Sabres Trade Dylan Cozens/Dennis Gilbert and 2026 2nd Round Pick to Ottawa for Josh Norris and Bernard Docker

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assess

1 minute ago, Thorner said:

as*ess being blocked is funny 

 

[Thorner]

Assess 

*****

Maybe I left off the second S 

[Thorner]

Anyways it’s an organization full of assess if they run it back 

[HumanSlinky39]

His last 10 games in OTT:

0 Goals, 4 Assists, -4

I've watched chunks of 2 of their games in that period, the same issues we saw here a recurring there.

It's looking less like a Cozens/Sabres problem and more like a Dylan Cozens problem.

[Weave]

47 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Assess 

*****

Maybe I left off the second S 

Dumb assess.  Allaya

[MattPie]

13 minutes ago, Weave said:

Dumb assess.  Allaya

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, Thorner said:

I don’t think so. It’s pretty close to 22-23 cozens considering how wonky plus minus is 

you arbitrarily chose the 11 game framing to begin with. 

 

17gp 3G 7A 10P -2 

Is not far from 22-23 cozens to my eye. Granted he’d need more like 13 points instead of 10. But considering sample size i see their framing as generous but not egregious 

I was reacting to a weekly power ranking designed to talk about current trends

The Athletic: 'Ottawa seems to have traded for the 2023 version of Cozens'

• That Cozens put up 31 goals and 68 points.
• Cozens had produced at a 14-goal, 48-point pace at that point as a Senator
• Cozens produced at 15-goal 41-point pace this year as a Sabre
• Cozens was producing at a 7-goal, 35-assist pace over the previous 2-3 weeks as a Senator

The Athletic statement would have held water for the first week or so of Cozens Ottawa stint, but it was not near the truth for his body of work as a whole, and it was blatantly false in terms of 'what have you done for me lately.'

They weren't framing things in a different way, they were wrong.

[Thorner]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I was reacting to a weekly power ranking designed to talk about current trends

The Athletic: 'Ottawa seems to have traded for the 2023 version of Cozens'

• That Cozens put up 31 goals and 68 points.
• Cozens had produced at a 14-goal, 48-point pace at that point as a Senator
• Cozens produced at 15-goal 41-point pace this year as a Sabre
• Cozens was producing at a 7-goal, 35-assist pace over the previous 2-3 weeks as a Senator

The Athletic statement would have held water for the first week or so of Cozens Ottawa stint, but it was not near the truth for his body of work as a whole, and it was blatantly false in terms of 'what have you done for me lately.'

They weren't framing things in a different way, they were wrong.

Ya I mean 11 games doesn’t fit the weekly designator, either - you still picked the total. 

imo his entire tenure there falls under “current”. Sample size is still tiny 

I’m not saying they are “right”, just that they aren’t focusing on all of the same metrics as you. Just today i was listening to the tsn beat reporter on tv talking about how cozens has had a “transformational”‘presence as evidenced in the record. They are using a lot of the “workhorse” terminology we used to: that’s probably the “2023” they are referring to: we used to attribute a ton to the effort cozens was putting on display “future leader” etc etc. 2023 was the vibes year. They are proclaiming that “energy” is there from DC

Edited Wednesday at 09:42 PM by Thorner

[dudacek]

8 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Ya I mean 11 games doesn’t fit the weekly designator, either - you still picked the total. 

imo his entire tenure there falls under “current”. Sample size is still tiny 

I’m not saying they are “right”, I just like to argue

 

 

 

 

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[ska-T Palmtown]

2 hours ago, dudacek said:

 

 

 

 

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Arguing on the internet with people who are very likely complete strangers is every person's god-given right! 😉 

[Doohickie]

16 hours ago, Thorner said:

Assess 

*****

Maybe I left off the second S 

Ass.

[Thorner]

***** is blocked tho 

Try it