So Did Adams Face The Press Today?

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

Yeah, posting tóo much, but the national media in 2 countries were hyping big moves by Kevyn (It's Kevin, damn the "y") Listen, Adams may be a good guy, or a Smithers (at this point, I'm leaning towards the latter), but he was saying big moves, silently acknowledging to NHL media, no didn't happen. Cozens trade was a wash... The rest, meaningless, I thought the Lindy factor moving Cozens would move pieces. Not!. Was just curious if Adams spoke with palm trees in the background of Sunrise FL, and if Terry drove down from Boca and said, your going home on Spirit Air out of Lauuderdale (which in it's self is hell on earth, Damn you Spirit Airlines). 

Edited Friday at 10:18 PM by Standing Room Smoking Cigs
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[LGR4GM]

He had a press conference

Edited yesterday at 12:07 AM by LGR4GM

[Thorner]

😔

“I’m gonna fix it”

Edited yesterday at 12:45 AM by Thorner

[Archie Lee]

I thought it was a bit tone deaf. 

He spoke well. The media certainly did not hold his feet to the fire. He acknowledged he has to do better, and that was what he presented as the solution: he needs to do better.  He spoke about the team needing to be harder to play against, but nobody followed up with “how did today’s moves help with that?”.  He said Ruff is still trying to teach them to play the right way (I’m paraphrasing).  All in all, he came across (to me) like a GM who is not at all worried about his job, whose team just fell a bit short, and who thinks he and the rest of the team just need to get a bit better. 

I foresee yet more pain. 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, Archie Lee said:

I thought it was a bit tone deaf. 

He spoke well. The media certainly did not hold his feet to the fire. He acknowledged he has to do better, and that was what he presented as the solution: he needs to do better.  He spoke about the team needing to be harder to play against, but nobody followed up with “how did today’s moves help with that?”.  He said Ruff is still trying to teach them to play the right way (I’m paraphrasing).  All in all, he came across (to me) like a GM who is not at all worried about his job, whose team just fell a bit short, and who thinks he and the rest of the team just need to get a bit better. 

I foresee yet more pain. 

This part was inane: 

 

“I can be better at saying: You know what, we are doing this today.” 
 

what? 

[Archie Lee]

Also, he sees us as a cap team, or “right there”, next year. As I mentioned in the Zucker thread, just modest extensions for our RFAs takes us to the cap. There is no room to add a meaningful player this off-season without moving out a significant contract. And, as Adams has let us know many times, making a trade and negotiating a contract “is hard”.  

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[Thorner]

1 minute ago, Archie Lee said:

Also, he sees us as a cap team, or “right there”, next year. As I mentioned in the Zucker thread, just modest extensions for our RFAs takes us to the cap. There is no room to add a meaningful player this off-season without moving out a significant contract. 

Really? I haven’t been following the cap all that closely 

so we’ve had all this space, and now it’s all gone just by keeping what we have? 

What a waste 

[Archie Lee]

And that’s without really breaking the bank on Peterka, McLeod, or Byram (no overpays). 

[Archie Lee]

The part that briefly had me burying my head in my hands, was when he was talking about roster construction and wondered aloud if he might get Power a better partner. 

[jahnyc]

Unfortunately, I expect that Adams will be back and Sabres will make no meaningful moves with their front office or coaching staff.  That Adams was able to re-sign Greenway and Zucker and then trade Cozens supports this.  If the Sabres were going to bring in a new GM, the message to Adams from ownership would be to do nothing at the trade deadline or with regard to re-signing players with expiring contracts.

Can't really fathom how they can bring Adams back with his complete failure as the GM, but it seems likely that they will.

[Flashsabre]

How F%#£ing stupid are the players? Still teaching them how to play in March😂. I coached competitive rep hockey and our system was in place in 2 weeks and everyone knew how we played. What a crock of 💩 😂😂😂

That’s like being a school teacher and saying “The kids are still trying to find where their seats are” in March.

Edited yesterday at 01:59 AM by Flashsabre

[Forecheck]

2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

Also, he sees us as a cap team, or “right there”, next year. As I mentioned in the Zucker thread, just modest extensions for our RFAs takes us to the cap. There is no room to add a meaningful player this off-season without moving out a significant contract. And, as Adams has let us know many times, making a trade and negotiating a contract “is hard”.  

I also see them as a crap team next year. Oh, CAP team. My bad. Carry on Kevyn. 

[Archie Lee]

1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:

How F%#£ing stupid are the players? Still teaching them how to play in March😂. I coached competitive rep hockey and our system was in place in 2 weeks and everyone knew how we played. What a crock of 💩 😂😂😂

That’s like being a school teacher and saying “The kids are still trying to find where their seats are” in March.

I agree. There are lots of coaches with new teams this year, who got their systems in place pretty early. I reject that our players are incapable. 

[gilbert11]

6 hours ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Yeah, posting tóo much, but the national media in 2 countries were hyping big moves by Kevyn (It's Kevin, damn the "y") Listen, Adams may be a good guy, or a Smithers (at this point, I'm leaning towards the latter), but he was saying big moves, silently acknowledging to NHL media, no didn't happen. Cozens trade was a wash... The rest, meaningless, I thought the Lindy factor moving Cozens would move pieces. Not!. Was just curious if Adams spoke with palm trees in the background of Sunrise FL, and if Terry drove down from Boca and said, your going home on Spirit Air out of Lauuderdale (which in it's self is hell on earth, Damn you Spirit Airlines). 

The Hockey News did a scorecard of Cozens vs Norris and had it advantage Ottawa.   So why did Adams have to throw in a 2nd round pick?

[tom webster]

9 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

Also, he sees us as a cap team, or “right there”, next year. As I mentioned in the Zucker thread, just modest extensions for our RFAs takes us to the cap. There is no room to add a meaningful player this off-season without moving out a significant contract. And, as Adams has let us know many times, making a trade and negotiating a contract “is hard”.  

What are you talking about? They are going to have plenty of room to add to this roster.

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, tom webster said:

What are you talking about? They are going to have plenty of room to add to this roster.

Not unless they dump a forward and a couple defenders. They have, 13 forwards either signed or as RFAs this offseason. There's quite literally no room to add unless someone else gets subtracted. They have 6 defenders signed or as RFAs so they have room for 1 defensive signing. 

So unless Adams actually makes trades, this is the team for next year minus 1 defender. He can't add *****. 

[Archie Lee]

3 hours ago, tom webster said:

What are you talking about? They are going to have plenty of room to add to this roster.

They certainly have flexibility, if that is what you mean. This is because they have several pending RFA's, and none of the players they have under contract have meaningful trade protection (Dahlin's NMC kicks in July 1, I think). But then, I didn't say or imply that they have no flexibility.  I said they have no room to make a meaningful addition without moving out a larger contract.  

A few additional things in response:

- With Greenway and Zucker extended, the Sabres have no prominent UFAs. Their only current NHL players who are UFAs are Reimer and Bryson. 

- Aside from Byram's $3.8 million expiring deal, the Sabres have no bigger contracts coming off the books; and I assume for now that the intent is to extend Byram.

- The cap-hit on the Skinner buyout increases from $1.44 million to $4.44 million this coming year

- Per PuckPedia, the Sabres have 15 NHL players under contract for next season with a projected cap hit of $71.39 million; that includes Skinner's cap hit

- That leaves the Sabres with 8 roster spots to fill with 24.11 million in cap space

- RFA's are Peterka, McLeod, Quinn, Byram, and Bernard-Docker.

- AFP Analytics 25-26 contract projections puts the range for the extensions of these players, between $17.6 million and $22.4 million. My opinion is that they are low on their projections for McLeod and Peterka, and high on their projection for Quinn

- If you extend our RFA's with conservative projections, splitting the difference at $20 million, it leaves the Sabres with 20 roster spots filled and a cap hit of $91.39 million.  Add a goalie (Levi?) and a couple of 4th pairing D-men (Johnson and Bryson?) on low-level contracts and the Sabres are at $94 million  

 

As I stated, there is no room to add a meaningful player this off-season without moving out a prominent player or significant contract. The most certainly do not have "plenty of room to add to the roster", without moving existing players.

 

Edited yesterday at 01:54 PM by Archie Lee

[tom webster]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Not unless they dump a forward and a couple defenders. They have, 13 forwards either signed or as RFAs this offseason. There's quite literally no room to add unless someone else gets subtracted. They have 6 defenders signed or as RFAs so they have room for 1 defensive signing. 

So unless Adams actually makes trades, this is the team for next year minus 1 defender. He can't add *****. 

I meant cap room.

Even if they go crazy and give stupid contracts to their RFA’s they will still have $7/$8M available plus whatever player they subtract.

They will definitely add to the roster which obviously  means they will subtract as well.

[Archie Lee]

13 minutes ago, tom webster said:

I meant cap room.

Even if they go crazy and give stupid contracts to their RFA’s they will still have $7/$8M available plus whatever player they subtract.

They will definitely add to the roster which obviously  means they will subtract as well.

Then why not just say that?  

 

[PromoTheRobot]

12 hours ago, jahnyc said:

Unfortunately, I expect that Adams will be back and Sabres will make no meaningful moves with their front office or coaching staff.  That Adams was able to re-sign Greenway and Zucker and then trade Cozens supports this.  If the Sabres were going to bring in a new GM, the message to Adams from ownership would be to do nothing at the trade deadline or with regard to re-signing players with expiring contracts.

Can't really fathom how they can bring Adams back with his complete failure as the GM, but it seems likely that they will.

These moves do not guarantee Adams survives. They had to be made and nothing he did prevents a new GM from moving forward. The core is still here.

[CallawaySabres]

All they need to ask him is...the team that you have put together has been close to the worst, if not THE worst in the NHL for your entire tenure, why does the owner trust you to do anything right?

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

These moves do not guarantee Adams survives. They had to be made and nothing he did prevents a new GM from moving forward. The core is still here.

Of course, nothing is guaranteed about Adams employment status. However, if I were a betting man I would place my bet on the owner sticking with the current GM, unless there is an end of season collapse. Assuming that he remains on the job, the next obvious question is what moves will be made in the offseason to shake up the roster or will he stand pat? I really don't know what the upper staff is thinking and considering. What's bothersome to me regardless of what the roster makeup is, it seems that the players are not responding to the coaching. That's troubling.  There is a lot of talk about shaking up the player room. Maybe there should more discussion about shaking up the coaching room. They are not getting through to the players.  

[Night Train]

Playing out the season and then hoping for a miracle this summer.

That should produce results at the ticket office and in the standings.  

Only a sale of the team can change things now, IMO.  Current owner is tone deaf but he seems to need $ for his football stadium. 

[PromoTheRobot]

11 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Of course, nothing is guaranteed about Adams employment status. However, if I were a betting man I would place my bet on the owner sticking with the current GM, unless there is an end of season collapse. Assuming that he remains on the job, the next obvious question is what moves will be made in the offseason to shake up the roster or will he stand pat? I really don't know what the upper staff is thinking and considering. What's bothersome to me regardless of what the roster makeup is, it seems that the players are not responding to the coaching. That's troubling.  There is a lot of talk about shaking up the player room. Maybe there should more discussion about shaking up the coaching room. They are not getting through to the players.  

I think we are in the middle of an end of season collapse, no?

Players not responding to coaching is a problem and hard to comprehend. Especially when you have an icon like Lindy Ruff. Maybe Lindy just doesn't give a crap anymore? Maybe he's finally given up trying to understand how to coach younger players?

Like I said, nothing Adams did at the deadline precludes changes being made. Ruff needs to retire and the rest of the coaching staff needs an overhaul. Adams got more time than most GMs to turn the bus around. Maybe you at least look at Karmanos and Leone. 

[PromoTheRobot]

16 minutes ago, Night Train said:

Playing out the season and then hoping for a miracle this summer.

That should produce results at the ticket office and in the standings.  

Only a sale of the team can change things now, IMO.  Current owner is tone deaf but he seems to need $ for his football stadium. 

What exactly is it you want Terry to do?