LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Weave said: The big issue isn’t which agency provided the funds, it is that the federal government was able to withdraw it from a NY account. How is that legal? @Hank doesn't care.
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Just now, Weave said: The big issue isn’t which agency provided the funds, it is that the federal government was able to withdraw it from a NY account. How is that legal? I understand that, but being a snarky, condescending bitch telling me to stop lying and do better when I quoted his own post is asinine.
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, Hank said: "While DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) claims it was for Cyber Defense," Hank wants you to think it was for some social deception program on Americans, even though the start of the program happened under Donald Trump in 2018. Of course if it was to counter misinformation it clearly failed, because I have spent the last 30mins having to repeat myself about the Shelter Program.
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Weave, you and I are able to have civil discussions on here. He has shown time and again he has no interest in that.
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Hank said: I understand that, but being a snarky, condescending bitch telling me to stop lying and do better when I quoted his own post is asinine. Then do better. And stop calling me names, you are undermining your argument. You don't like the fact that your right wing misinformation posts are lies, than research themselves and stop posting ppl like Laura Loomer and whatever that Daily Caller hack was.
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Hank said: Weave, you and I are able to have civil discussions on here. He has shown time and again he has no interest in that. Says the guy who has called me " condescending bitch" "obnoxious" and I think said "i have no respect for you" at some point as well. But me pointing out a blatant lie, that is the person who can't conduct himself with "civil discourse"
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Just now, LGR4GM said: Says the guy who has called me " condescending bitch" "obnoxious" and I think said "i have no respect for you" at some point as well. But me pointing out a blatant lie, that is the person who can't conduct himself with "civil discourse" The thing is, if it is a lie it's not mine. It was a direct quote from the NYC Comptroller from your post. How do you not get that?
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hank said: "this is money that the federal government previously disbursed for shelter and services and is now missing." To whom was this fema money going to for shelter and services? Illegal immigrants? I'm not aware of any recent disaster in NYC that would require fema's assistance. " I'm not aware of any recent disaster in NYC that would require fema's assistance." See this Hank, this right here, is in fact, a lie. This is the 3rd time I think that you have directly or heavily implied FEMA funds were diverted to illegal immigrants. I took the time to show people why that wasn't the case yesterday, and I have done so again today. You don't like my verbiage, good. Hopefully, I've made my point. One more time though, Shelter and Services Program, lives within FEMA because they have the compacity to distribute funds. However, the notion that FEMA funds (AKA disaster relief funds) were diverted from Americans to illegal immigrants, as far as we know (see I will admit it might be happening somehow somewhere) did not happen because this program is separate funding. https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program Quote The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). In Fiscal Year 2024, Congress appropriated $650,000,000 for SSP. SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide sheltering and related activities to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly, and humane release of noncitizen migrants from short-term holding facilities. Edited February 13 by LGR4GM
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: " I'm not aware of any recent disaster in NYC that would require fema's assistance." See this Hank, this right here, is in fact, a lie. This is the 3rd time I think that you have directly or heavily implied FEMA funds were diverted to illegal immigrants. I took the time to show people why that wasn't the case yesterday, and I have done so again today. You don't like my verbiage, good. Hopefully, I've made my point. Still ignoring the point. Full TDS mode, living in Trump's America must be miserable for you 😝
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Just now, Hank said: Still ignoring the point. Full TDS mode, living in Trump's America must be miserable for you 😝 "WHY CAN'T YOU BE MORE CIVIL LIGER! I DON'T RESPECT YOU AND YOU ARE A BITCH AND OBNOXIOUS AND HAVE TRUMP DERRANGEMENT SYNDROME! NOW STOP CALLING ME OUT FOR BLATANT MISINFORMATION AND BE MORE CIVIL, YOU OBNOXIOUS BITCH WHO I DON'T RESPECT." I may be paraphrasing... slightly. 😜 I will tell you what hank, because contrary to popular belief I am a person of my word, I will refrain from directly impugning your character again. I will even apologize, I am sorry that calling you a liar upset you and I retract that. I will post nothing but straight facts with minimal editorializing in response specifically to your posts if I comment on them. So even if I think something is wrong, I will just say "This information I found seems to contradict that" or something similar. Fair? I will let it end here, you can even toss one more comeback at me, I don't think I deserve the last word. However, if going forward you see fit to break this, I swear to whatever God you believe in, I will be unrelenting in my responses thereafter.
K-9 Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: This is what happens when you blanket close an agency like USAID with no planning and with malicious intent. "I began to feel an intense sense of panic that my government might fully abandon Americans working for USAID in Kinshasa. Washington staff, concerned that any spending not directly approved by then-acting Administrator Jason Gray would be met with accusations of SUBVERTING the executive order and swift retribution, determined that they needed to process a "waiver request" with approval from Acting Director Gray. Thankfully, the career staff took up this effort despite perceived risks that they may suffer retaliation for attempting to spend money to save lives. The Acting Administrator did not approve the waiver request until January 29, well after evacuation had already begun. Despite the lack of approved waiver, USAID staff and their families participated in the evacuation from Kinshasa..." "We were being aggressively maligned by Musk and Trump as a "criminal organization" composed of "marxists" who "hate America" that "need to die." Musk bragged about missing parties to "feed USAID into the woodchipper." The President called USAID staff "radical lunatics;" both repeatedly and publicly asserted their intent to close the agency." It’s called leaving a vacuum and bad actors will soon seek to fill it. IMO, unless you’ve been on the ground and have seen first hand the tangible results of our influence in various places around the world, then you just can’t appreciate the importance of the work. By all means, root out and prosecute the corruption and fraud, but by all means, continue to do the work. We seem to have a collective amnesia as to why these agencies were created in the first place. They are even more important today.
K-9 Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 42 minutes ago, Weave said: The big issue isn’t which agency provided the funds, it is that the federal government was able to withdraw it from a NY account. How is that legal? Thank you. It’s NOT legal as only Congress controls the purse strings and the appropriation of funds. The Executive branch simply has no authority to re-direct funds already approved and appropriated by Congress. The ignorance of our Constitution and laws by people sworn to protect and defend as well as those who never took the oath in the first place (Musk) is staggering. And it’s a shameful indictment of our patriotism that so many are OK with it.
K-9 Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 29 minutes ago, Hank said: Armored tesla? Nope, no waste here. The hypocrisy is laughable. Why do I doubt that Faux News and the other far right propaganda outlets will even bother to report it.
K-9 Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 18 minutes ago, Hank said: I love irony Irony? Is that the new spelling for hypocrisy?
Weave Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Hank said: I love irony Is it as simple as Trump has baggage on the entire Republican side of the aisle? Or are they all willing to get in line for some future benefit? It used to be that if you were this brazen about it both sides of congress would shut it down.
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Weave said: Is it as simple as Trump has baggage on the entire Republican side of the aisle? Or are they all willing to get in line for some future benefit? It used to be that if you were this brazen about it both sides of congress would shut it down. They believe 2 things. First is that they can't get reelected without supporting Trump. This makes sense because X would be rife with bots if you don't agree with Donald or Elon. Look what happened to Liz Cheney, she's as Republican as they come but she was summarily removed from the party for opposing Trump. Second, I do believe that most Republicans think or already get kick backs. That could be to them personally or to their states. Trump isn't kidding when he talks about taking funds from Blue states. It is a policy position to ensure loyalty. At least, that's my opinion.
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Hank said: I love irony It gets better... or worse? idk something
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, Weave said: Is it as simple as Trump has baggage on the entire Republican side of the aisle? Or are they all willing to get in line for some future benefit? It used to be that if you were this brazen about it both sides of congress would shut it down. I keep saying there's rampant corruption on both sides, I firmly believe it. This seems next level don't give a *****.
Weave Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 31 minutes ago, Hank said: I keep saying there's rampant corruption on both sides, I firmly believe it. This seems next level don't give a *****. Yeah thats my point. Until now at least they had the decency to not wave it around like dollar bills at a strip club. I guess none of us expected transparency to look like this.
LTS Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Honestly feels like Elon bought twitter to gather all kinds of additional data on the people who use it. He now has dirt on everyone and is clearly doing his best Jeff Foxworthy impersonation with Donald Trump. Perhaps the guy behind the curtain isn't even really behind the curtain and standing in plain sight. I "joked" with one of my Canadian co-workers yesterday that while everyone is worried about Trump and Canada it's all distraction so no one notices Elon's Boring Company building an underground tunnel through Canada siphon off the oil. As crazy as that sounds... at this point? I'm not sure it's so crazy.
K-9 Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Weave said: Yeah thats my point. Until now at least they had the decency to not wave it around like dollar bills at a strip club. I guess none of us expected transparency to look like this. It’s less about transparency than it is a giant one of these: By the most arrogant president and group of lackeys in out history.
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