SABRES 0311 Posted Thursday at 10:04 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:04 PM 1 minute ago, Demoted said: The people have forgotten what matters in America and the only way to bring them back together is to let someone as unhinged as Trump destroy it. So far it's working, plenty of former MAGA turning on Trump. Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have read in a long time. When school gets out make sure you do your chores 😂Â
Demoted Posted Thursday at 10:06 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:06 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have read in a long time. When school gets out make sure you do your chores 😂 Of course it's "dumb" to you, you don't know any better. I don't blame you for your brainwashing, I blame the social media you watch and the previous regimes that put you into this state. I just wish you looked at actual documented facts instead of social media propaganda.   See you have nothing left but to make dumb emotes. You cannot even use the TDS "Trump Derangement Syndrome" b.c it was tainted by a pedo MAGA lawmaker. Edited Thursday at 10:09 PM by Demoted 1
SABRES 0311 Posted Thursday at 10:23 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:23 PM 31 minutes ago, Demoted said: Just to be clear I am very happy that Trump is in office b.c America needs to be burned to the ground and he is the guy to do it.  18 minutes ago, Demoted said: The people have forgotten what matters in America and the only way to bring them back together is to let someone as unhinged as Trump destroy it. So far it's working, plenty of former MAGA turning on Trump. I just didn't think Trump would destroy it this quickly, but Elon has done his part with the spreading the misinformation on Twitter, while Trump does it on "Truth" Social.  You meanwhile are stuck in a brainwashed state until it affects you.  14 minutes ago, Demoted said: Of course it's "dumb" to you, you don't know any better. I don't blame you for your brainwashing, I blame the social media you watch and the previous regimes that put you into this state. I just wish you looked at actual documented facts instead of social media propaganda.   See you have nothing left but to make dumb emotes. You cannot even use the TDS "Trump Derangement Syndrome" b.c it was tainted by a pedo MAGA lawmaker. I disagree with @K-9 @LGR4GM @SwampD on some stuff but you’re the first one I’ve seen post this view. 😆 😂Â
Demoted Posted Thursday at 10:34 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:34 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:   I disagree with @K-9 @LGR4GM @SwampD on some stuff but you’re the first one I’ve seen post this view. 😆 😂 You wanted this too by voting for Trump. You just don't understand. It's why even with all the illegal things he is doing and all the lies being told, you still support him.  See you cannot even challenge his lies, all you can do is put a laugh emote up.  I am saying nothing different than you, the only difference is I am not hiding it behind fake narratives. Edited Thursday at 10:36 PM by Demoted 1
LTS Posted Friday at 06:11 PM Report Posted Friday at 06:11 PM 21 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Hey man I don’t think I ever pushed back on one of these kinds of posts from you and I appreciate what you’re doing. But… Look at every presidency and I am sure you will find examples of perceived (true or false) overstepping of authority. Some say Lincoln did things wrong although the results were positive. Nixon had Watergate. How many presidencies did the Snowden issue span. Obama’s IRS targeted conservatives. All of a sudden we are in 1930s Germany? In two months? IMO this hyped up rhetoric contributes to the stuff on other platforms like pages and posts calling for death. This is why I had/have an issue a while back with something that was posted on here, no matter how it was spun. Again, I appreciate what you’re doing but I question how much threat assessment, vulnerability assessment, most likely course of action analysis, and such went into these conclusions. I’ll back out for now and stick the foreign issues talk I guess. My comment was about how you were directly attacking another poster. The personal insults were what I didn't want. Presidents have been pushing the boundaries of their office since it was formed. There's no doubt about that. A dictator isn't a bad thing be definition. It can be a good thing. But, generally speaking it's been a bad thing in the history of the world. I'm not sure we're 1930's Germany, but we are seeing actions taken that do question where the train is heading and 1930's Germany could be one of those stops. Contribute as much as you want, but let's not attack poster's themselves. (Also, as I said, it wasn't just you. I just used your post as an example.) 20 hours ago, Demoted said: The people have forgotten what matters in America and the only way to bring them back together is to let someone as unhinged as Trump destroy it. So far it's working, plenty of former MAGA turning on Trump. I just didn't think Trump would destroy it this quickly, but Elon has done his part with the spreading the misinformation on Twitter, while Trump does it on "Truth" Social.  You meanwhile are stuck in a brainwashed state until it affects you.  I don't know about that. There are plenty of people who have ideas about what matters in America and they clearly lots of them don't agree. I think people have been largely influenced into modes of thinking that are becoming more and more binary. We're less open to discussions and mixed bags of ideology and more prone to us vs them mentality. It's dangerous, but then I think that's just what the two major parties want. 1
SwampD Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:27 PM (edited) On 3/20/2025 at 1:16 PM, SABRES 0311 said: I’m not ignorant of 1930s Germany or the BS they pulled. I’m also not ignorant of modern day liberals and their more recent BS. -Pretend Trump will start WW3 with NK because he’s calling KJU rocket man -MTG (who is an idiot) will incite a civil war -Tools keying Teslas -Let’s pretend leftist groups who use violence don’t exist but act like everyone we don’t like is a racist or nazi. -Let’s burn and loot cities then rename part of one CHAZ. Then cling to Jan 6 (also stupid) like it marginalizes said multi city violence.  Did you not see the campaign rallies? If they are viewed as racist it's because they wanted us to view them that way. I actually think it was their campaign strategy. It got a lot of people to the polls that don't normally vote. Edited Friday at 07:29 PM by SwampD
SABRES 0311 Posted Friday at 07:48 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:48 PM 17 minutes ago, SwampD said: Did you not see the campaign rallies? If they are viewed as racist it's because they wanted us to view them that way. I actually think it was their campaign strategy. It got a lot of people to the polls that don't normally vote. Are you saying the idea was to piss off the left in hopes their reaction would draw a counter reaction of more conservative voters? Like I said I’m more focused on the foreign stuff right now. Largely because it’s what most/all of my adult life has been spent on. Not complaining about that. Â
K-9 Posted Friday at 07:51 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:51 PM 1 hour ago, LTS said: My comment was about how you were directly attacking another poster. The personal insults were what I didn't want. Presidents have been pushing the boundaries of their office since it was formed. There's no doubt about that. A dictator isn't a bad thing be definition. It can be a good thing. But, generally speaking it's been a bad thing in the history of the world. I'm not sure we're 1930's Germany, but we are seeing actions taken that do question where the train is heading and 1930's Germany could be one of those stops. Contribute as much as you want, but let's not attack poster's themselves. (Also, as I said, it wasn't just you. I just used your post as an example.)  I don't know about that. There are plenty of people who have ideas about what matters in America and they clearly lots of them don't agree. I think people have been largely influenced into modes of thinking that are becoming more and more binary. We're less open to discussions and mixed bags of ideology and more prone to us vs them mentality. It's dangerous, but then I think that's just what the two major parties want. Yes, we have different ideas about what matters in America and have since our inception. But EVERYONE could agree that the Constitution and rule of law are paramount. Indeed, they have always been what makes our disagreements manageable. What’s changed is that a certain faction no longer believes that we shouldn’t have a convicted felon and sexual abuser hold the highest office in the land; a person who conspired to defraud the United States and disenfranchise 81 million voters. A person who fomented an insurrection. Integrity was the bare minimum requirement for the office, regardless of our differing opinions on what else matters, but no longer. On another note, a dictator is ALWAYS a bad thing in our representative republic democracy. Indeed, dictators are antithetical to that very idea of our Constitution. Â
SwampD Posted Friday at 08:07 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:07 PM 13 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Are you saying the idea was to piss off the left in hopes their reaction would draw a counter reaction of more conservative voters? Like I said I’m more focused on the foreign stuff right now. Largely because it’s what most/all of my adult life has been spent on. Not complaining about that.  There were bumper stickers that said "It's time to make liberals cry!" I kinda think they mean progressives but whatever. Progressives are not liberal. They are just as awful as Trumpers. Trump intentionally mobilized the racist vote. It's why he won the election. If you want to ignore all the examples, that's fine. I'm not going to list them. Â
SABRES 0311 Posted Friday at 08:10 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:10 PM 1 minute ago, SwampD said: There were bumper stickers that said "It's time to make liberals cry!" I kinda think they mean progressives but whatever. Progressives are not liberal. They are just as awful as Trumpers. Trump intentionally mobilized the racist vote. It's why he won the election. If you want to ignore all the examples, that's fine. I'm not going to list them. Â Agree on the progressive part. Cant argue the second. Bold: was just asking. Chill 1
LGR4GM Posted Friday at 08:12 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 08:12 PM 1 hour ago, LTS said: My comment was about how you were directly attacking another poster. The personal insults were what I didn't want. Presidents have been pushing the boundaries of their office since it was formed. There's no doubt about that. A dictator isn't a bad thing be definition. It can be a good thing. But, generally speaking it's been a bad thing in the history of the world. I'm not sure we're 1930's Germany, but we are seeing actions taken that do question where the train is heading and 1930's Germany could be one of those stops. Contribute as much as you want, but let's not attack poster's themselves. (Also, as I said, it wasn't just you. I just used your post as an example.)  I don't know about that. There are plenty of people who have ideas about what matters in America and they clearly lots of them don't agree. I think people have been largely influenced into modes of thinking that are becoming more and more binary. We're less open to discussions and mixed bags of ideology and more prone to us vs them mentality. It's dangerous, but then I think that's just what the two major parties want. Dictatorship is literally the antithesis of everything the United States has stood for up until about now. We rebelled because we felt we had no representation. We fought WWII so all ppl could choose their leaders and be free, self determination. That was the entire conflict surrounding the cold war. To start arguing now that it can be a good thing when it directly contradicts the very essence of Americanism is a mistake IMPO. 5 minutes ago, SwampD said: There were bumper stickers that said "It's time to make liberals cry!" I kinda think they mean progressives but whatever. Progressives are not liberal. They are just as awful as Trumpers. Trump intentionally mobilized the racist vote. It's why he won the election. If you want to ignore all the examples, that's fine. I'm not going to list them.  We have a lot of recent evidence that this isn't true. When progressives start arresting foreigners and locking them up without reason or recourse, you let me know though.Â
SwampD Posted Friday at 08:22 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:22 PM 8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Dictatorship is literally the antithesis of everything the United States has stood for up until about now. We rebelled because we felt we had no representation. We fought WWII so all ppl could choose their leaders and be free, self determination. That was the entire conflict surrounding the cold war. To start arguing now that it can be a good thing when it directly contradicts the very essence of Americanism is a mistake IMPO. We have a lot of recent evidence that this isn't true. When progressives start arresting foreigners and locking them up without reason or recourse, you let me know though. I agree. I meant in terms of being annoying, not in terms of being dangerous.
K-9 Posted Friday at 08:29 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:29 PM 4 minutes ago, SwampD said: I agree. I meant in terms of being annoying, not in terms of being dangerous. I’m glad you qualified that. There are two alternatives to progression: stagnation and regression. Neither are healthy for a democracy.Â
LGR4GM Posted Friday at 09:10 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 09:10 PM Let's check in Trumpland, a place full of ppl that hate you: Â
SABRES 0311 Posted Friday at 09:23 PM Report Posted Friday at 09:23 PM 11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Let's check in Trumpland, a place full of ppl that hate you: Â Thats a special kind of stupid.
LGR4GM Posted Saturday at 04:52 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 04:52 PM We are weeks away, at best, from a full Constitutional crisis. There is almost nothing stopping trump from abducting anyone he wants and deporting them. Trump even said he would do it to ppl who vandalized Tesla vehicles threatening sending them to El Salvador prisons. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/judges-stand-firm-trump-ramps-attacks-judiciary-rcna197287   Â
K-9 Posted Saturday at 06:14 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:14 PM 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: We are weeks away, at best, from a full Constitutional crisis. There is almost nothing stopping trump from abducting anyone he wants and deporting them. Trump even said he would do it to ppl who vandalized Tesla vehicles threatening sending them to El Salvador prisons. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/judges-stand-firm-trump-ramps-attacks-judiciary-rcna197287    There is no federal domestic terrorism statute. In 2022, the House passed the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act, but it died in the Senate. Ironically, it was filibustered by Senate Republicans. I think we all know why.
SABRES 0311 Posted Saturday at 06:30 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:30 PM 12 minutes ago, K-9 said: There is no federal domestic terrorism statute. In 2022, the House passed the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act, but it died in the Senate. Ironically, it was filibustered by Senate Republicans. I think we all know why. They should probably reexamine domestic terrorism laws. The way things are going and the way people are evolving or devolving, it could get worse. Its a powder keg IMO.
Demoted Posted Saturday at 08:21 PM Report Posted Saturday at 08:21 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said: They should probably reexamine domestic terrorism laws. The way things are going and the way people are evolving or devolving, it could get worse. Its a powder keg IMO. That would make Jan 6th a domestic terrorist event and Republicans dont want that. Â This is what you voted for. Edited Saturday at 08:22 PM by Demoted
SABRES 0311 Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM Report Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM (edited) 28 minutes ago, Demoted said: That would make Jan 6th a domestic terrorist event and Republicans dont want that.  This is what you voted for. It already was IMO. The use or threat of violence for religious, political, or ideological goals. Different agencies have their verbiage but in general that’s what it is. In my experience people who openly call for their country to burn down are susceptible to supporting or committing acts of terrorism. Of course that was in other places. But what do I know about dealing with terrorists? 😂 Edited Saturday at 08:50 PM by SABRES 0311
Demoted Posted Saturday at 10:11 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:11 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said: It already was IMO. The use or threat of violence for religious, political, or ideological goals. Different agencies have their verbiage but in general that’s what it is. In my experience people who openly call for their country to burn down are susceptible to supporting or committing acts of terrorism. Of course that was in other places. But what do I know about dealing with terrorists? 😂 You voted for the guy to burn it all down. I am just glad he is doing what some people were expecting. When you vote in a leader that incites violence, uses violent words and gestures this is what you get. When you vote on a guy who says everything that he doesn't like is terrorism or illegal, this is what you get. Edited Saturday at 10:13 PM by Demoted 1
SABRES 0311 Posted Saturday at 10:15 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:15 PM 3 minutes ago, Demoted said: You voted for the guy to burn it all down. I am just glad he is doing what some people were expecting. When you vote in a leader that incites violence, uses violent words and gestures this is what you get. When you vote on a guy who says everything that he doesn't like is terrorism or illegal, this is what you get. Good luck getting a job that requires a poly when you get older 😂Â
Demoted Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM (edited) 10 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Good luck getting a job that requires a poly when you get older 😂 I'm retired, but to your point MAGA are ***** if they require a poly Did Trump take a poly? I am guessing by the emote that got you angry. Edited Sunday at 09:03 AM by Demoted 1
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