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3 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:

Prior to his injury there were reports that eichel said he wanted out. The injury just gave Adams a “reason” to trade him

We signed taylor hall as a result of eichel essentially asking them to do something or he was going public with a trade request.  After his injury and subsequent flame out by hall, he still wanted to be traded.  He wanted the ADR surgery, and i think adams was opposed simply because he didn't want him to further damage his value.  They tried rehab and it didn't work - if he had made any commitment to the franchise at that point i'm sure he would've been allowed to get whatever surgery he wanted. Then Eichel went public with the whole - they wont let me get surgery debacle. 

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8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

I HOPE Dahlin told Adams this.

Nothing seems to get through to these people that 14 years without the playoffs is not acceptable. That not having a plan to improve is not OK. That cheaping out on the Sabres and hoping things improve is not a plan.

Id have Tage and Tuch go too with the same message. Maybe that would wake Pegula up to what an absolute clusterf$&k this organization is

Worked with Eichel.

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Dahlin angrily denies the Spittin Chiclets  “report”… “I don’t know what he’s talking about. I have never said I want out of here. I’m not happy where we’re at. I don’t want to lose. We have to get better. I never said I want out of here.” #Sabres

That’s from Harrington 

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Just now, Brawndo said:

Interesting quote. "I haven't even mentioned the word 'leave'." So there was a meeting and something was discussed. I'm sure it wasn't who they think the Bills will sign in free agency.

11 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said:

Like we couldn’t see that 1,000,000 miles away. Good for him, he definitely deserves to be on a real hockey team.

Yeah. Don't help make us better. Just run away. Great attitude.

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Just now, Brawndo said:

Dahlin angrily denies the Spittin Chiclets  “report”… “I don’t know what he’s talking about. I have never said I want out of here. I’m not happy where we’re at. I don’t want to lose. We have to get better. I never said I want out of here.” #Sabres

Sounds like Dahlin is angry but not wanting off the Sabres. He wants Adams to do stuff or he'll go straight to the owner and perhaps recruit Bills players to aid in his coup

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22 minutes ago, LTS said:

So is Dahlin going to get a neck injury?  The issue with Eichel was he literally could not play hockey without surgery.  It's not apples to apples.  I get leverage and all that.

Losing Dahlin would impact this team, I'm not about to defend some player who took an $11M contract and then turn around and forced his way off the team. If he was that concerned he should have negotiated a shorter contract.  Him pushing his way off the team would negatively impact the team. A team we all want to improve. So, if he pushes his way off the team he's contributing to this team losing more.

Why on Earth would I support him in his endeavor?  I wouldn't.

I support him in his endeavour to put pressure on ownership and management to improve the team. 

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23 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

 

Terry, best to just fire Adams before it come a to this. 

Adams has his run and probably needs to go, but don't pretend a new GM magically turns this around on a dime.

Just now, Archie Lee said:

I support him in his endeavour to put pressure on ownership and management to improve the team. 

This assumes that ownership is actively withholding and resisting improving the team. 

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21 minutes ago, LTS said:

So is Dahlin going to get a neck injury?  The issue with Eichel was he literally could not play hockey without surgery.  It's not apples to apples.  I get leverage and all that.

Eichel’s neck injury was just dumb luck for Adams. He was able to use that as an excuse to trade him. Jack wanted out before the end of the prior season. 

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1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Adams has his run and probably needs to go, but don't pretend a new GM magically turns this around on a dime.

The first part of your sentence, up to the comma, is all I have ever said. The second part, after the comma, is you making stuff up. 

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7 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Sounds like Dahlin is angry but not wanting off the Sabres. He wants Adams to do stuff or he'll go straight to the owner and perhaps recruit Bills players to aid in his coup

For all we know this could have been planted by Dahlin’s agent. I’m sure they have had discussions about his future with the Sabres and what he will do if they don’t get better. 

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Didn’t Adams say during his presser that he had a long talk with Dahlin at or around the deadline?

I don’t doubt Bisonette was told what he was told, or that Dahlin expressed frustration during that meeting with the state of the team, or that Dahlin is being truthful in his quotes this morning.

Sounds like a bit of game of telephone going on here.

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18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Interesting quote. "I haven't even mentioned the word 'leave'." So there was a meeting and something was discussed. I'm sure it wasn't who they think the Bills will sign in free agency.

Yeah. Don't help make us better. Just run away. Great attitude.

I honestly don't blame him. Nothing is being done to make players think they will be anything other than the worst team in the league again next year. The fact that Adams is still here screams they are not serious about winning. Dahlin has seen NOTHING but incompetency since being drafted, and there is really no end in sight. 

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18 minutes ago, Sidc3000 said:

Eichel’s neck injury was just dumb luck for Adams. He was able to use that as an excuse to trade him. Jack wanted out before the end of the prior season. 

Do you actually read this stuff before you hit submit? The neck injury that lowered his trade value was dumb luck?

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5 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Didn’t Adams say during his presser that he had a long talk with Dahlin at or around the deadline?

I don’t doubt Bisonette was told what he was told, or that Dahlin expressed frustration during that meeting with the state of the team, or that Dahlin is being truthful in his quotes this morning.

Sounds like a bit of game of telephone going on here.

Dahlin tells Adams he isn't happy with the state of the team and wants help improving results.

Someone leaks Dahlin isn't happy

the Bisonnette decides to infer he wants out

Hence Dahlin's vehement denial of asking to leave rather than just claiming the whole thing was false.

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I seriously doubt Dahlin told GM Sheevyn he wants out if things aren't fixed. That's standard content-saturation sensationalism.

But I don't doubt that in their conversations he's expressed frustration with GM and ownership about wasting years and talents of players and the need to continuously improve. Dahlin has one hockey lifetime to be the best he can be, and this present hockey lifetime it is impossible to be the best you can be on the Sabres. (And that's not because Dahlin occasionally makes turnovers like every other puckhandling NHL defenseman makes turnovers.)

I want my captain pushing leadership to improve.

"We [the players] won't get another shot at this, Admiral [the owner]." so to speak. 

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From Bluesky…..

If we learned anything from the Eichel experience…

Stage 1 - People talk about if he could get traded and we laugh it off

Stage 2 - Other fan bases/media start writing about what it would take to get him, we yell he’s not getting traded

Stage 3 - He’s actually available

Think we’re in Stage 1.

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fwiw a close friend of mine who played with him in Sweden has told me the same thing... actually i'm mildly surprised it's taken this long for this info to get out. 

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