Now move onto Pettersen...

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

Trade the prospects, send Byram and #1 in 2026, throw in Krebs or Benson. Don't wait for draft day deals. 

[#freejame]

Don’t do that

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

17 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Don’t do that

Why? We are stashing so many #1's in Rochester. We will stash another high end kid this year in a "bad draft year". Send the first rounder in '26 a good draft year. Krebs or Bensen are never going to be 100 pointers. Too small, they get muscled out, (I appreciate their play though). Kulich is literally the only player prospect I'd keep now. 

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[Brawndo]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Carolina flips the assets it gets for Rantanen to Vancouver for Petterson 

[HumanSlinky39]

Trading for Pettersson...anything for Pettersson...would be a disaster. 

He's a headcase who got paid superstar money for what amounts to about an 18 month stretch of superstar-level play then saw his productivity completely evaporate after he got paid. He disappeared in the playoffs last season and was a total no-show for the 4 Nations. He openly feuded with JT Miller and has a history of pouting and sulking. How, pray tell, does adding a player with THAT resume help a terrible team?

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[LGR4GM]

14 minutes ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Why? We are stashing so many #1's in Rochester. We will stash another high end kid this year in a "bad draft year". Send the first rounder in '26 a good draft year. Krebs or Bensen are never going to be 100 pointers. Too small, they get muscled out, (I appreciate their play though). Kulich is literally the only player prospect I'd keep now. 

Well first, the top of this draft is not "bad" at all. It is better than what the top of 2021 was, that's for sure. The issue with this draft is more where the good players run out, aka how many will be 1st and 2nd round grades. Most draft give you about 60 players but this might be closer to low 50s after it is all done. When people (pundits) talk about drafts and tell you they are bad, they do a lousy job of explaining what that means. The top 4 in this draft (Buffalo may get one) and the top 4 in the last 2 draft would be on par, granted we could argue that Celebrini or Bedard would still be atop the list, I don't think Schaefer, Misa, Hagens, and Martone are somehow unworthy of 2nd or 3rd in those 2 drafts with guys like Carlsson, Fantilli and certainly above Levshunov and Sennecke. 

Second part... most players are not 100pointers. In fact Tage Thompson isn't even that. Trading Zach Benson because he's 19 and you don't care that he is small is silly at best and just dumb at worst. Zach Benson is the 4th youngest NHL player this year. He won't hit his peak for another 3-4 years, so giving up on him now is bonkers considering what he can already do. 

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[Flashsabre]

No to EP40. They would want a centre back for him anyways

[mjd1001]

Cozens is gone, a Center (who is scoring a LOT more than Pettersson is) is on the way back.  I'm good with no EP at this point.

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

12 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Trading for Pettersson...anything for Pettersson...would be a disaster. 

He's a headcase who got paid superstar money for what amounts to about an 18 month stretch of superstar-level play then saw his productivity completely evaporate after he got paid. He disappeared in the playoffs last season and was a total no-show for the 4 Nations. He openly feuded with JT Miller and has a history of pouting and sulking. How, pray tell, does adding a player with THAT resume help a terrible team?

Players who were good sulked how did that work out for next team. Paging Mr. Lafontaine (NYI).. Mr. Hasek (CHI)... Mr. O'Reilly (from BUF to STL)... Mr. Montreau (from  BUF to FLA). Don't include Sam, he actually said he would stay. Take a swing give us hope, hell it's been 14 years, if it doesn't work fine but at least there was that hope!

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[HumanSlinky39]

6 minutes ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Players who were good sulked how did that work out for next team. Paging Mr. Lafontaine (NYI).. Mr. Hasek (CHI)... Mr. O'Reilly (STL)... Mr. Montreau (FLA). Don't include Sam, he actually said he would stay. Take a swing give us hope, hell it's been 14 years, if it doesn't work fine but at least there was that hope!

That's a straw man. There are countless other examples that went the other way.  He is NOT the kind of player a franchise trying to claw it's way out of the basement trades for. And none of those players saw their production tank the way Pettersson's has. He's a bad hockey player right now. Do you honestly think he'd perk up after being traded to arguably the worst franchise in the sport?

Edited Friday at 06:14 PM by HumanSlinky39

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

I don't know but yes I'm going there, they need to do something, I never thought my Father's anniversary death date would coinside with the drought. These are suppose to be my salad days of watching my team in retirement. And I hate salad, just least try being bold...

[Sabres73]

Pettersson would be a massive, massive mistake

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[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

And don't forget we traded Peter McNab, he had a heck of career in Boston. Tage was stuck in STL, things changed for him. Just do something, things aren't working as is.

[Thorner]

26 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Cozens is gone, a Center (who is scoring a LOT more than Pettersson is) is on the way back.  I'm good with no EP at this point.

It was posted by Brawndo that the sabres tried to ship him for EP first, so we do know who Adams preferred 

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Trade the prospects, send Byram and #1 in 2026, throw in Krebs or Benson. Don't wait for draft day deals. 

Pettersson is not what this team needs.  

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

Then what do we need, A 'Legion of Doom' of the dead puck era? A 7 foot goalie outfitted with oversized equipment that out sizes the whole goal? Pettersen is seen as soft, point taken, but name me 100 players who have had a 100 point season since the post lockout of '03. Give me the early '80's Sabres, they sucked in the playoffs, but they played great games for the public. Apathy is prevalent.

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[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

And I did have make sure he did a 100 point season. Yeah that would have looked bad... Memory can fade🤣

[HumanSlinky39]

9 minutes ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

And I did have make sure he did a 100 point season. Yeah that would have looked bad... Memory can fade🤣

And the moment he signed his lucrative extension, his productivity evaporated. *Poof*, gone.

We don't need another headcase on this team.

[PotentPowerPlay21]

1 hour ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Trading for Pettersson...anything for Pettersson...would be a disaster. 

He's a headcase who got paid superstar money for what amounts to about an 18 month stretch of superstar-level play then saw his productivity completely evaporate after he got paid. He disappeared in the playoffs last season and was a total no-show for the 4 Nations. He openly feuded with JT Miller and has a history of pouting and sulking. How, pray tell, does adding a player with THAT resume help a terrible team?

Exactly right. Why do the Sabres need a skilled player with no grit or toughness who has no work ethic? They don't. He would be the cherry on top for Kevyn Adams disastrous term as GM. This is a horrible idea!!! Forget Petterson please.

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

6 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

And the moment he signed his lucrative extension, his productivity evaporated. *Poof*, gone.

We don't need another headcase on this team.

So by your reasoning, we will be a team of 23 players classified as JAG. Brilliant, but wait isn't that we have done sporadically for the last 14 years. Not mocking you, nor no aminosty, I'm just saying by now, you to take a swing, if it doesn't work, fine... We are use to that by now. 

[HumanSlinky39]

4 minutes ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

So by your reasoning, we will be a team of 23 players classified as JAG. Brilliant, but wait isn't that we have done sporadically for the last 14 years. Not mocking you, nor no aminosty, I'm just saying by now, you to take a swing, if it doesn't work, fine... We are use to that by now. 

Pettersson is a JAG being paid like a superstar...

 

It isn't as simple as "if it doesn't work, fine." If it doesn't work, you have an albatross contract with a NTC on the books for another 6 years.

Edited Friday at 07:28 PM by HumanSlinky39

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

Fair point, respect that, but what is your remedy of getting out of the drought?

Edited Friday at 07:30 PM by Standing Room Smoking Cigs

[SabresBillsFan]

Power for Patterson straight up, they both need a change of scenery and there is too many Patterson’s on the Canucks. But both are a mess.

[HumanSlinky39]

1 minute ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Fair point, respect that, but what is your remedy of getting out of the drought?

My remedy is simple but not easy. Fire the GM and hockey ops staff, hire an experienced POHO to come in, reshape the front office (including hiring an experienced/competent GM) and let him make a decision on the coaching staff and roster.

There's no easy fixes as far as the roster goes. Lot of weaknesses. But we have assets to make the moves to improve those. A new regime would have to make the decisions on who you keep and build around and who you move. I think we have the bare bones of a team that can eventually be quite good (TNT/Dahlin/Tuch/Kulich/Peterka), but they need to find pieces to surround them with.

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

7 minutes ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Power for Patterson straight up, they both need a change of scenery and there is too many Patterson’s on the Canucks. But both are a mess.

No although the cost is high and could see Power is a price to pay, but he is still growing, his metrics are high. Byram and a kid a price to pay, maybe a pick also, but Power is a kid still, give him time, Remember the Sens and Isles gave up on Chara.

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