4 Nations Face-Off

[Pimlach]

Slavin reminds me of former Buffalo Sabre Bill Hajt.   Same size, same defense first style.   

The kind of player that makes very few mistakes and does much more right than wrong.   

 

[JujuFish]

4 hours ago, klos1963 said:

You can't figure out the point?

Having Eichel on a team isn't such a bad thing if your goal is to win the Cup.

How is that an argument against the fact that we had to settle for Eichel? Lots of players aren't bad to have on your team if your goal is to win a cup.

So, again I say, your point?

[LTS]

4 hours ago, BMWR100RT said:

Grumpy old man rant. To superimpose Herb Brooks speech over the American NHL all-stars was just so wrong. "Miracle" happened during the cold war, when we were the good guys, the kids were amateurs and a miracle did happen. That was just lazy and wrong on so many levels.

When he gave the speech the miracle hadn't happened yet.  But yes, you've channeled your Walter Mathau quite swimmingly.

3 hours ago, French Collection said:

His sister, who skates just as well, was a non factor. I think McAvoy would have had more of an impact.

Welcome to zero credibility. Absolutely ridiculous statement.

2 hours ago, French Collection said:

Sorry if I offended you, I just wanted to state that the Hughes gang is more suited to skills competitions.

They needed more Larkins and Slavins.

I know this was in response to someone else who called your absolutely ignorant statement. I'm not offended, I don't get offended by people demonstrating their ignorance. Given that you freely demonstrate how little you think, your opinions mean absolutely nothing to me.

1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said:

It's hard for me to believe that people can watch that game and be blind to the current political climate that hung over that game   Did you cover your ears during the postgame interviews of the Canadian coaches / players? 
Let's be honest, politics made that game the spectacle it was and why someone here said that it was most important hockey victory for Canada since we beat the soviets in 72.  
 

I didn't listen to the post game interviews as I just shut the game off. I can only handle so much hyperbole from media talking heads.

What did they say?

I can only imagine that speaking up on the comments of the President will lead to some interesting situations for Canadian players playing in US markets. At least with those people citizens in the US that might be more fanatical supporters of the President.

Ugly situation.

[bob_sauve28]

3 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

We got what we deserved for counting on a Maple Leaf in Boston for a winner-take-all game. Eventually Matthews was going to choke.

Yup. 

[klos1963]

1 hour ago, JujuFish said:

How is that an argument against the fact that we had to settle for Eichel? Lots of players aren't bad to have on your team if your goal is to win a cup.

So, again I say, your point?

Again,  I told you my  point. 

My point won't change just because you don't like my answer. 

If you want to continue to lament the draft of 10 years ago, have at it.

[Crusader1969]

1 hour ago, LTS said:

When he gave the speech the miracle hadn't happened yet.  But yes, you've channeled your Walter Mathau quite swimmingly.

Welcome to zero credibility. Absolutely ridiculous statement.

I know this was in response to someone else who called your absolutely ignorant statement. I'm not offended, I don't get offended by people demonstrating their ignorance. Given that you freely demonstrate how little you think, your opinions mean absolutely nothing to me.

I didn't listen to the post game interviews as I just shut the game off. I can only handle so much hyperbole from media talking heads.

What did they say?

I can only imagine that speaking up on the comments of the President will lead to some interesting situations for Canadian players playing in US markets. At least with those people citizens in the US that might be more fanatical supporters of the President.

Ugly situation.

I don't think anyone said anything too controversial, only that it was a win that the country needed at this time and that they understood the game had extra meaning to Canadians 

[JujuFish]

22 minutes ago, klos1963 said:

Again,  I told you my  point. 

My point won't change just because you don't like my answer. 

If you want to continue to lament the draft of 10 years ago, have at it.

So your point is that you have nothing relevant to say. Got it.

[PerreaultForever]

7 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

I think the only option is to go to 6 teams with Russia and a World Team made up of players from Czech, Slovakia, Germany, Austria etc. You can’t have a tournament in mid season with anymore teams or you are pushing it.

They tinkered with that once before but I think if you have a "Europe" team made up of all those countries you pretty much throw Finland into the loser seat and maybe Sweden too. Czechs plus Slovaks with some star Germans etc. would be a very good team.  

If you want a real equal competition maybe you could have Scandinavia with Sweden and Finland as one team but they are also kind of rivals so probably doesn't work. I think no matter how you work it it'll still end up Canada U.S. 

[HumanSlinky39]

Auston Matthews looks like he farts a lot.

[OverPowerYou]

Now, that four nations is over. I am in a state of hockey depression. Reality has set in, in the fact that I have to root for the Sabres again. I really wish there was a second team that I could follow and actually legitimately deeply care about

[klos1963]

1 hour ago, JujuFish said:

So your point is that you have nothing relevant to say. Got it.

Right,  you just keep whining about the draft of 10 years ago. 

[Thorner]

17 hours ago, JujuFish said:

Every time I see Connor McDavid, I am reminded about how we had to settle for Eichel.

An awesome player? lol

McDavid scored because Eichel, who shut him down all game, was replaced with Matthews

what a sad takeaway. probably what our organization thought too, right? Haha 

- - - 

Binnington was incredible yesterday. What an awesome performance, game was incredibly fun. I’d have given him player of the game. 

And Sid player of the tournament. Their heartbeat. 

 

Championship belt is still ours. 

17 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

I thought Bennington was the player of the game, he made huge saves in overtime.

Absolutely 

Edited 23 hours ago by Thorner

[Thorner]

17 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

That was a great hockey game. Binnington showed he's a money goalie after all. Stuck it to Boston in the Stanley Cup finals and stuck it to their fans again tonight. 

Marchand piggybacking Konecny really did make me laugh. That might be the biggest international win for Canada since '72. I hope we see this again. 

Great win, doesn’t sniff 2010

9 hours ago, SwampD said:

Only, in 2010, Crosby would not have been open if the ref didn’t kick the puck right to his stick.

 

And I really don’t care. It was awesome hockey to watch. The nationalism does nothing for me. Especially in our current climate. It would have been nice if the US had won, but I just want the Sabres to be good and I just don’t see that happening any time soon and that bums me out.

I did, too. That’s why it’s hard for me to say.

You are thinking of Iginla 

[Thorner]

4 hours ago, JujuFish said:

How is that an argument against the fact that we had to settle for Eichel? Lots of players aren't bad to have on your team if your goal is to win a cup.

So, again I say, your point?

It’s not that he isn’t bad if you want to win the cup. It’s that we have proof he’s good enough to be your best player when you win the cup 

“I’m so sad we had to settle for a guy capable of leading the Stanley cup playoffs in points while playing a dominant 2 way game”

[SwampD]

8 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Great win, doesn’t sniff 2010

You are thinking of Iginla 

I don't even think the ref fed to him. It was Crosby. The ref actually made a great play and jumped over the pass.

Unless you mean it was Iginla that fed Crosby the puck. In which case, yes, you are right.

Either way, Crosby is amazing.

[PerreaultForever]

21 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Great win, doesn’t sniff 2010

In Canada it does. This was symbolically huge. 

[Thorner]

6 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

In Canada it does. This was symbolically huge. 

I am Canadian, dude. We don’t think it’s as big 

Almost no one does. You totally can - but you have to have some awareness for the conversation. Just go read - it’s not being counted as akin to 2010 

It still feels big! 

But people literally do put the Golden Goal up there with Henderson 

Edited 23 hours ago by Thorner

[Thorner]

11 minutes ago, SwampD said:

I don't even think the ref fed to him. It was Crosby. The ref actually made a great play and jumped over the pass.

Unless you mean it was Iginla that fed Crosby the puck. In which case, yes, you are right.

Either way, Crosby is amazing.

Ahhh I see what you are saying.

Ya he’s incredible, the very uncommon case of a player so grand in stature he literally does elevate the play of everyone on the team to a man 

[Thorner]

3 most legendary goals in Canadian international hockey history are, in no particular order:

Henderson

Lemieux

Crosby

 

imo the Golden Goal has somehow incredibly found a way to eclipse the Mario goal in standing…also imo Henderson goal can’t be topped, I and most would have that 1 I’d say

 

…I don’t think this is too heavily biased. I mean I lived through Salt Lake too as a kid and it was huge and felt huge but there was no moment as defining as Sid’s goal. World Cup 2004.. I think there’s another couple world cups.. Eberle has a pretty big WJC goal. McDavid is somewhere mixed in here. I’d have Sakic’s goal a bit ahead though I think. Just the nature of it being the Olympics. It’ll be way more memorable than anything else though I bet due to it being McDavid 

Sid has become associated with Canada on the national stage probably now more than anyone else 

Edited 22 hours ago by Thorner

[SwampD]

7 minutes ago, Thorner said:

3 most legendary goals in Canadian international hockey history are, in no particular order:

Henderson

Lemieux

Crosby

 

imo the Golden Goal has somehow incredibly found a way to eclipse the Mario goal in standing…also imo Henderson goal can’t be topped, I and most would have that 1 I’d say

 

…I don’t think this is too heavily biased. I mean I lived through Salt Lake too as a kid and it was huge and felt huge but there was no moment as defining as Sid’s goal. World Cup 2004.. I think there’s another couple world cups.. Eberle has a pretty big WJC goal. McDavid is somewhere mixed in here. I’d have Sakic’s goal a bit ahead though I think. Just the nature of it being the Olympics. It’ll be way more memorable than anything else though I bet due to it being McDavid 

Do you think that Lindy and Miller factor into that?

I'm serious when I say that international play doesn't really move the needle for me. Other than '80, the only other olympics that I had a rooting interest in was when Hasek won gold.

[Thorner]

10 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Do you think that Lindy and Miller factor into that?

I'm serious when I say that international play doesn't really move the needle for me. Other than '80, the only other olympics that I had a rooting interest in was when Hasek won gold.

No not really tbh 

Ya that Hasek one was agonizing. Best player in the world at that time 

[GoPuckYourself]

I seem to be in the minority but I stopped watch the Olympics because they always seem boring to me. This 4 nations was entertaining, I knew it was going to be really good 5 minutes into the game and i was hooked even the Swede's/Fins game was good but not as fun as the Canada/US imo. It was the most entertained I may have ever been for a hockey game, the fights just set the tone for that entire game and it's a shame so many of our guys got injured as i would have liked to see if the outcome would be different.

Edited 22 hours ago by GoPuckYourself

[SwampD]

30 minutes ago, Thorner said:

No not really tbh 

Ya that Hasek one was agonizing. Best player in the world at that time 

Absolutely. 2 goals in 3 games with a shut out in the gold medal game. Unreal.

While wearing his Sabres helmet.

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, OverPowerYou said:

Now, that four nations is over. I am in a state of hockey depression. Reality has set in, in the fact that I have to root for the Sabres again. I really wish there was a second team that I could follow and actually legitimately deeply care about

Can’t you just watch hockey and enjoy the skill and action?  

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, Thorner said:

An awesome player? lol

McDavid scored because Eichel, who shut him down all game, was replaced with Matthews

what a sad takeaway. probably what our organization thought too, right? Haha 

- - - 

Binnington was incredible yesterday. What an awesome performance, game was incredibly fun. I’d have given him player of the game. 

And Sid player of the tournament. Their heartbeat. 

 

Championship belt is still ours. 

Absolutely 

Binington has several big game victories to his credit.  A Cup, which was a journey from last place, and this tournament game.  He seems to come up big when it’s show time.  

Eichel looks great. A complete center.  His skating, playmaking, shooting and defense - all elite  

We had one of the top players in the game and pretty much gave him away.   He needed to leave to grow up, got in with the right group in Vegas, and now  he is exceptional.  

Edited 20 hours ago by Pimlach