What are we hoping for Rest of Season?

[DarthEbriate]

6 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I hope Benson goes on a pts streak so I don't have to hear anymore nonsense that he's somehow not ready or good enough or whatever else. Give me 15pts to close the season Benny boy. 

Keep Benson with Norris (when healthy) and Thompson. The points will follow.

Or Benson with McLeod/Tuch if JJP needs to be on the TNT line. Just don't play him with Krebs/Quinn.

[MISabresFan]

Removal of the staff.

[Mr Peabody]

That we look competent enough to prospective new comers who  can come in and right the ship. 

Edited March 20 by Mr Peabody

[BlowLeafsBlow123]

16 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

Keep Benson with Norris (when healthy) and Thompson. The points will follow.

Or Benson with McLeod/Tuch if JJP needs to be on the TNT line. Just don't play him with Krebs/Quinn.

I like Benson with Thompson and Norris...two shooters. Benson has the ability to be an elite playmaker but needs to play with someone better than Krebs, who is terrible and not a stylistic fit for Benson's strengths. Every time Benson has had time with Thompson, the line has looked good.

As much as I want to add veterans throughout the top 6, I could see Benson filling the role of top 6 playmaking wing on at least one line. Let's go get Marner for the other 🙂

[Thorner]

On 3/19/2025 at 9:34 AM, Drag0nDan said:

Yeah, i'm not really about chasing lottery picks this year.  I'm not saying trade a top 5 pick either - even in weaker drafts this is the best position to finding star players.  Trading a top 5 pick when you aren't close to anything resembling playoff hockey, is a bit too short-sighted even at this stage of team construction.  

I'd like to see more of a commitment to team defense.  Making things more difficult for our opponents between the blue lines, and in the high slot.  

Nonsense. “This stage of construction.” Kevyn Adams, is that you? 

Field a freaking playoff team. It’s a year-over-year endeavour. 

Edited March 20 by Thorner

[Thorner]

People can’t even commit to the bit. “Oh ya ya fire Adams! Sell the team! Youngest team in hockey again! Losers….

…Top 5 pickz? No im banking that for the future.”

Edited March 20 by Thorner

[LGR4GM]

25 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Nonsense. “This stage of construction.” Kevyn Adams, is that you? 

Field a freaking playoff team. It’s a year-over-year endeavour. 

I disliked because until you can tell me what that pick is getting traded for and until the draft lottery occurs, the answer is no. Buffalo hasn't drafted a top 5 forward since Eichel. 

[Mr. Allen]

If we do struggle the rest of the year, and get a top pick, we need that pick to be a stud top line forward.  Tage is the best forward we have by quite a bit.  We need someone else on his level or better.  
 

[Mr. Allen]

43 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Nonsense. “This stage of construction.” Kevyn Adams, is that you? 

Field a freaking playoff team. It’s a year-over-year endeavour. 

Let’s just assume we have a top 5 pick (before or after the lottery).  What caliber player do you think we could get for it?  Any examples in your mind? 

[Thorner]

40 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I disliked because until you can tell me what that pick is getting traded for and until the draft lottery occurs, the answer is no. Buffalo hasn't drafted a top 5 forward since Eichel. 

I don’t need to tell you anything - my viewpoint wasn’t the one disregarding a particular option on its face. The straw man arguments while a fun distraction ultimately go no where - of course im not advocating for trading it for an unworthy return. Why would I? point I disagreed with was in fact the pigeonholed strategy. It ruled out trading a “top 5 pick” due to the “stage we are at”

bogus. Should only be return based. 

my point was that it shouldn’t be ruled out. You’ll need to ask him do do the math on why we can know, already, someone CAN’T offer a worthy return 

Edited March 20 by Thorner

[Thorner]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

Let’s just assume we have a top 5 pick (before or after the lottery).  What caliber player do you think we could get for it?  Any examples in your mind? 

I don’t watch enough of the current game to conjure up answers I’d be happy taking my time defending when pressed, without doing research right now I don’t want to. If some scenarios were presented though im sure I could pick between them / find out about where my line is 

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Thorner said:

I don’t need to tell you anything - my viewpoint wasn’t the one disregarding a particular option on its face. The straw man arguments while a fun distraction ultimately go no where - of course im not advocating for trading it for an unworthy return. Why would I? point I disagreed with was in fact the pigeonholed strategy. It ruled out trading a “top 5 pick” due to the “stage we are at”

bogus. Should only be return based. 

my point was that it shouldn’t be ruled out. You’ll need to ask him do do the math on why we can know, already, someone CAN’T offer a worthy return 

It's not a strawman, I don't think you can get a good enough return. I certainly dont believe Adams can. 

[Thorner]

37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

It's not a strawman, I don't think you can get a good enough return. I certainly dont believe Adams can. 

Then so be it. But I wasn’t arguing with this future argument I didn’t know you were going to make. Again - my issue was with the idea it should be ruled out due to where we are at re: stage of build. 

[LGR4GM]

3 hours ago, Thorner said:

I don’t need to tell you anything - my viewpoint wasn’t the one disregarding a particular option on its face. The straw man arguments while a fun distraction ultimately go no where - of course im not advocating for trading it for an unworthy return. Why would I? point I disagreed with was in fact the pigeonholed strategy. It ruled out trading a “top 5 pick” due to the “stage we are at”

bogus. Should only be return based. 

my point was that it shouldn’t be ruled out. You’ll need to ask him do do the math on why we can know, already, someone CAN’T offer a worthy return 

What's the last top 5 pick that was traded? What did it get? 

1 hour ago, Thorner said:

Then so be it. But I wasn’t arguing with this future argument I didn’t know you were going to make. Again - my issue was with the idea it should be ruled out due to where we are at re: stage of build. 

It should be ruled out because we won't get a good value in return. 

[Thorner]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

What's the last top 5 pick that was traded? What did it get? 

It should be ruled out because we won't get a good value in return. 

*that wasn’t what the post I responded to was talking about*

I am severely struggling to see what you are missing here 

It’s actually very possible for me to take issue with deals being refused due to analysis of timeline and be ok with a pick not moved because of reasons due to lack of return 

I reiterate: we should not be avoiding the dealing of any prospective asset due to our stage of build

if it is incredibly important to you to explain that no one will offer a reasonable return, anyways: again, so be it. I have no opinion on that 

Edited March 20 by Thorner

[GASabresIUFAN]

Sadly, after tonight the best solution for this team this season is to lose out.  Be entertaining, but the only way things change here is the wheels, doors, chassis and steering column all come off and the team gets booed off the ice.  

Re-signing Bryson, a completely unnecessary and frankly useless signing, is just another example of how tone deaf and incompetent this franchise is.  Seriously, why make news when your team is failing that you’re bringing back again a sub-replacement level player and basically implying that your plan is to run it back one more time despite that plan failing for the last 14 years.  

It’s time for the NHL to intervene. 

[PromoTheRobot]

The goal is to find more levels of unbelievably bad luck and insanity. Own goal during delayed primary? Check!

[Mr. Allen]

7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Sadly, after tonight the best solution for this team this season is to lose out.  Be entertaining, but the only way things change here is the wheels, doors, chassis and steering column all come off and the team gets booed off the ice.  

Re-signing Bryson, a completely unnecessary and frankly useless signing, is just another example of how tone deaf and incompetent this franchise is.  Seriously, why make news when your team is failing that you’re bringing back again a sub-replacement level player and basically implying that your plan is to run it back one more time despite that plan failing for the last 14 years.  

It’s time for the NHL to intervene. 

This is where I struggle though. I know getting a top 3-5 pick could help this team out big time.  But could this team benefit more from playing great and winning the rest of the way?  Build confidence for next year.  
This team has talent.  Everyone can see that.  They just aren’t getting something.  Maybe they find that if they play great hockey the rest of the season.  And that, in my opinion, is worth more than a player we could get in the top 5.  

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, Mr. Allen said:

This is where I struggle though. I know getting a top 3-5 pick could help this team out big time.  But could this team benefit more from playing great and winning the rest of the way?  Build confidence for next year.  
This team has talent.  Everyone can see that.  They just aren’t getting something.  Maybe they find that if they play great hockey the rest of the season.  And that, in my opinion, is worth more than a player we could get in the top 5.  

It appears picks 1-4 are a step up from anyone in the draft.

Then after that, 5-8 are close and then another step down.

You certainly want 1-4 in this draft, but they aren't 4 superstart level players.  If we are worried bout a draft pick, I'd WANT top 4, but just don't fall past pick #8.

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 hours ago, Mr. Allen said:

This is where I struggle though. I know getting a top 3-5 pick could help this team out big time.  But could this team benefit more from playing great and winning the rest of the way?  Build confidence for next year.  
This team has talent.  Everyone can see that.  They just aren’t getting something.  Maybe they find that if they play great hockey the rest of the season.  And that, in my opinion, is worth more than a player we could get in the top 5.  

As long as Adams is the GM this rebuild is dead.  They aren’t good enough to prevent goals.  They really have no chance of winning.  Get the top 5 pick, bring in a new GM, bring in veteran players and try again next season.

Edited March 21 by GASabresIUFAN

[Thorner]

49 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

It appears picks 1-4 are a step up from anyone in the draft.

Then after that, 5-8 are close and then another step down.

You certainly want 1-4 in this draft, but they aren't 4 superstart level players.  If we are worried bout a draft pick, I'd WANT top 4, but just don't fall past pick #8.

I’ve heard it’s more like a drop after 2. Misa and the defender a level above. Hagens production considering the team he is on is I’ve heard underwhelming 

[HumanSlinky39]

Avoiding a dysentery outbreak in the locker room would be cool. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

On 3/20/2025 at 2:34 PM, Thorner said:

People can’t even commit to the bit. “Oh ya ya fire Adams! Sell the team! Youngest team in hockey again! Losers….

…Top 5 pickz? No im banking that for the future.”

There is a huge difference.  What is the best result from this failed season?  That is getting a top 4 pick.

What is the best way for this team to move forward for next season? Get a new GM, get new coaches, and revamp the defense with veteran defenders.  Adding a proven playmaker on offense couldn’t hurt either.  

It’s doubtful that the top 4 pick would be ready for the NHL next year.  Even if he is, it doesn’t change what needs to be done to the team overall.  

Edited March 21 by GASabresIUFAN

[Thorner]

8 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

There is a huge difference.  What is the best result from this failed season?  That is getting a top 4 pick.

What is the best way for this team to move forward for next season? Get a new GM, get new coaches, and revamp the defense with veteran defenders.  Adding a proven playmaker on offense couldn’t hurt either.  

It’s doubtful that the top 4 pick would be ready for the NHL next year.  Even if he is, it doesn’t change what needs to be done to the team overall.  

Right and im not ruling out the trading of that pick to facilitate those aims for any other reason than a lack of appropriate return 

[Mr. Allen]

Ugh.  I am torn.  We’re so close to top 3, but also close to picking 9th.