So Who's Gone A Week From Tomorrow?

[SABRES 0311]

5 hours ago, Weave said:

I don’t think I want to see any players moved at the deadline.

My rationale:

1. We won’t be buyers, so there I don’t expect pleasant surprises. If we are buying, I am interested.

2. They need to keep these young players focused on winning. It needs to be the expectation.  Moving guys like Zucker shows the players that the team is still not committed to a message that winning is the priority.

3. Sellers typically get picks/prospects back as buyers are not looking to move valuable roster players.  We have enough picks/prospects and our timeline should not be a picks/prospects timeline.

4. I want the team to save its ammo for the offseason, when real hockey trades are better made.

Having said that, if our FAs tell Adams they aren’t sure they will re-sign, I accept that we probably need to move them for whatever value we can get.  But I will grouse about it because this team still needs to focus on winning games now.

So a possible indicator of who wants to be here is who remains after the deadline.

[Sidc3000]

Basically no one if Adams keeps it up. 

[Weave]

1 minute ago, SABRES 0311 said:

So a possible indicator of who wants to be here is who remains after the deadline.

If we knew how KA’s thought process works I would agree.

Alas……

[Sidc3000]

2 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

So a possible indicator of who wants to be here is who remains after the deadline.

Not necessarily. Adams could purposely overvalue the players that teams are inquiring about

[wsam4031]

9 hours ago, CallawaySabres said:

I would not care if any player on this entire team, besides Dahlin, was traded.

I want an entirely new lineup next year, start over. This team is so far beyond fixable And  they are 13 points from the last playoff spot? 
 

I did not think it was possible, but this lineup looks worse than last year. Rebuild is not even the proper term, they have to blow this thing up so much that we can’t even recognize the team next season.

agreed

[EM88]

9 hours ago, CallawaySabres said:

I would not care if any player on this entire team, besides Dahlin, was traded.

I want an entirely new lineup next year, start over. This team is so far beyond fixable And  they are 13 points from the last playoff spot? 
 

I did not think it was possible, but this lineup looks worse than last year. Rebuild is not even the proper term, they have to blow this thing up so much that we can’t even recognize the team next season.

I slightly disagree. There are exceptions to most apparent rules

In most metrics, goals for vs goals allowed, possession, high danger chances, plus-minus, there has been a whole list of them posted on this forum, the current roster is equal to or in many cases somewhat better than they have been last year.

How is that possible?Jack Quinn. Dylan Cozens.  A drop off in play from your goaltending.

In most other ways other than those 3 things, this team is an above average team. A team that scores more than they allow. A team that is equal to or better than last year.  It is just those 3 players, mostly the first two, that have sunk the team this year compared to previous seasons.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Possibly the remaining fans?

[Carmel Corn]

6 hours ago, msw2112 said:

Unless they have a handshake deal saying "I'll trade you to a contender so you have a shot at a Cup, but you'll re-sign with us next season," I don't see the point of trading the likes of Greenway and Zucker.  The team needs veteran players who can play and lead and has a shortage of them.  These two guys are among the few that they have.  As many have stated above, the likelihood of a mid-round draft pick (or really any draft pick outside of the 1st and maybe 2nd round) making an impact at the NHL level is minimal.  The Sabres already have plenty of draft picks and development prospects.  They're better off waiting for the offseason to re-tool the roster and making player for player trades at that time.  Contending teams looking to add for a playoff run are typically not giving up good players, they're dealing future assets (draft picks and prospects) for "now" assets.  The Sabres don't need any more future assets.

It’s professional sports, meaning it’s a business.  You don’t let assets get away without anything in return.  I agree that this team needs more veterans, but unless you’re willing to overpay Greenway and Zucker….they’re not coming back.  Letting them walk away for nothing is poor asset management.  More draft picks may not be what we need, but they are better than getting nothing at all.

[7+6=13]

10 hours ago, Weave said:

I don’t think I want to see any players moved at the deadline.

My rationale:

1. We won’t be buyers, so there I don’t expect pleasant surprises. If we are buying, I am interested.

2. They need to keep these young players focused on winning. It needs to be the expectation.  Moving guys like Zucker shows the players that the team is still not committed to a message that winning is the priority.

3. Sellers typically get picks/prospects back as buyers are not looking to move valuable roster players.  We have enough picks/prospects and our timeline should not be a picks/prospects timeline.

4. I want the team to save its ammo for the offseason, when real hockey trades are better made.

Having said that, if our FAs tell Adams they aren’t sure they will re-sign, I accept that we probably need to move them for whatever value we can get.  But I will grouse about it because this team still needs to focus on winning games now.

This is 100% the answer, IMO.

[Slack_in_MA]

Can you believe we're having this same discussion for this many years? Preaching to the choir, I know. 

[GoPuckYourself]

I just don’t see much happening. We are in need of roster players not draft picks at this stage. I doubt playoff teams want to give up actual players.

[PerreaultForever]

You're a bottom feeder team so any good GM makes offers to anybody he wants to keep and then they take them or they don't. If they don't, you move them at the deadline for whatever you can get and then if you want to you can circle back to them in July. You most definitely do not keep a UFA who remains unsigned because he said he'd like to stay or something. That's dumb. If he wants to stay, and you want him, sign him now. 

KA however is not a good GM. 

[Broken Ankles]

9 hours ago, rickshaw said:

Don’t make calls or answer any. Ride this out. Get new GM in summer and retool from there.

April 18th is still spring.  Dude needs to be gone the morning after the Sabres season ends.  

[Flashsabre]

Cozens for Rossi🤪

Guerin wants the size down the middle, Adams wants someone who is a good centre. Reunites him with junior teammate Quinn.

Ruff pairs Rossi with Benson so people on this board’s heads explode😁🤣

[The Jokeman]

Greenway, Cozens, Joker and Samuelsson should all be moved IMO. I'd love a top 4 RHD to pair with Power on the second pair. Maybe a veteran #2 Goalie to share time with UPL or mentor Levi next seasons. A 3rd line Center who can lead be a strong penalty killer. I'm also okay moving on from Quinn if get a NHL player back but don't want him gone as much as the first 4.

Edited 13 hours ago by The Jokeman

[Pimlach]

Joker could fetch a 2nd rounder so maybe him. 
 

Conner Clifton.  Why isn’t he playing?   He was listed with illness.   Is he wanting out?  Could he be moved?  
 

[_Q_]

50 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Joker could fetch a 2nd rounder so maybe him. 
 

Conner Clifton.  Why isn’t he playing?   He was listed with illness.   Is he wanting out?  Could he be moved?  
 

Clifton hasn't played since the 8th of Feb.  Weird.

[JoeSchmoe]

I'd move Byram because he's not worth whatever we have to pay him.

Sign everyone else, because we're sure to lose any other trade anyways.

[HumanSlinky39]

No Joker tonight. They working on something with him?

Likely more draft picks. Yay.

[Ross Rhea]

Get rid of the whole team and promote all the Amerks to Buffalo, can't be worse.

[Mr. Allen]

8 hours ago, Ross Rhea said:

Get rid of the whole team and promote all the Amerks to Buffalo, can't be worse.

Oh yes it can

[steveoath]

Adams should be out by Friday

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, steveoath said:

Adams should be out by Friday

He should have been out during the 13 game skid.  Sadly he isn’t going anywhere.  
 

The shopping list won’t change even with a new GM unless Adams or his eventual successor makes the right decisions.  The needs though are obvious.  This list: 1) 2 RHD stay at home D for the top 4. 2) A top 6 playmaker, preferably a center. 3) More physical players.  It’s really not a long list, but accomplishing it will be difficult.  It will involve moving on from some young highly drafted players like Cozens, Byram or Power.  It will involve moving picks or prospects for NHL players and it will involve buying out or retaining money from bad contracts like Samuelsson.  It also may involve having a GM being able to sell vets with NTCs/NMCs on his vision for the future.  No way on G-ds green Earth does Adams have the skills and the guts to do what must be done. 

Edited Sunday at 04:11 PM by GASabresIUFAN

[DarthEbriate]

8 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He should have been out during the 13 fame skid.  Sadly he isn’t going anywhere.  

Pegula still hasn't publicly stated that EEE is over. Adams will be the GM for as long as the owner is happy with the communication.

In the Pegula era, the on-ice product has never been the cause of removing the GM. Maybe Regier could be argued, but they're purposefully tanking, so getting a new GM is simply part of tearing things down and setting a new beginning.

Edited Sunday at 04:08 PM by DarthEbriate

[Crusader1969]

On 3/1/2025 at 1:48 PM, Pimlach said:

Joker could fetch a 2nd rounder so maybe him. 
 

Conner Clifton.  Why isn’t he playing?   He was listed with illness.   Is he wanting out?  Could he be moved?  
 

Unfortunately he came back last night    Didn't go to well