Trump gets lackey to file impeachment on judge, the Constitutional crisis is here

[LGR4GM]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-impeachment-articles-hit-judge-who-ordered-trump-stop-tren-de-aragua-deportation-flights

If trump succeeds, they'll be no longer any perceived limit on his power and the US will cease being a functional Democracy. 

Why? Well, if judges and the judicial review process no longer apply, then the judiciary no longer applies, then Trump has no check on his power. 

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[K-9]

5 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-impeachment-articles-hit-judge-who-ordered-trump-stop-tren-de-aragua-deportation-flights

If trump succeeds, they'll be no longer any perceived limit on his power and the US will cease being a functional Democracy. 

Why? Well, if judges and the judicial review process no longer apply, then the judiciary no longer applies, then Trump has no check on his power. 

Another move out of the NAZI Germany playbook to add to the previous moves out of that playbook. 

Trump is a toddler having a perpetual tantrum when he doesn’t get his way. He is clueless about checks and balances. I want to see the actual charges brought against this judge and how many GOP reps have the stones to stand up for our system of government. 

[SABRES 0311]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

Another move out of the NAZI Germany playbook to add to the previous moves out of that playbook. 

Trump is a toddler having a perpetual tantrum when he doesn’t get his way. He is clueless about checks and balances. I want to see the actual charges brought against this judge and how many GOP reps have the stones to stand up for our system of government. 

So bring members of a gang designated as a terrorist organization back to the U.S.? Seems dumb but ok.

[K-9]

1 minute ago, SABRES 0311 said:

So bring members of a gang designated as a terrorist organization back to the U.S.? Seems dumb but ok.

Way to miss the point entirely. 

[SABRES 0311]

3 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Way to miss the point entirely. 

 I guess trying to send them back to their home country is exactly what the nazis would do. The judge is a hero and is looking out for U.S. citizens by keeping members of a terrorist organization here. They’re just misunderstood I am sure.

[LGR4GM]

9 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

 I guess trying to send them back to their home country is exactly what the nazis would do. The judge is a hero and is looking out for U.S. citizens by keeping members of a terrorist organization here. They’re just misunderstood I am sure.

It's irrelevant. Trump has no authority under the constitution to impeach a judge for ruling against him. That's entire crux of the issue, you're arguing something that's beyond irrelevant to that. You don't have to like a judges ruling, but the Constitutional remedy is appeal, not impeachment.

Also the ruling is about having a hearing before deportation from my understanding. Surely that low bar shouldn't worry you.

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[LGR4GM]

22 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

So bring members of a gang designated as a terrorist organization back to the U.S.? Seems dumb but ok.

Not relevant. If trump thinks the judge ruled incorrectly you appeal. Impeachment of federal judges for disagreeing with trump breaks checks and balances. It effectively ends the judiciary. 

[SABRES 0311]

12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

It's irrelevant. Trump has no authority under the constitution to impeach a judge for ruling against him. That's entire crux of the issue, you're arguing something that's beyond irrelevant to that. You don't have to like a judges ruling, but the Constitutional remedy is appeal, not impeachment.

Also the ruling is about having a hearing before deportation from my understanding. Surely that low bar shouldn't worry you.

Wow. Letting terrorists into the country is irrelevant? 😂 

Good to know where you stand.

Im sure victims of terrorism and those fight against appreciate that. 🤡 

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[LGR4GM]

28 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Wow. Letting terrorists into the country is irrelevant? 😂 

Good to know where you stand.

Im sure victims of terrorism and those fight against appreciate that. 🤡 

Does this tactic typically work for you? You have deliberately ignored why this thread exists. Trump saying a judge should be impeached, and then getting a lackey in congress to attempt that process because the judge ruled against him is a Constitutional crisis. The remedy for this ruling is appeal. 

You want to turn this into something else. A battle over something that's not even part of the ruling. In fact your argument is strawman nonsense. Do you feel it is acceptable to have a judge impeached simply because they ruled against you? Yes, or no? 

 

Sidenote: you attempt to put words in my mouth like above again and my tone will rapidly change. Don't ever ***** accuse me of supporting terrorists again. 

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[SABRES 0311]

22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Does this tactic typically work for you? You have deliberately ignored why this thread exists. Trump saying a judge should be impeached, and then getting a lackey in congress to attempt that process because the judge ruled against him is a Constitutional crisis. The remedy for this ruling is appeal. 

You want to turn this into something else. A battle over something that's not even part of the ruling. In fact your argument is strawman nonsense. Do you feel it is acceptable to have a judge impeached simply because they ruled against you? Yes, or no? 

 

Sidenote: you attempt to put words in my mouth like above again and my tone will rapidly change. Don't ever ***** accuse me of supporting terrorists again. 

If a judge is that stupid they block removing terrorists then they should be impeached. 

People are mad the U.S. isn’t sharing intel with Ukraine but have such little faith in those same/similar organizations they came up with an excuse to keep bad guys in the U.S.

If someone supports that kind of stupidity just so someone they don’t like takes a loss then they are supporting the bad guys over country.

Remember four years ago people in here said supporting/voting for Trump is supporting bigotry and the like? It’s a two way street. If someone wants him to take a loss on this they are in favor of keeping terrorists in the U.S. Sucks doesn’t it?

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[K-9]

11 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

 I guess trying to send them back to their home country is exactly what the nazis would do. The judge is a hero and is looking out for U.S. citizens by keeping members of a terrorist organization here. They’re just misunderstood I am sure.

This is a pointless discussion. Learn history, study the Constitution and understand the role of the Appellate courts and then perhaps you’ll have an understanding of the bigger picture here instead of your utterly absurd notion that this judge is an advocate for terrorists. Or maybe just listen to what Chief Justice Roberts had to say on this matter. Regardless, I refuse to get sucked into another one of your rabbit holes of discussion. 

 

 

[Demoted]

New definition of IMPEACH- Anyone Trump doesn't like or cannot buy.

[SABRES 0311]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

This is a pointless discussion. Learn history, study the Constitution and understand the role of the Appellate courts and then perhaps you’ll have an understanding of the bigger picture here instead of your utterly absurd notion that this judge is an advocate for terrorists. Or maybe just listen to what Chief Justice Roberts had to say on this matter. Regardless, I refuse to get sucked into another one of your rabbit holes of discussion. 

 

 

I refuse to believe the reason for what the judge did is valid. Instead of removing terrorists he blocks it because of a broad what if. Absolutely stupid or corrupt.

[LGR4GM]

14 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

If a judge is that stupid they block removing terrorists then they should be impeached. 

People are mad the U.S. isn’t sharing intel with Ukraine but have such little faith in those same/similar organizations they came up with an excuse to keep bad guys in the U.S.

If someone supports that kind of stupidity just so someone they don’t like takes a loss then they are supporting the bad guys over country.

Remember four years ago people in here said supporting/voting for Trump is supporting bigotry and the like? It’s a two way street. If someone wants him to take a loss on this they are in favor of keeping terrorists in the U.S. Sucks doesn’t it?

The US Constitution was written for a reason. Discarding it because you dislike something is folly. 

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[SABRES 0311]

13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The US Constitution was written for a reason. Discarding it because you dislike something is folly. 

Not liking terrorists in the U.S. is folly? That’s a new one. Let me guess, terrorists are irrelevant. SMH

[Demoted]

38 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Not liking terrorists in the U.S. is folly? That’s a new one. Let me guess, terrorists are irrelevant. SMH

He isn't talking about terrorists though... I think that is the one thing you are missing out of all this back and forth. Understandable though, it's how people are anymore.

 

[SABRES 0311]

15 minutes ago, Demoted said:

He isn't talking about terrorists though... I think that is the one thing you are missing out of all this back and forth. Understandable though, it's how people are anymore.

 

From the article the reason the judge made his decision was due to potential impacts on non terrorists personnel. That is the dumbest reason I have ever heard for not deporting known members of a terrorist organization.

IMO what people are missing is an understanding of what these kinds of people are like. Not race, religion, nationality, religion. I’m talking about mindset and capability. To support what this judge did is as stupid as the judge’s decision. 

So if the judge has demonstrated this level of poor judgement, why shouldn’t he be impeached?

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[K-9]

15 minutes ago, Demoted said:

He isn't talking about terrorists though... I think that is the one thing you are missing out of all this back and forth. Understandable though, it's how people are anymore.

 

There is no need to adjudicate anymore because when Trump says someone is a terrorist or any other type of criminal, that’s the verdict. The rule of law means nothing to these clueless idiots. 

[SABRES 0311]

21 minutes ago, K-9 said:

There is no need to adjudicate anymore because when Trump says someone is a terrorist or any other type of criminal, that’s the verdict. The rule of law means nothing to these clueless idiots. 

The organization they belong to is designated as a terrorist organization.

Per an NPR report from March 16 2025:

“Last year, the Biden administration labelledTren de Aragua as a transnational criminal organization, and in January, the U.S. government designated the Tren de Aragua as a foreign terrorist organization.”

It was the Biden administration who labeled them as a terrorist organization. Trump slapped the transnational tag on them.

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[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Not liking terrorists in the U.S. is folly? That’s a new one. Let me guess, terrorists are irrelevant. SMH

I have repeatedly explained to you what I am saying. You are either A. deliberately ignoring it to have a completely different conversation or B. lack a fundamental understanding of why a US President calling for a Judge to be impeached over a disagreement is unconstitutional. 

The judge did not rule that they liked Terrorists or that Terrorists cannot be expelled from the US. You sound beyond ignorant when you repeatedly come back to your fox news/brietbart talking point. Read up on the ruling and what it did and why they did it. These terrorists being rounded up and expelled from the US is not the issue. 

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[LGR4GM]

57 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

The organization they belong to is designated as a terrorist organization.

Per an NPR report from March 16 2025:

“Last year, the Biden administration labelledTren de Aragua as a transnational criminal organization, and in January, the U.S. government designated the Tren de Aragua as a foreign terrorist organization.”

It was the Biden administration who labeled them as a terrorist organization. Trump slapped the transnational tag on them.

Right but how do you know everyone who is being rounded up belongs to that group? You just assume that Trump Corp never that up? Because there's a mountain of evidence they are incompetent at best. That is why we have a hearing with a judge and then ppl get deported. We have laws and due process and that is either the bedrock of this Democracy or it doesn't apply at all. That is the issue. Once there is no due process, Trump can round up and remove whoever he wants, including me and you. 

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[LGR4GM]

56 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

From the article the reason the judge made his decision was due to potential impacts on non terrorists personnel. That is the dumbest reason I have ever heard for not deporting known members of a terrorist organization.

IMO what people are missing is an understanding of what these kinds of people are like. Not race, religion, nationality, religion. I’m talking about mindset and capability. To support what this judge did is as stupid as the judge’s decision. 

So if the judge has demonstrated this level of poor judgement, why shouldn’t he be impeached?

Why should the judge be impeached? Why is impeachment the correct route here instead of appeal? Trump is free to appeal the ruling to a higher court, but he isn't calling for that. He wants this judge removed and worked up his base, see yourself, for this. Once Trump can remove 1 judge for disagreeing with him, he can remove any judge. 

You're essentially arguing that if you think a judge makes a poor judgement they can be removed. Okay, I think Citizens United was an awful judgement, all the judges who ruled in favor must be impeached and removed. I think Aileen Cannon is one of the worst judges in the history of the country, she makes lots of poor decisions and was routinely slapped down by the District Court, removed. Poor judgement right? Again, you want to open pandora's box and Trump has convinced beyond a doubt the only way to be safe is his way with his judgement. That's how Fascism works. Hitler was about how he was the only one who could save Germany or get anything, you had to believe in him. Churchill was about how only the people could save themselves if they banded together, they had to believe in themselves. Subtle difference. 

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[SwampD]

2 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

I refuse to believe the reason for what the judge did is valid. Instead of removing terrorists he blocks it because of a broad what if. Absolutely stupid or corrupt.

So you are saying that the judge actually wants the terrorist to stay in this country?! And this is just a tactic?

With thoughts like this, I'm really glad that there are still people and judges who actually give a crap about the constitution.

[LGR4GM]

Trump has appealed and the judges order did not order the release of the gang members according to what I am reading. They were to be remanded in custody until a briefing was filed about this. It was a temporary restraining order for 14 days to allow the court process to play out. The District Court who oversees the lower court, had asked for motions to be filed by Tuesday at 5pm. I don't see a judge that loves terrorists, just that using the AEA in this case is questionable considering what it was written for and how it is being deployed. We can still apprehend terrorists and hold them for deportation. There is no reason to even have this debate, you just appeal the TRO, file your brief, let the District Court rule and probably it ends there. Maybe someone fights it to the Supreme Court since the AEA is a very old law not used since WWII. 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-admin-ignores-judges-order-bring-deportation-planes/story?id=119857181

[SABRES 0311]

15 minutes ago, SwampD said:

So you are saying that the judge actually wants the terrorist to stay in this country?! And this is just a tactic?

With thoughts like this, I'm really glad that there are still people and judges who actually give a crap about the constitution.

The judge offered no proof anyone on the plane was not a member of the terrorist organization. People are actually in favor of bringing terrorists back into the U.S. and you’re saying I’m the one who doesn’t care about the constitution?

😂