Season Ticket Renewal Notices

[PromoTheRobot]

11 hours ago, Pimlach said:

 

Haven’t heard any such thing about closing boarders. I plan on visiting Vancouver and Victoria in June, and Southern Ontario in July-August.  I love going to Canada. 
 

 

I'm seeing a show in Montreal in two weeks. My wife and I are a little concerned about what we may be dealing with in Canada and crossing the border.

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I'm seeing a show in Montreal in two weeks. My wife and I are a little concerned about what we may be dealing with in Canada and crossing the border.

The Canadians will be warm and hospitable toward you. The problem isn't how they will treat you as how they have been treated by our current government through changing policies (tariffs) and demeaning comments. (Not being political---simply stating facts.)

[Pimlach]

9 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The Canadians will be warm and hospitable toward you. The problem isn't how they will treat you as how they have been treated by our current government through changing policies (tariffs) and demeaning comments. (Not being political---simply stating facts.)

Ehhh, I want to believe you but what I witnessed first hand is tension right now.  Now I get what some of the Canadian posters here were saying about the importance of the 4 Nations games, which in the US is now long an afterthought.  

I just spent several weeks in Florida  - Fort Meyers, Tampa, and St Augustine. 

Just like you hear and see Canadians citizens saying "willing to fight" and the new PM saying "drop the gloves" on the silly American TV news, there was animosity down in Florida.  I visited friends in two separate snow bird communities and heard all about the outspoken Canadians that are bashing the US and some being extremely vocal and challenging about it.  I heard Americans replying with comments like "they should just stop coming down here then".   

Not good.  Never, ever, have I seen or heard this before.  

[PromoTheRobot]

This is not going to help.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/2025/03/15/canadian-woman-returns-home-after-being-detained-by-u-s-immigration-officials

 

[SwampD]

48 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Ehhh, I want to believe you but what I witnessed first hand is tension right now.  Now I get what some of the Canadian posters here were saying about the importance of the 4 Nations games, which in the US is now long an afterthought.  

I just spent several weeks in Florida  - Fort Meyers, Tampa, and St Augustine. 

Just like you hear and see Canadians citizens saying "willing to fight" and the new PM saying "drop the gloves" on the silly American TV news, there was animosity down in Florida.  I visited friends in two separate snow bird communities and heard all about the outspoken Canadians that are bashing the US and some being extremely vocal and challenging about it.  I heard Americans replying with comments like "they should just stop coming down here then".   

Not good.  Never, ever, have I seen or heard this before.  

He really is the gift that just keeps giving.

[Derrico]

Pretty tough on this side hearing constant threats of losing Canadian sovereignty and actively attempting to tank the economy with tarrifs to be coerced.  I haven't seen Canadians this pissed or united in my lifetime.  Canadians and Americans have similar cultures.  We have been best friends for generations.  This sucks.  

Back to the Sabres focus - I am very curious to see what impact this (hopefully temporary) shift in relations will have on the season ticket base.  Combined with another disappointing season, I think we're going to see a major dropoff in season ticket sales for next year.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Ehhh, I want to believe you but what I witnessed first hand is tension right now.  Now I get what some of the Canadian posters here were saying about the importance of the 4 Nations games, which in the US is now long an afterthought.  

I just spent several weeks in Florida  - Fort Meyers, Tampa, and St Augustine. 

Just like you hear and see Canadians citizens saying "willing to fight" and the new PM saying "drop the gloves" on the silly American TV news, there was animosity down in Florida.  I visited friends in two separate snow bird communities and heard all about the outspoken Canadians that are bashing the US and some being extremely vocal and challenging about it.  I heard Americans replying with comments like "they should just stop coming down here then".   

Not good.  Never, ever, have I seen or heard this before.  

When you get kicked in the balls don’t expect a congenial response.

[Porous Five Hole]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I'm seeing a show in Montreal in two weeks. My wife and I are a little concerned about what we may be dealing with in Canada and crossing the border.

Border crossing at the falls this weekend was normal and no one cared that i had NY plates on my car. 

[Pimlach]

30 minutes ago, JohnC said:

When you get kicked in the balls don’t expect a congenial response.

You just said they will be "warm and hospitable".   Now you say don't expect a congenial response.  Ok.  

 

Image of "Pimlach visiting Victoria, BC"  

[JohnC]

41 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

You just said they will be "warm and hospitable".   Now you say don't expect a congenial response.  Ok.  

 

Image of "Pimlach visiting Victoria, BC"  

I’m confident that PTR and his wife will be treated well. That doesn’t mean that the Canadians are going to feebly respond when provoked. There are plenty of ugly Americans in the US. The PTR clan doesn’t fall in that unappealing group.

Edited March 16 by JohnC

[In The Buff]

this onslaught against Canada should sadden us all. And if we don't like what is happening, we all need to make our voices heard... because it could get far worse & none of us should want that.  But its impact on season ticket holders will depend largely on how far our very stable genius of a President takes it.

If things stay similar to how they are now, perhaps we'll just see a 10%-25% reduction. That number will increase as the severity of actions increase. But...

Since Trump hasn't taken military force off the table & how there are some in his team that would support it... If we saw American armored columns cross the border, they would be met on the QEW with Javelin missiles. Canada is well armed & just like the American people, they would not accept losing their sovereignty to an invader. We will not be welcomed as liberators thats for sure, because we would be the illegal imperialist aggressor. We would be Russia invading Ukraine... except in America's case, invading her closest ally. 

So if that all sounds insane, i'm glad you still are thinking rationally. But if this occurs, season ticket numbers would obviously tank. Along with whatever remained of our dignity.

[PromoTheRobot]

19 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Border crossing at the falls this weekend was normal and no one cared that i had NY plates on my car. 

Good to hear that.

[PromoTheRobot]

19 hours ago, JohnC said:

I’m confident that PTR and his wife will be treated well. That doesn’t mean that the Canadians are going to feebly respond when provoked. There are plenty of ugly Americans in the US. The PTR clan doesn’t fall in that unappealing group.

I love Canada. I learned Oh Canada as a boy in Buffalo. I used to ride my bike over the Peace Bridge and peddle to Crystal Beach.

Aside from the show I was also hoping to bring a case of Unibroue beers with me. I hope they don't give me crap at the border coming back.

[PromoTheRobot]

17 hours ago, In The Buff said:

this onslaught against Canada should sadden us all. And if we don't like what is happening, we all need to make our voices heard... because it could get far worse & none of us should want that.  But its impact on season ticket holders will depend largely on how far our very stable genius of a President takes it.

If things stay similar to how they are now, perhaps we'll just see a 10%-25% reduction. That number will increase as the severity of actions increase. But...

Since Trump hasn't taken military force off the table & how there are some in his team that would support it... If we saw American armored columns cross the border, they would be met on the QEW with Javelin missiles. Canada is well armed & just like the American people, they would not accept losing their sovereignty to an invader. We will not be welcomed as liberators thats for sure, because we would be the illegal imperialist aggressor. We would be Russia invading Ukraine... except in America's case, invading her closest ally. 

So if that all sounds insane, i'm glad you still are thinking rationally. But if this occurs, season ticket numbers would obviously tank. Along with whatever remained of our dignity.

We should all ask ourselves why this is happening. Not just the threats to Canada but all of it. Who does this benefit? Who reaps the biggest reward from a weakened America?

[pastajoe]

23 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I'm seeing a show in Montreal in two weeks. My wife and I are a little concerned about what we may be dealing with in Canada and crossing the border.

I found in the past that the biggest issue some in Montreal had with us was that we didn’t speak French.

We vacation at the Jersey shore almost every summer. There’s always plenty of Ontario and Quebec license plates in Wildwood. I’ve read that there have been numerous reservation cancellations this year.

I heard a serious political commentator say yesterday that they wouldn’t be surprised if US troops get stationed on the border by next year as an intimidation tactic.

 

[Pimlach]

18 hours ago, In The Buff said:

this onslaught against Canada should sadden us all. And if we don't like what is happening, we all need to make our voices heard... because it could get far worse & none of us should want that.  But its impact on season ticket holders will depend largely on how far our very stable genius of a President takes it.

If things stay similar to how they are now, perhaps we'll just see a 10%-25% reduction. That number will increase as the severity of actions increase. But...

Since Trump hasn't taken military force off the table & how there are some in his team that would support it... If we saw American armored columns cross the border, they would be met on the QEW with Javelin missiles. Canada is well armed & just like the American people, they would not accept losing their sovereignty to an invader. We will not be welcomed as liberators thats for sure, because we would be the illegal imperialist aggressor. We would be Russia invading Ukraine... except in America's case, invading her closest ally. 

So if that all sounds insane, i'm glad you still are thinking rationally. But if this occurs, season ticket numbers would obviously tank. Along with whatever remained of our dignity.

I would put an "agree" on this but the stuff about military force and Javelins and invasions is way over the top.  It is also not accurate.  But yes, most Americans do not like the Canada/Mexico rhetoric that came out under this new regime.   

First, there are no special subsidies given to Canada that I can find anywhere.  Right now the US has a large trade imbalance that needs to be fixed, coupled with massive debt.  There is no doubt that US has been on the wrong end of tariffs for way too long, even with Canada/Mexico.  So I agree that fair trade should be addressed but I just wish it was by someone that can be diplomatic and not throw crazy ideas out to the media.  

I did some research and Trump was part of the USMCA, the current trade agreement that replaced NAFTA in 2020.  Nothing in the USMCA changed under Biden to my knowledge.   So whatever Trump still does not like about the USMCA that he signed could have addressed in normal and private negotiations.  

More tit for tat ...  Canada and Portugal are strongly considering dropping procurement of the highly advanced F-35 Fighter made in the US by Lockheed Martin.   This is bad for the US, bad for NATO, and bad for the USAF and the US Navy since Foreign Military Sales serve to not only strengthen allies but also  lowers the unit cost of the aircraft for everyone.  

Yes, the fact that I am having to think about this stuff does appear insane to me.  

 

[Derrico]

3 hours ago, pastajoe said:

I heard a serious political commentator say yesterday that they wouldn’t be surprised if US troops get stationed on the border by next year as an intimidation tactic.

 

While this is still unlikely, its far from out of the question.  Hence why I'm not renewing my season tickets.  Way too much risk without even considering what the CAD/USD conversion is when I would be paying the majority of the invoice this summer. 

[sabremike]

4 hours ago, pastajoe said:

I found in the past that the biggest issue some in Montreal had with us was that we didn’t speak French.

We vacation at the Jersey shore almost every summer. There’s always plenty of Ontario and Quebec license plates in Wildwood. I’ve read that there have been numerous reservation cancellations this year.

I heard a serious political commentator say yesterday that they wouldn’t be surprised if US troops get stationed on the border by next year as an intimidation tactic.

 

Who is this "serious political commentator" because they sound like anything but?

[Crusader1969]

On 3/16/2025 at 10:04 AM, JohnC said:

The Canadians will be warm and hospitable toward you. The problem isn't how they will treat you as how they have been treated by our current government through changing policies (tariffs) and demeaning comments. (Not being political---simply stating facts.)

I can 100% guarantee you will be welcome in Canada

Canadians, like myself, have zero issue with Americans. Our anger is directed at one man and his closest allies 

it's an unfortunate that people have reservations about visiting Canada and vice versa

my only advice to any American coming into Canada is not to wear a MAGA hat or any paraphernalia with Trump on it.

I hope you enjoy your show!  
 

 

[Crusader1969]

On 3/16/2025 at 10:39 AM, Pimlach said:

Ehhh, I want to believe you but what I witnessed first hand is tension right now.  Now I get what some of the Canadian posters here were saying about the importance of the 4 Nations games, which in the US is now long an afterthought.  

I just spent several weeks in Florida  - Fort Meyers, Tampa, and St Augustine. 

Just like you hear and see Canadians citizens saying "willing to fight" and the new PM saying "drop the gloves" on the silly American TV news, there was animosity down in Florida.  I visited friends in two separate snow bird communities and heard all about the outspoken Canadians that are bashing the US and some being extremely vocal and challenging about it.  I heard Americans replying with comments like "they should just stop coming down here then".   

Not good.  Never, ever, have I seen or heard this before.  

Please keep in mind that we are extremely hurt by the rhetoric coming from the White House and angry as hell about the lies he keeps repeating.
not to get too into it but personally I take great offence to Trump saying Canada has treated US very unfairly and that the US subsidizes us $200 billion a year 

it's not a subsidy , it's a trade deficit. Huge difference 

And the 200 or 300 % on dairy / butter is only after a quota is reached.  The policy aims to level the playing field since the US subsidizes their farmers to a much much greater extent than Canadians.  
As I always say, if this is over milk, how much milk does he think Canadians drink!! Lol

Yes, we are mad at the administration and "elbows up" isn't a call to violence     It's a call to stand up together in response to an economic war we did not ask for 

As for people in Florida; I would say not going there would have been a lot better way to show their displeasure than to bad mouth every day Americans 

Bottom line is that I don't believe there has been any incidences of Americans being given a hard time while here.  
I believe most Canadians would  actually be happy to see you here.  

 

On 3/17/2025 at 9:11 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

We should all ask ourselves why this is happening. Not just the threats to Canada but all of it. Who does this benefit? Who reaps the biggest reward from a weakened America?

Russia 

[Broken Ankles]

Is there an insider here who has visibility to the renewal data and if Exec management within the Sabres have established goals as it relates to renewals as a percent? I have to believe with the general unhappiness about the owner/GM/organization coupled with the uncertainty of the CAD,  overall ST renewals are not reaching internal metrics.  And there has to be a melting point at which Pegula can’t deny what the “paying fans” think and he pivots away from Adams.