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As I said in another thread, the minimum return for JJ must be a top 2nd pair RH D who can move up to first pair in a pinch when needed. The Rangers can’t satisfy that requirement. But KA will certainly settle for less. I don’t give a crap if JJ wants out or not, he’s a valuable asset that we control for the next several years. He can continue to play well for us as he auditions for impresses potential trade partners in the future. 

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8 hours ago, dudacek said:

The best reason for trading Peterka would be the return. 

Unlike most Sabres his value is at its apex. Unlike most Sabres the return for him might actually help.

Also, he’s the best of the bunch, but JJ is also the type of player - smallish quick, skilled, defensively poor winger - we have too many of.

So yes, culture change.

Now if only I trusted Adams to get the proper return

I’m glad someone said it. JJ’s defense is comically poor. No interest in putting the effort in to play defense.  He’s a wonderful offensive player but let’s not act like he doesn’t have warts. 

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1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

and as a RFA we have the right of first refusal. Again it makes little sense to move him unless as eluded he looking for too much money or has expressed that he doesn't want to be here. 

1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said:

My money is on the latter….GMKA may want him here, but JJP doesn’t….so Adams only wants guys who want to be in Buffalo.

57 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

It's actually one of the dumbest parts of Adams. Now all you have do is say "I don't want to be here" and poof! You're out. 

 

This "want to be here" stuff has to be eradicated from the culture.  Every player brought in should be expected to provide 100% effort and loyalty to the team to make the team successful.  Players that do not do that are currently being rewarded with this stupid "want to be here" policy.   If Peterka gets traded for this reason, even it is just one factor in the reason to trade him,  then it really is making the Sabres an NHL farm team under Adams.  

Think of the worst performing franchises ever - Seals, Barons/Rockies/Scouts, Flames/Thrashers, Coyotes, and the Sabres. 

Think of the least desirable geographical destinations. 

Did any of them ever have a strategy like this?  I don't think I ever heard these words before from any franchise going back over 55 years. 

Adams thinks he is creating unity but all he did is make the players think they are doing us a favor by signing to play for the team.   

Recall when Granato told the Buffalo media "some of these players signed long tern deals to be here" when asked about the booing at HSBC.  That was just days before Boston got booed and both Marchand and their coach said the Boston fans are right and the team deserved it.   

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49 minutes ago, _Q_ said:

delicious 

 

45 minutes ago, _Q_ said:

Sorry you are having a bad year.

Yet you responded "delicious" 

Thank you though, my father broke his hip so it has been a bit of a long year.

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6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

Yet you responded "delicious" 

Thank you though, my father broke his hip so it has been a bit of a long year.

Prayers for the both of ya.

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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

It's actually one of the dumbest parts of Adams. Now all you have do is say "I don't want to be here" and poof! You're out. 

Think Adams imagined he was creating a dynasty and players would want to be here.

He bought Dahlin and Thompson. He’s overpaid for Cozens, Power, and Samuelson. He kept UPL and Greenway.

If Zucker and JJ leave, he’s about to discover he was naive.

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One thing about Peterka is that he is prime offer sheet bait. Even at a bridge deal he will cost minimum 4.6 mil per year for what ever the term is. Any team that has their own 2nd round pick could poach him if we offer less. Is he worth losing for a first and a third?  There could be a team or two who would who could up the anti for a 1st a 2nd and a third at around 6.9 Mil per year. Would we match that? This rule while it helps the players is going to be regressive for bottom feeder teams like the Sabres. A second round pick late in the draft is not worth as much as a second round pick early in the draft. So if the better teams that have the picks and cap space why would they not take advantage of the rules. I expect we are going to see a lot more of this activity soon. 

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13 hours ago, ... said:

Agreed, but JJP is still under the Sabres' control. KA's attitude is going to require case-by-case flexibility in order to not dig the hole even deeper. In a circumstance like this, JJP has to perform if he expects to one day sign a good contract on a good team.

Which he has done. Is he a defensive stalwart? No. But, he's improved each season and has been slightly more consistent than last year (where he disappeared for a month; this year it's down to a week or so at a time). By his mid-20s he could be an all-around top 6 guy on any good/championship caliber team in the league.

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