Now move onto Pettersen...

[Carmel Corn]

1 hour ago, Drag0nDan said:

If you're going after Pettersson, i would have to think you'd move norris.  They get a center who's cheaper (but still overpaid) and gets them out of that pettersson contract, and he gets a change of scenery.  Buffalo would have to add in some stuff to make it work, maybe quinn or rosen.  

I'd have to think free agency plays out first, but i expect most of the centers stay pretty far from buffalo.  Anyone of value in their 30s is probably chasing a cup, so they probably don't answer the phone when Buffalo calls.  

IDK - I’d rather have both Petterson and Norris as a bonafide 1C and 2C.  Move TNT over to wing where he belongs and then let the other pieces fall into place with McLeod, Krebs, Kulich, etc.  Our top 2 lines would be much more dangerous along with much better puck handling and playmaking center men.

[mjd1001]

47 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

IDK - I’d rather have both Petterson and Norris as a bonafide 1C and 2C.  Move TNT over to wing where he belongs and then let the other pieces fall into place with McLeod, Krebs, Kulich, etc.  Our top 2 lines would be much more dangerous along with much better puck handling and playmaking center men.

It makes sense, but with that contract, I'd rather just keep Norris and hope he gets healthy and pass on Pettersson.  I think EP isn't getting moved at all now with his no-trade kicking in. If you wanted him, the deadline was the time. 

2 years ago, I posted someplace on this forum that Pettersson was on the verge of super-stardom. I was thinking top 10 player in the league. Whether through injuries or just my over-estimation, the only signs of him even being close to that now are the contract he signed.

Edited March 27 by mjd1001

[Flashsabre]

If the Leafs sign Marner and Knies then there is no room for Tavares.

Come follow in your Uncle’s footsteps on a 2 year deal John😁. He’s having a hell of a season

Edited March 31 by Flashsabre

[LGR4GM]

Nope. 

 

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

Petteson dream is over.

Marner? Only on NHL 2025 on PS5.

Adams sealed it on Saturday, expect more of the same and a small signing

[dudacek]

I'm thinking more and more like Pettersson to Buffalo has a real chance.

A real chance Van moves him because they think they have to, a real chance Buffalo takes him because they think they have to.

 

[shrader]

26 minutes ago, Palm Trees And Taxes said:

Petteson dream is over.

Marner? Only on NHL 2025 on PS5.

Adams sealed it on Saturday, expect more of the same and a small signing

So what you’re saying is that it will never happen since Adams is on an Xbox?

[Flashsabre]

They are going to do something crazy like EP40 and Demko for Norris, Byram and UPL. Salaries almost match up, apparently Norris and Hughes are good buddies, Byram is from  BC.

I could see it with Adams convincing Terry this is his big move to fix everything 

[dudacek]

8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

They are going to do something crazy like EP40 and Demko for Norris, Byram and UPL. Salaries almost match up, apparently Norris and Hughes are good buddies, Byram is from  BC.

I could see it with Adams convincing Terry this is his big move to fix everything 

Pettersson scares the crap out of me, but I don’t know if I’d call that crazy.

Whatever that does on the ice, it’s the sort of thing that’s needed off the ice to bring fan interest back to Buffalo and salvage the mess that is the Canucks room.

[Mr. Allen]

21 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

They are going to do something crazy like EP40 and Demko for Norris, Byram and UPL. Salaries almost match up, apparently Norris and Hughes are good buddies, Byram is from  BC.

I could see it with Adams convincing Terry this is his big move to fix everything 

I think I’d be happy with that trade. 

[PerreaultForever]

Don't underestimate Rutherford. I bet he will offer Pettersson plus to NJ for the Hughes brothers. 

[Flashsabre]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

I think I’d be happy with that 

 

16 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Pettersson scares the crap out of me, but I don’t know if I’d call that crazy.

Whatever that does on the ice, it’s the sort of thing that’s needed off the ice to bring fan interest back to Buffalo and salvage the mess that is the Canucks room.

Vancouver want a centre. I can see Carolina interested but they don’t have the centre to send back. Could the Rangers be interested if Vancouver was willing to take Zibanajed back. Doubt it.

Buffalo atleast makes sense. It would be a scary deal for sure but I’d roll the dice on Demko and I don’t know what to think of Norris so it would be a deal to atleast explore.

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Don't underestimate Rutherford. I bet he will offer Pettersson plus to NJ for the Hughes brothers. 

Been talking about this with my Canuck buddy who is hoping for the same thing.

My question is what can the Canucks tie to Pettersson to get them to give up Jack Hughes alone, let alone Jack and Luke?

Especially when evidence suggests the Devils can get Quinn for free in 2 years by playing the long game and keeping his brothers.

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

 

Vancouver want a centre. I can see Carolina interested but they don’t have the centre to send back. Could the Rangers be interested if Vancouver was willing to take Zibanajed back. Doubt it.

Buffalo atleast makes sense. It would be a scary deal for sure but I’d roll the dice on Demko and I don’t know what to think of Norris so it would be a deal to atleast explore.

I think Demko is fantastic: a rare real deal top 10 goalie who Sabres fans just don’t see enough of to judge.

That’s assuming he’s healthy and last year was a blip.

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I'm thinking more and more like Pettersson to Buffalo has a real chance.

A real chance Van moves him because they think they have to, a real chance Buffalo takes him because they think they have to.

 

It would be a mistake to take on his salary for a player whose style of play is a style of play that they want less of.(I'm aware that we would have to send back players with high contracts to make the deal work.) In order to work out a deal for him we would have to deal a combination of players such as Kulich, JJP, Quinn, Benson and Power. (Not all of them but at least 2-3 of them.) 

The Sabres have to make some moves this offseason to upgrade and re-configure the roster. Adding a player whose current organization is demanding greater effort on the defensive side of the game is not the add that the Sabres need. To this particular player I give a hard no. 

[Mr. Allen]

37 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Been talking about this with my Canuck buddy who is hoping for the same thing.

My question is what can the Canucks tie to Pettersson to get them to give up Jack Hughes alone, let alone Jack and Luke?

Especially when evidence suggests the Devils can get Quinn for free in 2 years by playing the long game and keeping his brothers.

Jersey is much more likely than Vancouver to collect all the Hughes. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Did anyone get the impression that Adams and Ruff think they need a top line center?  Assuming Adams remains at GM, I don't see them acquiring a center.  Adams is happy he got Norris.

If the Sabres field a spine of Norris, Kulich, McLeod and Kozak/Krebs, the team will have a very good two way group of centers.  I know that is going to piss off some posters here but that is the truth.  Ruff was very specific on Kulich's ability as a rookie to play an excellent two way game.  He pointed out how well Kulich played against other teams' top centers.  McLeod's credentials as a two way player were proven this year and Norris has a 5 year track record of being solid defensively, excellent in the FO circle and the ability to score (when healthy).  People here keep complaining that we don't have enough good two way players, but that "fact" is changing for the better, as Kulich, Benson, McLeod, and now Norris spearhead that change.  

Would I like a more dynamic playmaker over Norris as our top line center.  Yes, I would, but with Adams in charge I don't see that happening anymore.  Sorry.

PS, I'm worried about Petterson's healthy.  He doesn't seem as dynamic a player since his knee injury.

Edited Monday at 08:05 PM by GASabresIUFAN

[Pimlach]

EP in Buffalo is going to be a mistake.  The Canucks are telling us he is not a complete player.  He is Skinner but he plays center, not wing.   

[Sabres73]

As I've stated here before, as a Vancouver resident, getting EP would be an absolute disaster for the Sabres.

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Don't underestimate Rutherford. I bet he will offer Pettersson plus to NJ for the Hughes brothers. 

The "plus' in that would have to be something even more valuable than Pettersson.

Jack Hughes also has injury issues, but when he is healthy I think he is a better player than Pettersson, certainly one that is more of a 'game changer'.  And asking for his brother also? That is a heavy lift.

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

It would be a mistake to take on his salary for a player whose style of play is a style of play that they want less of.(I'm aware that we would have to send back players with high contracts to make the deal work.) In order to work out a deal for him we would have to deal a combination of players such as Kulich, JJP, Quinn, Benson and Power. (Not all of them but at least 2-3 of them.) 

The Sabres have to make some moves this offseason to upgrade and re-configure the roster. Adding a player whose current organization is demanding greater effort on the defensive side of the game is not the add that the Sabres need. To this particular player I give a hard no. 

I betcha the Sabres could get EP40 without any of those players.

This is a player you'd have to pay $11.6M for the next 7 years. He was at the middle of a dressing room collapse. The fan base has turned on him. The coach and the front office have been very clear they are unhappy with him. He's been accused of poor training practices. He's coming off an injury that seems to have sapped his quickness. Oh, and there's that little thing about the 15-goal, 45-point season.

His value can't be any better than Jack Eichel's was in 2021. So Norris, Helenius, next year's 1st and this year's 2nd, give or take? I'd say less. The Norris/Byram package @Flashsabre proposed is 2 talented players just entering their primes that we know the Canucks like. That's probably your base right there and I think the Sabres would push for Willander for a lesser prospect to seal the deal.

I think the Canucks would take Power straight across in a heartbeat, but I doubt the Sabres would.

I think there's a very good case to be made for the Canucks to trade him for the highest draft pick offered and repurpose that $11.6M in cap space toward Mitch Marner or some other prominent free agent.

it's not "he's flawed" and "he will cost a ton if you are determined to buy him", it's "he's flawed" so "he won't cost a ton if the Canucks are determined to sell him."

But I agree, it's very much a buyer beware.

Edited Monday at 09:24 PM by dudacek

[Flashsabre]

I’d offer UPL+ for Demko

[HumanSlinky39]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

I'm thinking more and more like Pettersson to Buffalo has a real chance.

A real chance Van moves him because they think they have to, a real chance Buffalo takes him because they think they have to.

 

Hard pass on Pettersson. Who has woefully underproduced since signing that huge extension. He is extremely talented but has been horribly inconsistent throughout his career. He's also had high-profile locker room issues in VAN. Does that sound like the kind of player a struggling franchise that needs productive veteran help needs? Not to me.

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

EP in Buffalo is going to be a mistake.  The Canucks are telling us he is not a complete player.  He is Skinner but he plays center, not wing.   

I don't think they're really similar at all. Skinner was a solid producer on offense who treated playing defense like a nuisance. EP40 is a very skilled, but wildly inconsistent offensive player. The big difference is that he's actually been a pretty solid defensive forward most of his career. He got Selke votes in 2023 & 2024. Not sure if he will this year.

Edited Monday at 09:24 PM by HumanSlinky39

[dudacek]

2 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

I’d offer UPL+ for Demko

Pretty sure the Canucks are very happy to run Lankinen and Demko as a duo next year.

I think the plus would have to be better than UPL to change their minds.

[HumanSlinky39]

Demko has missed significant time due to injury in 3 of the last 5 seasons. Good goalie when he can play but with that injury history, it would be a HUGE risk counting on him.