OverPowerYou Posted yesterday at 12:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:07 PM Trade anyone and everyone not named Dahlin, Benson and Greenway 1 Quote
Archie Lee Posted yesterday at 12:57 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:57 PM (edited) 10 hours ago, Pimlach said: Habs are 10 points ahead of us, and second last in our division. Adam’s five year Report Card coming in April. It is going to be something. It is unfathomable that Pegula, and any of the small number of people around him who might have influence at this time (his kids, Guelli, Bettman), would find trotting Adams out for a trade deadline or season-ending press conference, anything but horrifying. It is not just that this season has not met expectations or that we came up a bit short; we have been lapped by Montreal, Columbus, Detroit, and Ottawa. Adams is no longer building something, he is squandering. It is not possible to have a worse outcome to a season relative to expectations. The organization will retain zero credibility, if Adams returns in his present role. Edited yesterday at 12:59 PM by Archie Lee 2 4 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM 2 minutes ago, Archie Lee said: It is unfathomable that Pegula, and any of the small number of people around him who might have influence at this time (his kids, Guelli, Bettman), would find trotting Adams out for a trade deadline or season-ending press conference, anything but horrifying. It is not just that this season has not met expectations or that we came up a bit short; we have been lapped by Montreal, Columbus, Detroit, and Ottawa. Adams is no longer building something, he is squandering. It is not possible to have a worse outcome to a season relative to expectations. The organization will retain zero credibility, if Adams returns in his present role. I’m not excited about the trade deadline. I have no desire to see Adams trade the few desirable veteran pieces like Greenway or Zucker for futures. Then try and fail to replace them in the offseason. 2 4 Quote
phil_soisson Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM 10 hours ago, KC Scouts said: Beats me.....I don't think anyone knows No palm trees. Quote
mjd1001 Posted yesterday at 01:42 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:42 PM (edited) 10 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Have those trades improved the team? Are we closer to the playoffs this year compared to last? That is not all about trades. That is also about overall roster construction, development, drafting, free agents signings or lack of. This team needs changes. There is no way I'm going to say 'don't make any trades because I'm upset at the GM....when that is what this team needs....and the end result of the reign of this GM probably has more to do recently with all those other things than trades. There might, MAYBE be a move out there that will improve this team. Its doesn't make sense to me to say that I don't want any trades to be made because I don't like the guy pulling the trigger in a blanket statement, where you might miss that available move. Edited yesterday at 01:48 PM by mjd1001 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted yesterday at 01:43 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:43 PM 29 minutes ago, Pimlach said: I’m not excited about the trade deadline. I have no desire to see Adams trade the few desirable veteran pieces like Greenway or Zucker for futures. Then try and fail to replace them in the offseason. I actually don’t think he will trade either of them (I do think he should though). This cursed hockey organization believes they are still close to the promised land and will dig in their heels to try and prove it. GMKA will be back next year and future head coach Seth Appert will take over after Ruff is done. I hate this organization and what it’s done to its fans. 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted yesterday at 01:57 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:57 PM 15 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: That is not all about trades. That is also about overall roster construction, development, drafting, free agents signings or lack of. This team needs changes. There is no way I'm going to say 'don't make any trades because I'm upset at the GM....when that is what this team needs....and the end result of the reign of this GM probably has more to do recently with all those other things than trades. There might, MAYBE be a move out there that will improve this team. Its doesn't make sense to me to say that I don't want any trades to be made because I don't like the guy pulling the trigger in a blanket statement, where you might miss that available move. Adams hasn't improved the team. Winning individual trades is irrelevant in that context. 1 hour ago, OverPowerYou said: Trade anyone and everyone not named Dahlin, Benson and Greenway Terrible idea 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted yesterday at 02:02 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:02 PM 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Adams hasn't improved the team. Winning individual trades is irrelevant in that context. Terrible idea Again, its not about if he has improved the team overall. I'm not talking about the big context. I'm talking about the people who are saying "no trades" because I don't like Adams being in charge of the trades. If a trade is there that would help the team, I want it made. Simple. No over-analysis beyond that needed. Quote
Believer Posted yesterday at 02:02 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:02 PM No excuses next season. The Sabres must get some playoff experience. We need a veteran RHD and a Center and Forward with playoff experience. We are wasting Tuch and Thompson’s early prime years. It will soon be demotivating to them and Dahlin, imo. If GMKA doesn’t act, it will speak volumes to me. Quote
LGR4GM Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM 38 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Again, its not about if he has improved the team overall. I'm not talking about the big context. I'm talking about the people who are saying "no trades" because I don't like Adams being in charge of the trades. If a trade is there that would help the team, I want it made. Simple. No over-analysis beyond that needed. What trade has Adams made that's helped the team? Greenway? I suppose Byram cuz Mitts went to hell. I think McLeod was someone else pushing that along impo. My guess Karmanos and analytics. Quote
steveoath Posted yesterday at 02:42 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:42 PM Adams Out. He cannot be in charge of trades at this point. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM 10 hours ago, thewookie1 said: The scariest part of 7D is that Byram looks scatterbrained when with anyone aside Dahlin. Makes me concerned about Byram’s value Does this really surprise you? The Sabres have one defenseman; one! His name is Dahlin. Not one other player on our blueline group can actually player defense. It doesn’t help that the forwards have no clue how to support the D, but outside of Dahlin, none of the so called D are positionally sound or make good decisions with the puck. Hard to win that way. Quote
CallawaySabres Posted yesterday at 03:24 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:24 PM 16 hours ago, HOUSE said: I remember when the games in March actually mattered for the Sabres. Funny thing is I barely do….which is even more shocking 1 1 Quote
CallawaySabres Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Can Elon Musk please add Adams to the email list? 5 1 Quote
OverPowerYou Posted yesterday at 04:05 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:05 PM (edited) 38 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said: Can Elon Musk please add Adams to the email list? 5 things he’s accomplished 1: alienate the fanbase 2. Create a toxic workplace environment 3. Trade away his best players 4. Draft rookies instead of signing or trading for veterans 5. Some type of blackmail on Pegula. What else could it be? Edited yesterday at 04:05 PM by OverPowerYou 2 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted yesterday at 04:20 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:20 PM 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: What trade has Adams made that's helped the team? Greenway? I suppose Byram cuz Mitts went to hell. I think McLeod was someone else pushing that along impo. My guess Karmanos and analytics. Additionally, Adams was unwilling to include Savoie in a trade for Chychrun. But a season and a draft later, Benson, Helenius, and Östlund's arrival made him tradeable. Quote
klos1963 Posted yesterday at 04:47 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:47 PM 4 hours ago, OverPowerYou said: Trade anyone and everyone not named Dahlin, Benson and Greenway ??? What has Benson accomplished? He should be in the minors. 1 1 Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM 2 hours ago, Believer said: No excuses next season. The Sabres must get some playoff experience. We need a veteran RHD and a Center and Forward with playoff experience. We are wasting Tuch and Thompson’s early prime years. It will soon be demotivating to them and Dahlin, imo. If GMKA doesn’t act, it will speak volumes to me. We said all of this 12 months ago. This organization is good at one thing - kicking the can down the road. 2 Quote
Sidc3000 Posted yesterday at 05:05 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:05 PM 3 hours ago, Believer said: No excuses next season. The Sabres must get some playoff experience. Adams basically said that for this season and look at where they are. The answer is in the room 🙄 2 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted yesterday at 05:36 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:36 PM I was watching on the plane from LV last night. Lo-res picture but at least I was getting the game with plane wifi. Sabes are slipping back into bad habits at the wrong time. When they came out of the 4 Nations break, they had to go 21-7 to get to 91 points. Unlikely but not impossible. They certainly couldn't afford back-to-back losses. Losing to CAR and MTL pretty much does them in. At least they did this BEFORE the trade deadline. Quote
JohnC Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago 5 hours ago, mjd1001 said: That is not all about trades. That is also about overall roster construction, development, drafting, free agents signings or lack of. This team needs changes. There is no way I'm going to say 'don't make any trades because I'm upset at the GM....when that is what this team needs....and the end result of the reign of this GM probably has more to do recently with all those other things than trades. There might, MAYBE be a move out there that will improve this team. Its doesn't make sense to me to say that I don't want any trades to be made because I don't like the guy pulling the trigger in a blanket statement, where you might miss that available move. I have a different view. It makes a lot of sense to make a blanket statement that I don't want this incompetent GM (selected by the owner) to make any moves, especially significant moves. When one has been on the job for five years and has demonstrated one's incapacity to improve and construct a logical roster that is competitive, then it makes sense to let the season run out as is and allow someone who is capable enough to assess one's roster and be intelligently involved in the hockey marketplace. If I were supposed to have surgery and learned that the doctor who was scheduled to perform it was incompetent, you bet that I would postpone the surgery and further explore better options to perform it. 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: I have a different view. It makes a lot of sense to make a blanket statement that I don't want this incompetent GM (selected by the owner) to make any moves, especially significant moves. When one has been on the job for five years and has demonstrated one's incapacity to improve and construct a logical roster that is competitive, then it makes sense to let the season run out as is and allow someone who is capable enough to assess one's roster and be intelligently involved in the hockey marketplace. If I were supposed to have surgery and learned that the doctor who was scheduled to perform it was incompetent, you bet that I would postpone the surgery and further explore better options to perform it. But you would have to make the decision to postpone it. I have no confidence that Pegula wants to make that decision and can Adams. Quote
JohnC Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: But you would have to make the decision to postpone it. I have no confidence that Pegula wants to make that decision and can Adams. In all probability, KA is going to make some moves just to show that he is doing something. However, I don't want him making any major trades that in all likelihood would set this franchise back even further. The owner made a ridiculous decision to hire this ill-equipped individual to be his GM. The silent owner has kept him on the job for five years. His inglorious record is beyond being abysmal. Enough is enough. Quote
Pimlach Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, klos1963 said: ??? What has Benson accomplished? He should be in the minors. Agree. I like the Benson a lot but he still does not have an NHL shot, which keeps him on the 4th line playing with less skilled players. Another B-I-G Adams screw up letting the roster get so devoid of NHL veteran players (right after stating they we going to make a playoff run) that an 18 year old Benson could outplay the others and earn a spot. But Benson did earn it because there were "no blockers". Adams didn't bring in a guy to replace Quinn when he had the Achilles. 1 1 Quote
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