Donald Trump imposes 25% tariffs on Canada and continues to threaten Canada with 51st state rhetoric

[Hank]

6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Why would you be curious about that? The answer is probably yes but why are you curious about it?

Because it seems like an important issue to bankrupt a country? Kinda surprised I'd need to explain why I'd find that interesting. Hard to believe I'm in the minority on this one. You DID quote my post asking the question, asking for clarity on your confusing response seemed appropriate. 

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

He's a fascist that I don't find funny. 

The man, I don't disagree, the content was funny IMO, YMMV. 

[LGR4GM]

29 minutes ago, Hank said:

Because it seems like an important issue to bankrupt a country? Kinda surprised I'd need to explain why I'd find that interesting. Hard to believe I'm in the minority on this one. You DID quote my post asking the question, asking for clarity on your confusing response seemed appropriate. 

The man, I don't disagree, the content was funny IMO, YMMV. 

The US economy is about 29ish trillion. The Canadian, about 2 trillion so I'd have to guess the US could inflict enough financial damage to Canada to economically destroy them. 

[K-9]

11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The US economy is about 29ish trillion. The Canadian, about 2 trillion so I'd have to guess the US could inflict enough financial damage to Canada to economically destroy them. 

The gross number is misleading as Canada has a very healthy GDP per capita given its relatively low population ( I think they just recently surpassed California for the first time). They are also a major supplier of minerals, oil, and other resources to countries all over the world, including the US. While the US GDP dwarfs that of Canada, as it does every other country, we really aren’t in a position to crash their economy as there are so many other geopolitical factors at play at any given time.

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

The gross number is misleading as Canada has a very healthy GDP per capita given its relatively low population ( I think they just recently surpassed California for the first time). They are also a major supplier of minerals, oil, and other resources to countries all over the world, including the US. While the US GDP dwarfs that of Canada, as it does every other country, we really aren’t in a position to crash their economy as there are so many other geopolitical factors at play at any given time.

True. If Europe and other nations want to, they could pick up the drop in trade and increase exports to Canada. 

[Hank]

24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The US economy is about 29ish trillion. The Canadian, about 2 trillion so I'd have to guess the US could inflict enough financial damage to Canada to economically destroy them. 

Wow! I had no idea there was such a stark contrast. I guess I always assumed canada was on a more level playing field with the US.  I'll be the first to admit I don't know a damn thing about tariffs. 

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

The gross number is misleading as Canada has a very healthy GDP per capita given its relatively low population ( I think they just recently surpassed California for the first time). They are also a major supplier of minerals, oil, and other resources to countries all over the world, including the US. While the US GDP dwarfs that of Canada, as it does every other country, we really aren’t in a position to crash their economy as there are so many other geopolitical factors at play at any given time.

This is also some good info, thanks. Everything I've read says that the Tariffs will be a bad thing short term. As far as long term what I've read is mixed. Some say it could be good for the US long term. Unfortunately, it looks like we're going to find out. 

[Huckleberry]

47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The US economy is about 29ish trillion. The Canadian, about 2 trillion so I'd have to guess the US could inflict enough financial damage to Canada to economically destroy them. 

Canada could also just cut the power and energy they supply to USA no ?  I think people would feel that more.

What is mindblowing though, when he talks about Tariffs towards China, China owns 800 billion in USA debt.   The Tarrifs aren't making this any better, but just imagine having a president as ataxpayer who doesn't seemt to realize the interest you yearly pay on this debt are funding the Chinese army.

[Hank]

My Brother-in-law works for Crossett driving an oil tanker. He drives to Canada 4-5 times a week to pick up, the tariffs will definitely impact his employer, and him. 

[K-9]

4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Canada could also just cut the power and energy they supply to USA no ?  I think people would feel that more.

What is mindblowing though, when he talks about Tariffs towards China, China owns 800 billion in USA debt.   The Tarrifs aren't making this any better, but just imagine having a president as ataxpayer who doesn't seemt to realize the interest you yearly pay on this debt are funding the Chinese army.

Canadian officials have threatened to do just that by turning off the electrical energy they supply to various states as well as  the four million barrels of crude they send on a daily basis. 

[Huckleberry]

Tarrifs hurt the common people more than anyone else.   Problem is USA is isolating themselves, Russia won't help them, Canada and Mexico already have some back up planes with EU and other countries in place.   

But the way things are already turning out, I can see Trump making a 180 degree turn again soon.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Canadian officials have threatened to do just that by turning off the electrical energy they supply to various states as well as  the four million barrels of crude they send on a daily basis. 

Yup NY, Minnesota, and Michigan will be not hard by it. 

Just now, Huckleberry said:

Tarrifs hurt the common people more than anyone else.   Problem is USA is isolating themselves, Russia won't help them, Canada and Mexico already have some back up planes with EU and other countries in place.   

But the way things are already turning out, I can see Trump making a 180 degree turn again soon.

Trump wants Canada to become the 51st state, he'll apply pressure until it happens. 

[Huckleberry]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Canadian officials have threatened to do just that by turning off the electrical energy they supply to various states as well as  the four million barrels of crude they send on a daily basis. 

Well for most of that they probably already have an EU market for their gas and oil, they just need their own refineries instead of going via USA.

Thing is reason Trump wants Canada/Greenland so bad is the same reason China wants parts of Siberia back, and Putin been whispering it in his ear. 

North pole access...

[K-9]

2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Well for most of that they probably already have an EU market for their gas and oil, they just need their own refineries instead of going via USA.

Thing is reason Trump wants Canada/Greenland so bad is the same reason China wants parts of Siberia back, and Putin been whispering it in his ear. 

North pole access...

As I mentioned earlier, Canada has favorable trade agreements with other countries all over the world. They just aren’t solely dependent on the US market. 

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

As I mentioned earlier, Canada has favorable trade agreements with other countries all over the world. They just aren’t solely dependent on the US market. 

Canada could build refineries outside Quebec or even Hamilton and ship oil straight out the St Lawrence. Would only be blocked for maybe a month a year with ice. Hell, they could just send ice beakers in front of tankers, doesn't even get that cold anymore. 

[LGR4GM]

Trump doesn't have any of his own ideas

 

[LGR4GM]

 

[LGR4GM]

Well, Trump and company have gone full dipshit to justify their dipshittery.

 

 

[LGR4GM]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadians-fed-up-says-alberta-lawyer-leading-delegation-washington-statehood-talks

This is the type of trash fox news is writing about. It is all part of the psychological manipulation to convince Americans that this is not only okay but something Canadians want. 

[Hank]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadians-fed-up-says-alberta-lawyer-leading-delegation-washington-statehood-talks

This is the type of trash fox news is writing about. It is all part of the psychological manipulation to convince Americans that this is not only okay but something Canadians want. 

Your post is not an accurate depiction of the link you provided, which is a video of a Canadian lawyer stating he wants to lead a delegation to DC to explore the possibility of Albera becoming a state, or possibly a sovereign nation. I don't think it's anymore likely to happen than you do and I agree with you that trump is being an idiot, but it was just a couple decades ago that Quebec was just a few votes shy of becoming a sovereign nation, so who knows?

[LGR4GM]

12 minutes ago, Hank said:

Your post is not an accurate depiction of the link you provided, which is a video of a Canadian lawyer stating he wants to lead a delegation to DC to explore the possibility of Albera becoming a state, or possibly a sovereign nation. I don't think it's anymore likely to happen than you do and I agree with you that trump is being an idiot, but it was just a couple decades ago that Quebec was just a few votes shy of becoming a sovereign nation, so who knows?

Yes it is. They're giving this guy a platform and he's gonna at least meet trump advisors in Washington. It's all about legitimizing the forceful annexation of Canada. 

[LGR4GM]

Every single time ppl are like "Trumps kidding" "trump doesn't mean it" he turns around and does mean it

 

[K-9]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Every single time ppl are like "Trumps kidding" "trump doesn't mean it" he turns around and does mean it

 

And nobody projects more than him, too. Read a headline today that read, “DOGE is The Deep State.” Didn’t get around to reading the article, but that headline brought to mind all the projecting he’s done over the years.

[Hank]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Yes it is. They're giving this guy a platform and he's gonna at least meet trump advisors in Washington. It's all about legitimizing the forceful annexation of Canada. 

I misread what you were saying, my apologies.