So Who's Gone A Week From Tomorrow?

[Crusader1969]

Anyone else who won't be disappointed if Tuch is traded away? 
for every good play he makes there seems to be a negative one to offset it 

His shot Couldn' hit the broad side of a barn consistently.    His passes are often either miss all together or in players skates.    
Obviously played the MTL goal, to put them ahead with 2 seconds to go, very poorly and was called out by Dahlin and Ruff

his contract is one more year.  IF you can trade him as part of a package for a top 4 RHD or 1C.   You have to do it

sign him back in a year when he is a UFA if you want.  As long as he's a 3rd liner who kills penalties and not on the ice on PP1 or on 6-5 situations where you are down by 1 

[Jorcus]

1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said:

Anyone else who won't be disappointed if Tuch is traded away? 
for every good play he makes there seems to be a negative one to offset it 

His shot Couldn' hit the broad side of a barn consistently.    His passes are often either miss all together or in players skates.    
Obviously played the MTL goal, to put them ahead with 2 seconds to go, very poorly and was called out by Dahlin and Ruff

his contract is one more year.  IF you can trade him as part of a package for a top 4 RHD or 1C.   You have to do it

sign him back in a year when he is a UFA if you want.  As long as he's a 3rd liner who kills penalties and not on the ice on PP1 or on 6-5 situations where you are down by 1 

 

So you want to trade the guy who is 2nd place of all forwards in the NHL in blocked shots, 4th place of all forwards for takeaways, Tied for 38th in goals scored. He also plays in all situations. He has more goals than people like Jack Eichel, Brad Marchand, Mitch Marner among other big names. So exactly what name are you looking for in return? He is top 6 all day long and every GM would take him for that position I am certain. 

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

Anyone else who won't be disappointed if Tuch is traded away? 
for every good play he makes there seems to be a negative one to offset it 

His shot Couldn' hit the broad side of a barn consistently.    His passes are often either miss all together or in players skates.    
Obviously played the MTL goal, to put them ahead with 2 seconds to go, very poorly and was called out by Dahlin and Ruff

his contract is one more year.  IF you can trade him as part of a package for a top 4 RHD or 1C.   You have to do it

sign him back in a year when he is a UFA if you want.  As long as he's a 3rd liner who kills penalties and not on the ice on PP1 or on 6-5 situations where you are down by 1 

Alex Tuch:    Games 58,  Goals 22,  Assist 24,  Points 46,  PIMs = 31,   + 13

In my opinion this is who he is and he is consistently a top player for this team.  

He is the best overall winger on the team.  A good leader.  He stands up for his teammates.   He plays hard.  He can play both PP and PK.  He plays a solid  two way game on top of it.  

Sure trade Tuch.  Keep trading our best players.   Great idea because plenty of teams will want him.  You might get a top 4 RHD but then you have yet another massive hole on the already WEAK top 6. 

Despite the team sucking again, and the coaching being sub standard again, and the GM being incompetent, and the owner absent and clueless, lets scapegoat Alex Tuch - a player that actually deserves to be in the NHL and carries his weight and then some.  

Great idea! 

 

 

[Crusader1969]

54 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Alex Tuch:    Games 58,  Goals 22,  Assist 24,  Points 46,  PIMs = 31,   + 13

In my opinion this is who he is and he is consistently a top player for this team.  

He is the best overall winger on the team.  A good leader.  He stands up for his teammates.   He plays hard.  He can play both PP and PK.  He plays a solid  two way game on top of it.  

Sure trade Tuch.  Keep trading our best players.   Great idea because plenty of teams will want him.  You might get a top 4 RHD but then you have yet another massive hole on the already WEAK top 6. 

Despite the team sucking again, and the coaching being sub standard again, and the GM being incompetent, and the owner absent and clueless, lets scapegoat Alex Tuch - a player that actually deserves to be in the NHL and carries his weight and then some.  

Great idea! 

 

 

That's the whole problem , he is a 3rd line winger playing too high in their lineup

perfectly fine as a 3rd liner and PKer 

Not a   PP1.  Good on Ruff for realizing that and moving him off the unit 

and shouldn't be out there on 6-5 situations. 
 

if you can trade a 3rd line winger as the main piece for a top 4 RHD or 1C.  You do it.  

[Crusader1969]

2 hours ago, Jorcus said:

 

So you want to trade the guy who is 2nd place of all forwards in the NHL in blocked shots, 4th place of all forwards for takeaways, Tied for 38th in goals scored. He also plays in all situations. He has more goals than people like Jack Eichel, Brad Marchand, Mitch Marner among other big names. So exactly what name are you looking for in return? He is top 6 all day long and every GM would take him for that position I am certain. 

Yep.  For a Top 4 D or a 1C.  
you are acting like I think they should trade him for a bag of peanuts

[mjd1001]

4 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

Anyone else who won't be disappointed if Tuch is traded away? 
for every good play he makes there seems to be a negative one to offset it 

His shot Couldn' hit the broad side of a barn consistently.    His passes are often either miss all together or in players skates.    
Obviously played the MTL goal, to put them ahead with 2 seconds to go, very poorly and was called out by Dahlin and Ruff

his contract is one more year.  IF you can trade him as part of a package for a top 4 RHD or 1C.   You have to do it

sign him back in a year when he is a UFA if you want.  As long as he's a 3rd liner who kills penalties and not on the ice on PP1 or on 6-5 situations where you are down by 1 

I would be disappointed.

I think he is a lot better than you make out in your post.  

Next to Dahlin and Tage, he would be 2rd on the list of getting me to think/say "WTH are you doing as a franchise anyway" if he was traded.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Here are the guys I've seen in rumors or on trade boards

1) Cozens - A, B, C, D, E, G

2) JJP - B

3) Tuch - B, F, G

4) Byram - A, B, C, D

5) Greenway - A

6) Quinn - B

7) Jokiharju - C

8.) Zucker - C, D

9) Power - D

10) Samuelsson - G

 

Sources

A. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6157029/2025/02/25/nhl-trade-board-rantanen-schenn-jones/

B. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/sources-sabres-phones-buzzing-with-interest-in-j-j-peterka-who-joins-trade-targets-board

C. https://www.thefourthperiod.com/mar-2025/sabres-looking-to-trade-jokiharju

D. https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2025-x4

E. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-for-sabres-dylan-cozens/

F. https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/nhl/news-nhl-trade-rumors-multiple-teams-including-tampa-bay-lightning-eyeing-33-250-000-buffalo-sabres-star

G. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/real-kypers-trade-board-4-0-why-the-blues-are-open-for-business/

 

Other Notes:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32-thoughts-what-will-jets-capitals-do-at-the-nhl-trade-deadline/  - Sabres trying to extend Greenway

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/insider-trading-what-s-the-market-for-jake-evans-joel-armia-1.2260839 

" Sabres are dead last in the conference, so it's no surprise that the vultures are circling right now. What's the talk out of Buffalo?
 
Dreger: It feels like it's been the same for the last few months anyway, hasn't it? When you're looking at Dylan Cozens or Bowen Byram and add Alex Tuch's name to the list more recently. But, look, there's interest in all three of those guys. They're all key players for the Buffalo Sabres, but there is no offer that resembles anything close that Kevyn Adams would take to consider moving one of those pieces. So, that's going to have to change. There's time for it to change. There's interest. There's need around the National Hockey League. So, it is possible but the offers and the interest are going to have to elevate in a big way for Kevyn Adams to move a player - any of those players given their significance."

https://athlonsports.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/price-forward-dylan-cozens-deadline-trade-report

"The Buffalo Sabres continue to field trade calls for Dylan Cozens, but any team hoping to acquire him will have to meet a high asking price. 

The Fourth Period's David Pagnotta discussed Buffalo’s stance during a Sirius XM NHL Network segment on Wednesday, emphasizing that general manager Kevyn Adams is not interested in moving Cozens for draft picks or prospects alone.

“From Buffalo’s perspective, they don’t just want to give (Cozens) away for futures (draft picks and prospects),” Pagnotta said. “If they’re going to do something, it’s going to be a hockey-type trade, talent for talent."

 

[Pimlach]

14 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

That's the whole problem , he is a 3rd line winger playing too high in their lineup

perfectly fine as a 3rd liner and PKer 

Not a   PP1.  Good on Ruff for realizing that and moving him off the unit 

and shouldn't be out there on 6-5 situations. 
 

if you can trade a 3rd line winger as the main piece for a top 4 RHD or 1C.  You do it.  

His stats show he is a solid 2nd line winger.  If he is 3rd line you have a top 4 team in the league. 

No interest in trading him.  Trade Samuelsson and Cozens instead. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Pimlach

[shrader]

10 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

Yep.  For a Top 4 D or a 1C.  
you are acting like I think they should trade him for a bag of peanuts

That’s an offseason move. They’re not finding that return this week. 

[Jorcus]

10 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

Yep.  For a Top 4 D or a 1C.  
you are acting like I think they should trade him for a bag of peanuts

 

No, I don't want to trade him at all. Our right wing is a weak spot in our line up and trading Tuch would just make that worse. I am looking for a name you would trade him for. Someone you consider 4D or 1C that you think is available.

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

His stats show he is a solid 2nd line winger.  If he is 3rd line you have top 4 team in the league. 

No interest in trading him.  Trade Samuelsson and Cozens instead. 

I actually like Tuch but I dont want to be hypocritical, he isnt a generational talent like Dahlin and I am in the we lose with you we can lose without you mentality... so I have no issue trading Tuch for the right return... problem is at this juncture you are not going to get a right return... the team trading for Tuch is looking for a moderately gritty larger body that can take a 2 or 3 line Wing as they make a push for the playoffs... they are not looking to devoid themselves of game changing talent or firepower in the process...  unless you have a team that is so overloaded on D that they are willing to part with a top 4 Dman... then you might get a player. But how many playoff teams are parting with top 4 Dman before the playoffs... so... to me... (as with any trade you make) you are getting a pick and a prospect... rinse wash repeat... 

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, JP51 said:

I actually like Tuch but I dont want to be hypocritical, he isnt a generational talent like Dahlin and I am in the we lose with you we can lose without you mentality... so I have no issue trading Tuch for the right return... problem is at this juncture you are not going to get a right return... the team trading for Tuch is looking for a moderately gritty larger body that can take a 2 or 3 line Wing as they make a push for the playoffs... they are not looking to devoid themselves of game changing talent or firepower in the process...  unless you have a team that is so overloaded on D that they are willing to part with a top 4 Dman... then you might get a player. But how many playoff teams are parting with top 4 Dman before the playoffs... so... to me... (as with any trade you make) you are getting a pick and a prospect... rinse wash repeat... 

No player on this team is a generational talent.  Dahlin is a top 6 defenseman in the league, maybe, sometimes.

No one is trading a top 4 D or a 1C man right now unless its a poor team looking to make major moves. A real hockey trade that bundles players in a big deal is usually a post season deal.  

Trading Tuch is trading one of the few leaders and glue pieces we have.  They need to acquire another guy like Tuch, not trade away  the one we have.  

I submit that if we flip Tuch at the deadline we will loose more than we gain, but maybe our savvy GM proves me wrong?  Lots of teams will be interested in sending us a prospect they are giving up on, and/or a pick.  That strategy has failed in the past.  

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Pimlach

[JP51]

47 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

No player on this team is a generational talent.  Dahlin is a top 6 defenseman in the league, maybe, sometimes.

No one is trading a top 4 D or a 1C man right now unless its a poor team looking to make major moves. A real hockey trade that bundles players in a big deal is usually a post season deal.  

Trading Tuch is trading one of the few leaders and glue pieces we have.  They need to acquire another guy like Tuch, not way trade the one we have.  

I submit that if we flip Tuch at the deadline we will loose more than we gain, but maybe our savvy GM proves me wrong?  Lots of teams will be interested in sending us a prospect they are giving up on, and/or a pick.  That strategy has failed in the past.  

 

Aside from Dahlin (which I am not sure I totally disagree with you, on the generational thing) We are thinking the exact same thing... if they trade Tuch unrealistic that they are getting anything more than an expendable player, picks and prospects for him because whomever is trading for him is look to improve on a playoff run... they are not breaking their team down... so unless the player is expendable not happening...  

With respect TO Tuch, agreed, I like him and we could use several like him... but I am not going to preclude trading him if we make our team instantly better... like he is a piece of a package that we trade away to get the superior player...  At this point our hockey trades should be TO obtain the superior player, not hope for the future... 

With respect to player for pick and prospect... I think that is the likely outcome of this trade season... it will be a mistake to use this strategy as a rebuilding plan... rinse wash repeat... but our GM and dysfunctional organization is likely to do this...  from my perspective with players that we should resign like Greenway and Zucker but know that they are not going to do it.... so they will trade them away so they can be successful elsewhere and we will get a faint hope for them that may or may not payoff somewhere in the future because  we are that inept...

With respect to Dahlin... I see him as better than a top 6 2nd or 3rd pairing D... but thats just me... 

 

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

Aside from Dahlin (which I am not sure I totally disagree with you, on the generational thing) We are thinking the exact same thing... if they trade Tuch unrealistic that they are getting anything more than an expendable player, picks and prospects for him because whomever is trading for him is look to improve on a playoff run... they are not breaking their team down... so unless the player is expendable not happening...  

With respect TO Tuch, agreed, I like him and we could use several like him... but I am not going to preclude trading him if we make our team instantly better... like he is a piece of a package that we trade away to get the superior player...  At this point our hockey trades should be TO obtain the superior player, not hope for the future... 

With respect to player for pick and prospect... I think that is the likely outcome of this trade season... it will be a mistake to use this strategy as a rebuilding plan... rinse wash repeat... but our GM and dysfunctional organization is likely to do this...  from my perspective with players that we should resign like Greenway and Zucker but know that they are not going to do it.... so they will trade them away so they can be successful elsewhere and we will get a faint hope for them that may or may not payoff somewhere in the future because  we are that inept...

With respect to Dahlin... I see him as better than a top 6 2nd or 3rd pairing D... but thats just me... 

 

When healthy, I think Dahlin can be a top 10 Defenseman in the league. When healthy, Tage is a top 10 scorer in the league (he currently is the best 5-on-5 scorer per 60 in the entire league.)  You don't trade either of them.

As far as anyone else besides Cozens, probably not unless its a super great deal.  With this team not making the playoffs this year, they SHOULD fall into the category of 'sellers', and most of the national media/rumors put them into that category. But traditionally, 'sellers' are teams that are failing and looking to get assets to rebuild. That is NOT this team.

[JP51]

20 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

When healthy, I think Dahlin can be a top 10 Defenseman in the league. When healthy, Tage is a top 10 scorer in the league (he currently is the best 5-on-5 scorer per 60 in the entire league.)  You don't trade either of them.

As far as anyone else besides Cozens, probably not unless its a super great deal.  With this team not making the playoffs this year, they SHOULD fall into the category of 'sellers', and most of the national media/rumors put them into that category. But traditionally, 'sellers' are teams that are failing and looking to get assets to rebuild. That is NOT this team.

I agree... no more trades for prospects etc... the only way I accept that is if the plan is to blow it up... but if that were the case why is Adams still here and in charge of assets... 

[sabresouth]

Can we just trade ka for half of a bag of pucks😆

[JP51]

Just now, sabresouth said:

Can we just trade ka for half of a bag of pucks😆

Sure I will send KA and a half bag of puck to whom ever wants him... I might even throw in a mid range pick!  no higher than a 4 though.... 

[Crusader1969]

4 hours ago, Jorcus said:

 

No, I don't want to trade him at all. Our right wing is a weak spot in our line up and trading Tuch would just make that worse. I am looking for a name you would trade him for. Someone you consider 4D or 1C that you think is available.

The weak spot in the lineup is 2nd pair RHD and it's not close 

[Crusader1969]

Say Tuch is the piece that pries EP out of Vancouver, maybe you add Krebs and next seasons 1st rounder? 

exactly what you got for Eichel 

 

[LTS]

9 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

Say Tuch is the piece that pries EP out of Vancouver, maybe you add Krebs and next seasons 1st rounder? 

exactly what you got for Eichel 

 

No thank you.  EP does not need to be here.  Period.

[Crusader1969]

6 minutes ago, LTS said:

No thank you.  EP does not need to be here.  Period.

Yes he does scare me but I'm willing to risk it if I'm only giving up Tuch, Krebs and a first.  
the payoff could be huge.  

[LTS]

17 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

Yes he does scare me but I'm willing to risk it if I'm only giving up Tuch, Krebs and a first.  
the payoff could be huge.  

The Sabres get worse with that trade simply by losing Tuch.  EP can score, maybe.  With his durability and longevity in question it's really way too much of a risk.  Tuch makes some odd plays but he's very good at what he does and he's the kind of player the Sabres would trade out to a team who will go on to win and people will be lamenting that he's gone.

At some point you actually have to commit to a core and he should be on it.  I've blasted him enough in the past about not using his size to play more physical but I can't take away his stat line and that he's net positive player for this team. (not +/-)

That said.. the Sabres aren't a team that will fix itself at the trade deadline. The players the Sabres need aren't being sold off by the better teams and the sellers at the deadline are sellers for a reason.

It's off-season for the Sabres to improve.

[HumanSlinky39]

45 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

Say Tuch is the piece that pries EP out of Vancouver, maybe you add Krebs and next seasons 1st rounder? 

exactly what you got for Eichel 

 

Tuch is a productive player who could be on his way to his second 30 goal season in 3 years. He's a locker room leader and actually seems like he wants to be here. Petterrson is a headcase who has caused friction in his own locker room, is prone to disappearing for very long stretches and is being paid like a top-10 player in the league long term. Granted, Petterson is very talented, but that is horrible risk/reward.

Edited 10 hours ago by HumanSlinky39

[Crusader1969]

19 minutes ago, LTS said:

The Sabres get worse with that trade simply by losing Tuch.  EP can score, maybe.  With his durability and longevity in question it's really way too much of a risk.  Tuch makes some odd plays but he's very good at what he does and he's the kind of player the Sabres would trade out to a team who will go on to win and people will be lamenting that he's gone.

At some point you actually have to commit to a core and he should be on it.  I've blasted him enough in the past about not using his size to play more physical but I can't take away his stat line and that he's net positive player for this team. (not +/-)

That said.. the Sabres aren't a team that will fix itself at the trade deadline. The players the Sabres need aren't being sold off by the better teams and the sellers at the deadline are sellers for a reason.

It's off-season for the Sabres to improve.

Let's not forget Tuch is a UFA after next season.   No guarantee he resigns or Sabres get a home team discount 

at this point all options , including trading away a popular player, needs to be on the table 

as for EP, he wasn't able to train last off season.   You have to feel comfortable that a full offseason of training gets him back to his potential

i dont think I'm going out on a limb here and saying EP at his potential is greater than AT at his highest potential 

[dudacek]

52 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

Say Tuch is the piece that pries EP out of Vancouver, maybe you add Krebs and next seasons 1st rounder? 

exactly what you got for Eichel 

 

Alex Tuch is better player than Elias Pettersson right now and has been all season. Anyone saying differently has not watched the Canucks play very often.

Tuch’s counting stats are pretty much identical to Brady Tkachuk’s and his analytics are better.

I think he’s the latest to fall victim to “Sam Reinhart syndrome” around here: the old “we don’t win so our top players aren’t good” thinking.

I do think that Tuch is much more of a potential flight risk than Bowen Byram in terms of the potential for long-term signing: older guy more cognizant of the limited time he has left in pro hockey, with more leverage in terms of dictating where he goes and how much you’ll have to pay to keep him.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved in that context.

And Jim Rutherford would take Tuch straight across for Petersson’s contract, play, and attitude in a heartbeat right now. I guarantee it.