LGR4GM Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Evidence mounting that Elon Musk may be a liar https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/elon-musk-trump-doge-executive-order-rcna191751 Quote In other instances, independent fact-checkers have cast doubt on Musk’s examples of alleged waste. His claim that the United States spent $50 million on condoms for the Gaza Strip was widely criticized for lacking evidence. Asked by a reporter about the condom fact-checks, Musk acknowledged that some of what he has said about alleged waste in the government has turned out to be false. “Nobody’s going to bat a thousand,” Musk said. (Earlier in the day, Musk had been posting phallic jokes on X.) He will lie to your face because he thinks you are to stupid to notice. And if you notice, he doesn't actually care.
LGR4GM Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) 16 hours ago, Hank said: This is interesting, I wonder how it plays out on appeal. Hey Hank, guess what? Remember how you posted Laura Loomer, a Trump sycophant and conspiracy theorists as though it were something legitimate? Now you claimed this was "interesting", it wasn't, and that you would be curious to see how it played out on appeal. Well, the appeal happened, we have a ruling from the 1st Circuit Court. So what's next, will Loomer attack the Judiciary some more because she hates our Country and the Constitution? Edited February 12 by LGR4GM
LTS Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 7 hours ago, Weave said: Which, of course, is a very different message than the one you are trying to communicate re: freedom. It’s not government programs that inhibit our freedom at all. 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Other than your position on a gun law designed to help prevent criminals and mentally unstable people from gaining easy access to guns, I pretty much agree with what you posit here. But I am surprised by your take on taxes as it’s interesting to me how one tax (FICA) is an infringement on your personal freedom while others are not a bad thing when used properly. Taxes, by their very nature, are an infringement on freedom. Of course we don't have true freedom because true freedom is only known as anarchy. The complete absence of all rules. Rules are designed to restrict, as such they are an infringement on freedom. The question will always be, what rules acceptable and what are not? FICA is an infringement is it's entire purpose is to take money and then redistribute it to the masses. It's a program, that as I pointed out, is run horribly and basically falling apart. Taxation is a means to fund a government which is designed to enact rules upon its citizens. The reach of the government is what is in question. We have far too big a government system. I'll write a much longer diatribe at some point, but at its foundation.. that's it. It's not really as contradictory as you make it out to be.
LGR4GM Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Okay, this, this makes perfect sense for DOGE (if it was a real department) to work on. They process all federal retirees by hand and that system is insanely outdated and takes place in an old limestone mine? Like what? If the government wanted to build something more efficient and speed up the process while making it cheaper, that I would stand behind. It makes logical sense to move on from something that is fully analog. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-describes-limestone-mine-used-processing-federal-workers-retirement-papers-like-time-warp 1
K-9 Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 50 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Okay, this, this makes perfect sense for DOGE (if it was a real department) to work on. They process all federal retirees by hand and that system is insanely outdated and takes place in an old limestone mine? Like what? If the government wanted to build something more efficient and speed up the process while making it cheaper, that I would stand behind. It makes logical sense to move on from something that is fully analog. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-describes-limestone-mine-used-processing-federal-workers-retirement-papers-like-time-warp That would actually make things more efficient which is what I thought DOGE was for. Instead, it is a witch hunt full of lies and unproven accusations.
SABRES 0311 Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 DOGE needs to look into the VA. Specifically, their efficiency in processing claims and criteria used to determine if something is service connected. Not saying everyone should receive a 100% VA rating but there are some disparities I have seen when you compare two former service members' ratings given their occupation specialty, operational history, and time in service.
Hank Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 29 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: DOGE needs to look into the VA. Specifically, their efficiency in processing claims and criteria used to determine if something is service connected. Not saying everyone should receive a 100% VA rating but there are some disparities I have seen when you compare two former service members' ratings given their occupation specialty, operational history, and time in service. It's all dependent on what's in your medical records. Many soldiers don't like going to sick call because there's a stigma attached to it. Also, the process of getting a sick call slip signed, getting to sick call and waiting in line could take the whole morning, too much hassle for some.
Hank Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 I watched the hearing on CSPAN3. Did not learn anything, very disappointed. There were four witnesses there, three pro DOGE, one anti-DOGE, not many questions asked of them, mostly grandstanding. We have some congressmen, and women, that are truly pathetic. It's sad that these are the people we elected to govern us.
SABRES 0311 Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 37 minutes ago, Hank said: It's all dependent on what's in your medical records. Many soldiers don't like going to sick call because there's a stigma attached to it. Also, the process of getting a sick call slip signed, getting to sick call and waiting in line could take the whole morning, too much hassle for some. Totally understand that. After 20 years my medical record was about as thick as a new recruit. However, there were some things that did get entered during my career that magically did not populate during VA appointments. I know VSOs are available but it is what it is. I did appreciate the VA sending me to an abandoned motel for an appointment. 😆
LGR4GM Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) Sorry that the Department of Grifting Elons didn't provide answers today. They're too busy being bully boys and cutting random government things they dislike or simply feel like. You know, because they're 20yr old kids. Edited February 13 by LGR4GM Spelling
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Obviously fraud, waste and abuse isn't something that started under Biden, but why have previous administration's, both Republican and Democrat, not give it the attention it deserved? Federal Government Made $236 billion “Improper Payments” Last Fiscal Year 2023. https://www.gao.gov/blog/federal-government-made-236-billion-improper-payments-last-fiscal-year
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) This is what happens when you blanket close an agency like USAID with no planning and with malicious intent. "I began to feel an intense sense of panic that my government might fully abandon Americans working for USAID in Kinshasa. Washington staff, concerned that any spending not directly approved by then-acting Administrator Jason Gray would be met with accusations of SUBVERTING the executive order and swift retribution, determined that they needed to process a "waiver request" with approval from Acting Director Gray. Thankfully, the career staff took up this effort despite perceived risks that they may suffer retaliation for attempting to spend money to save lives. The Acting Administrator did not approve the waiver request until January 29, well after evacuation had already begun. Despite the lack of approved waiver, USAID staff and their families participated in the evacuation from Kinshasa..." "We were being aggressively maligned by Musk and Trump as a "criminal organization" composed of "marxists" who "hate America" that "need to die." Musk bragged about missing parties to "feed USAID into the woodchipper." The President called USAID staff "radical lunatics;" both repeatedly and publicly asserted their intent to close the agency." Edited February 13 by LGR4GM
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 10 minutes ago, Hank said: Elon Musk and Trump stole 80million from NY State. The money was not in a US treasury account.
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 "this is money that the federal government previously disbursed for shelter and services and is now missing." To whom was this fema money going to for shelter and services? Illegal immigrants? I'm not aware of any recent disaster in NYC that would require fema's assistance.
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hank said: "this is money that the federal government previously disbursed for shelter and services and is now missing." To whom was this fema money going to for shelter and services? Illegal immigrants? I'm not aware of any recent disaster in NYC that would require fema's assistance. It wasn't FEMA money. I disproved this lie yesterday. Do better. "The Shelter and Services Program is a joint venture between FEMA and Customs and Border Protection, which does not have its own infrastructure for administering grant programs. The $59 million sum is part of a larger pot of funds awarded to New York last year for the program." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fema-official-ignores-judge-order-freeze-grant-funding-rcna191674 https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program Quote The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Again, stop lying and do better. Edited February 13 by LGR4GM
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: It wasn't FEMA money. I disproved this lie yesterday. Do better. It's your own post that quotes NYC comptroller Brad Lander calling it fema money. Do better. 1
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hank said: It's your own post that quotes NYC comptroller Brad Lander calling it fema money. Do better. See above and do better Hank. The money is appropriated by Congress, it is issued by FEMA through a joint program with Customs and Border Protection. This occurs because Customs and Border Protection do not have the grant funding infrastructure. FEMA simply manages the money and moves it on according the appropriations of Congress, specifically the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023. The President does not have authorization to deny the disbursal of the funds according to multiple judges. The Executive Branch does not have the right to remove the funds once paid either. Do better. I have no time for your Laura Loomer nonsense and I will constantly attack your disinformation campaign with vigor. To be clear, FEMA did not use money from their disaster relief budget for the shelter program, it was separate funds appropriated by congress. "The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). In Fiscal Year 2024, Congress appropriated $650,000,000 for SSP. SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide sheltering and related activities to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)." https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program Edited February 13 by LGR4GM
Hank Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Again It's your own post that quotes NYC comptroller Brad Lander calling it fema money. Your a self righteous, obnoxious, combative twit with no desire to engage in civil discussion. Have a good day.
Weave Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 The big issue isn’t which agency provided the funds, it is that the federal government was able to withdraw it from a NY account. How is that legal? 1
LGR4GM Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Just now, Hank said: Again It's your own post that quotes NYC comptroller Brad Lander calling it fema money. Your a self righteous, obnoxious, combative twit with no desire to engage in civil discussion. Have a good day. Again, I explained why he said it. I gave you sources that explained where that money comes from and how it is not disaster relief money which you have repeatedly lied about. You post Laura Loomer and DOGE tweets like they are fact when we have been able to repeatedly demonstrate that many if not all of them have partial or completely false information. It is not my fault that you refuse to look at truthful information and stroll in here and parrot whatever far right talking points you saw on twitter today. You dislike me because time and time again I prove that what you say or retweet is nonsense. Don't wish me a good day, I want nothing from you. I will however continue with vigor to fact check your nonsense and in some cases, straight up misinformation and disinformation. SO again, FEMA did not do what you say they did. FEMA manages the money but it is not "FEMA money" which you have said and implied is FEMA disaster relief funds.
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