Report:Mattias Samuelsson not out for the year

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Sabres73 said:

Which is it - the Sabres keep rushing young players into the lineup too quickly, or if he doesn't get the youngsters into the lineup now he's lacking a "sense of urgency"? It's hard to keep up with which way the wind is blowing today.

He's lacking a sense of urgency because he's going to wait until youngsters are ready at 22-24yrs old. You're conflating things. 

[Stoner]

...kindergarten.

[French Collection]

2 hours ago, Sabres73 said:

Which is it - the Sabres keep rushing young players into the lineup too quickly, or if he doesn't get the youngsters into the lineup now he's lacking a "sense of urgency"? It's hard to keep up with which way the wind is blowing today.

A sense of urgency to add players to a lineup in order to improve the team, the culture and the morale of the fans.

The Savoie for McLeod move was a step, he just stumbled after that. 
They came so close two years ago and he did squat to help them. He assumed they would just build on that but it hasn’t happened.

As I used to say to people standing around at work, waiting for direct orders, when there were always small maintenance things to do, DO SOMETHING.

[Dreams Burn Down]

1 hour ago, Stoner said:

...kindergarten.

The kids do grow up fast these days.

[Doohicksie]

This comes to mind...

 

[Big Guava]

Why is this surprising? The dude is the Tua of the NHL. Fragile.

[Flashsabre]

I don’t think Metsa is the solution for the D corps I just think a guy that has played so well for 2 years deserves a chance. Sign him and bring him up and give him a chance. 
 

I just want Adams gone and someone more qualified to figure out the D Corps. Muel, Joker, Bryson can all go.

Find a partner for Power.

[GoPuckYourself]

6 hours ago, Sabres73 said:

Which is it - the Sabres keep rushing young players into the lineup too quickly, or if he doesn't get the youngsters into the lineup now he's lacking a "sense of urgency"? It's hard to keep up with which way the wind is blowing today.

 

I don't think this is rushing the player, more like where is he in his development and no better way to see than in game action right? There is no pressure for him, we're out of contention and the season is basically over.

[DarthEbriate]

Metsa... I’d offer him an ELC once Joker is moved as a RHD tweener for that 7/8 role next season. (This is under my operating assumption that Bryson and Joker are both gone.) But he is free to sign with any NHL franchise at any time.

With Bryson gone and Muel ever-IR, Novikov is going to be on the roster next season. I make sure he’s up for a week this year to see the speed, now that the playoffs are safely beyond reach. 

[HumanSlinky39]

I honestly didn't even realize he was injured AGAIN. I even watched the CBJ game.

 

[xzy89c1]

if he was out for year the amazing Mike Harrington would have broke the story....

[inkman]

On 2/8/2025 at 3:23 PM, Big Guava said:

Why is this surprising? The dude is the Tua of the NHL. Fragile.

Who is surprised?

[WhenWillItEnd66]

On 2/8/2025 at 5:51 PM, HumanSlinky39 said:

I honestly didn't even realize he was injured AGAIN. I even watched the CBJ game.

 

Ha!!!! Glass joe!!

[HumanSlinky39]

57 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

Ha!!!! Glass joe!!

I mean, that's pretty much him at this point, innit? Somebody bumps into him wrong and he's out for a few weeks.

[JP51]

20 hours ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

I mean, that's pretty much him at this point, innit? Somebody bumps into him wrong and he's out for a few weeks.

Exactly lol... not out for the year means he comes back... plays 1 period... gets hurt... then is out for the year... 

[7+6=13]

I seem to remember the advanced stats showed that we won more often when Samuelsson played.  So my feeling was, just stay healthy man, you're important. 

Now it's just pure disappointment because he can't stay healthy and isn't making a difference.  So frustrating.

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, 7+6=13 said:

I seem to remember the advanced stats showed that we won more often when Samuelsson played.  So my feeling was, just stay healthy man, you're important. 

Now it's just pure disappointment because he can't stay healthy and isn't making a difference.  So frustrating.

There was a stretch last year where that was true but since injury(s) he has never been the same and has not had that impact. 

[7+6=13]

5 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

There was a stretch last year where that was true but since injury(s) he has never been the same and has not had that impact. 

That's what I'm referring to, last year.  He had injuries then too and prior IIRC.  Now he's proven that it's not just the injuries.

[inkman]

7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

There was a stretch last year where that was true but since injury(s) he has never been the same and has not had that impact. 

 

7 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

That's what I'm referring to, last year.  He had injuries then too and prior IIRC.  Now he's proven that it's not just the injuries.

Paul Hamilton, as little regard as I like to give him, mentioned yesterday on WGR that he thinks Mattias’s injuries have had a cumulative effect and he’s no longer the player he once was.  Dude is like 25.  WTF are we even talking about.  Get this dude off the team, out of the org and let me forget about this woeful era of Sabres hockey. 

[LGR4GM]

35 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

Paul Hamilton, as little regard as I like to give him, mentioned yesterday on WGR that he thinks Mattias’s injuries have had a cumulative effect and he’s no longer the player he once was.  Dude is like 25.  WTF are we even talking about.  Get this dude off the team, out of the org and let me forget about this woeful era of Sabres hockey. 

This will get some flak I think but... Jacob Bryson is a more consistent and effective defender at this point. Samuelsson should be traded both because of his play and because this group cannot stay together. 

[JP51]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

This will get some flak I think but... Jacob Bryson is a more consistent and effective defender at this point. Samuelsson should be traded both because of his play and because this group cannot stay together. 

and quite honestly because I dont think his value will ever be higher than it is now... allow this process of playing poorly getting hurt, coming back playing worse getting hurt to continue for another year and you will need to cut him an buy him out. 

[inkman]

22 minutes ago, JP51 said:

and quite honestly because I dont think his value will ever be higher than it is now... allow this process of playing poorly getting hurt, coming back playing worse getting hurt to continue for another year and you will need to cut him an buy him out. 

Mattias Samuelsson has value? 

[JP51]

53 minutes ago, inkman said:

Mattias Samuelsson has value? 

I actually almost added... if his value hasnt been diminished to the untradeable point already....  I honestly dont know... but I can tell you this I dont think it is going to a higher place than it is right now thats for sure.... 

[inkman]

46 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I actually almost added... if his value hasnt been diminished to the untradeable point already....  I honestly dont know... but I can tell you this I dont think it is going to a higher place than it is right now thats for sure.... 

Well, he’s not going anywhere. Just one big happy family here.  

[PerreaultForever]

6 hours ago, inkman said:

 

Paul Hamilton, as little regard as I like to give him, mentioned yesterday on WGR that he thinks Mattias’s injuries have had a cumulative effect and he’s no longer the player he once was.  Dude is like 25.  WTF are we even talking about.  Get this dude off the team, out of the org and let me forget about this woeful era of Sabres hockey. 

I think it's really simple to understand. He's gotten injured blocking shots and playing defensive D and so he doesn't want to do that the way he needs to to be successful with his skillset. 

I'd love to see what happens to him in a trade to Philly the first time he doesn't block a shot he should for Torts. Mind you, we have a habit of breaking promising D men and we'd probably see Torts fix him eventually like he did with Risto.