Sabres Trade Dylan Cozens/Dennis Gilbert and 2026 2nd Round Pick to Ottawa for Josh Norris and Bernard Docker

[Thorner]

18 minutes ago, Stoner said:

So when traded, he was injured? And still played a few games?

Well, you are allowed to trade injured players. So I’d hazard to say if he was dealing with something we knew it. And that they played him anyways.. ya I imagine that happens. Doesn’t seem very smart 

[shrader]

2 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Well, you are allowed to trade injured players. So I’d hazard to say if he was dealing with something we knew it. And that they played him anyways.. ya I imagine that happens. Doesn’t seem very smart 

It’s almost as if they felt forced to play him right away to please the fans. That would be just plain stupid because it doesn’t matter one bit right now that he plays any of the remaining games of a lost season. 
 

I wonder if they may have sat him initially if Boris Becker, or whatever his name is, had been ready to go from day one. 

[Thorner]

8 minutes ago, shrader said:

It’s almost as if they felt forced to play him right away to please the fans. That would be just plain stupid because it doesn’t matter one bit right now that he plays any of the remaining games of a lost season. 
 

I wonder if they may have sat him initially if Boris Becker, or whatever his name is, had been ready to go from day one. 

Season ticket renewal szn, right? 

[sabremike]

So a comically inept and in over his head GM who was desperate and panicing made a forved ill advised trade that ended up a complete disaster in a weeks time. Stevie Wonder could've seen this coming.

[That Aud Smell]

1 minute ago, sabremike said:

Stevie Wonder could've seen this coming.

For sure, since he's not blind.

 

[Weave]

I thought it was addition by subtraction.  That makes Norris’ availability gravy, right?

 

smh

Edited March 14 by Weave

[DarthEbriate]

He has an injury history, but if he’d been recently injured before the trade, and wasn’t on Ottawa’s injury report, AND passed his Sabres physical…. Then I think you’d have a pretty angry NHLPA at the moment. Seems like it’s related to the Wings game. 

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

Are there any details on his injury?  Is everyone freaking out over a possible cold/flu?  

[thewookie1]

2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

He has an injury history, but if he’d been recently injured before the trade, and wasn’t on Ottawa’s injury report, AND passed his Sabres physical…. Then I think you’d have a pretty angry NHLPA at the moment. Seems like it’s related to the Wings game. 

Very true, if Ottawa and Norris theoretically hid his injury that would a major ordeal. 

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

22 hours ago, Second Line Center said:

Cozens another point tonight.  
 

It was all him tho.   

Said no one at any point ever

[shrader]

1 hour ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:

Are there any details on his injury?  Is everyone freaking out over a possible cold/flu?  

Is he even out at this point? Being evaluated on an off day, does it even matter yet?

[bunomatic]

Kevin Adams gonna Kevin Adams

[Pimlach]

8 hours ago, Thorner said:

What I was talking about, though. “If Norris stays healthy” analysis of the trade missed the mark to extent of near irrelevancy 

A functional aspect of the trade is that the player WE got only plays sometimes. That’s the trade 

And we gave up an extra 2nd rounder,  in a predicted to be strong 2026 draft.  

When we do we see the guy with 3 names?  

[SabreFinn]

8 hours ago, Pimlach said:

And we gave up an extra 2nd rounder,  in a predicted to be strong 2026 draft.  

When we do we see the guy with 3 names?  

Giving away second rounders for nothing is what Adams do.

[DarthEbriate]

1 hour ago, SabreFinn said:

Giving away second rounders for nothing is what Adams do.

He learned from GMTM -- got an extra 2nd? -- trade it for that fourth line winger.  (And D-Lo is still playing and I liked Fasching as a prospect... but come on! McNabb was a top-4 guy.)

[JohnC]

10 hours ago, Pimlach said:

And we gave up an extra 2nd rounder,  in a predicted to be strong 2026 draft.  

When we do we see the guy with 3 names?  

I read some evaluations of the trade from a few analysts. In general, it seems that it was an equitable deal for both teams. However, it was pointed out that the risk of the deal leans toward the Sabres because of Norris's injury history. As others are also noting, it was questioned why the Sabres gratuitously gave up a second-round pick? I'm not suggesting that our GM was outhustled in this deal. What I can say is that he didn't maximize his hand in this deal by unnecessarily giving up the second-round pick. With KA steering the ship, this franchise continues to remain stuck on the rocky shoals. 

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

15 hours ago, shrader said:

Is he even out at this point? Being evaluated on an off day, does it even matter yet?

That’s it.  Sabres definitely aren’t making the playoffs now 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Flashsabre]

Bernard Docker point per game RHD for Buffalo. We won the trade 😝😁

[mjd1001]

8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Bernard Docker point per game RHD for Buffalo. We won the trade 😝😁

I don't really know what to expect out of him.  I think he's basically on a tryout to see if he fits on the roster next year.

[shrader]

2 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I don't really know what to expect out of him.  I think he's basically on a tryout to see if he fits on the roster next year.

So you’re saying I might need to actually learn his name and stop calling him Boris Becker?

[Doohicksie]

Hot take:  The Sabres win the trade not because of Norris, but because Bernard-Docker becomes the steady, top 4 RHD the Sabres need, complementing whoever he pairs with, be it Dahlin, Power or Byram.  He becomes the glue that solidifies the Sabres' top four.

[Weave]

22 minutes ago, Doohicksie said:

Hot take:  The Sabres win the trade not because of Norris, but because Bernard-Docker becomes the steady, top 4 RHD the Sabres need, complementing whoever he pairs with, be it Dahlin, Power or Byram.  He becomes the glue that solidifies the Sabres' top four.

Yesterday’s game was the first I’ve watched in quite awhile. By my eye, Bernard-Docker looked pretty good.

[mjd1001]

22 minutes ago, Weave said:

Yesterday’s game was the first I’ve watched in quite awhile. By my eye, Bernard-Docker looked pretty good.

I need to see more obviously as many of us do. I didn't focus on him at all, but the little that I did notice him on the ice, it seemed like the team was chasing in their own end and allowing a few chances against when he was on the ice.  Again, its only 2 games and limited minutes, and even if that is true it might not be his fault.  Just I haven't noticed much positive yet...but i'm hopeful?

[thewookie1]

I'm starting to worry Norris's undisclosed injury is actually depression from being traded here and thus he moping around

[wsam4031]

nice to see here is Cozens playing well and shocking Norris has missed the last 5 games. wish i was suprised