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2 minutes ago, K012010 said:

I’m just curious, what people like you think about all of the games where UPL has legitimately shut down very good teams. There has been a decent amount at this point.

You say he stinks— do you think what he has shown is not enough to build around? Are you saying he’s just too inconsistent? Or are you saying he doesn’t have the ability to be a number one goalie in this league? I’m just trying to understand what fans like you really mean by this.

I just find it interesting that our fan base flip-flops on UPL so much. We have to acknowledge that our entire team is lacking. Our defense in my opinion is our worst group. There is talent there obviously, but they don’t know how to play together and they really end up being a terrible defense.

When you say UPL stinks, are you factoring this in? Do you not think that could have a tremendous effect on a goalie over a whole season, multiple seasons etc? I think it would be very Sabres like for us to part ways with UPL anytime in the next three or four years and then watch him go dominate on a good team with a good defense in front of him.

Our fan base just continues to punish goalies for not being Dominik Hasek or Ryan Miller. I’ve already acknowledged that UPL definitely needs to be more consistent, but imagine playing with that garbage defense in front of you on a nightly basis. He has shown that he has the ability to be a number one. The issue is figuring out where his inconsistency is really coming from. He’s also still young.

It seemed that our fan base had come to a conclusion a year or so ago that UPL was indeed a number one goaltender in this league. Now he’s not? Did he forget how to play the position? Or is it more the fact that he has a garbage defense in front of him and he’s struggling to maintain the right mindset?

 

He's too inconsistent. That what I think. 

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3 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I never thought he was Peterka ++  

I was never convinced he was the better player between the two.   I liked Peterka's speed and his body type is much stronger.  

No legs and no wind could be that he is lazy and lost.   But I want you to be right. I want to be wrong on Quinn.  

I prefer in the off season that we add a top 6 forward similar to Tuch in size, speed, and skill.  I think this player makes Quinn expendable.    

Agree to disagree about Peterka vs Quinn, but I agree with everything else.

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2 minutes ago, Stads said:

This is definitely what camp I'm in

Yeah, what I’m trying to understand from fans who say this is what do you think is the reason for that? Are you not considering the fact that it’s possibly our defense being so bad that is leading to his inconsistency? That is eroding the confidence he had just as we’ve done with many other good players who have gone on to be better elsewhere?

I think it’s fair to say that he is inconsistent right now. But that’s a ridiculously simplistic diagnosis for the situation. The only type of goaltender that could succeed on this Sabres team is a Hasek level player. And that’s why I’m saying that the fan base is being unfair to UPL. Ryan Miller would have a hard time with this defense in front of him.

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1 minute ago, K012010 said:

Yeah, what I’m trying to understand from fans who say this is what do you think is the reason for that? Are you not considering the fact that it’s possibly our defense being so bad that is leading to his inconsistency? That is eroding the confidence he had just as we’ve done with many other good players who have gone on to be better elsewhere?

I think it’s fair to say that he is inconsistent right now. But that’s a ridiculously simplistic diagnosis for the situation. The only type of goaltender that could succeed on this Sabres team is a Hasek level player. And that’s why I’m saying that the fan base is being unfair to UPL. Ryan Miller would have a hard time with this defense in front of him.

That's a simplistic view. UPL has ***** goals saved above expected. That's not on his defense. 

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Just now, LGR4GM said:

That's a simplistic view. UPL has ***** goals saved above expected. That's not on his defense. 

You can't separate the clown plays that lead to scoring chances. You are focused on stats and ignoring reality.

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