. 
 

for the fans who were all in on the youth movement, reap what you sowed and enjoy your hockey team at its finest because tits not getting any better. 
 

if the Sabres weren’t the biggest laughing stock of the league before, they are now. Especially their BEST players Thompson and Dahlin 

Edited 16 hours ago by Sidc3000