Flashsabre Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 On 2/5/2025 at 8:34 PM, BuffalOhio said: Why, with the poor defense we've had for the last several years, does Marty Wilford still have a job? Been saying this for over a year now. Because firing Wilford would mean they would have to pay another salary to the new D coach. The fact Ruff wasn’t allowed to bring in a single coach with him speaks volumes. 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 Just now, Flashsabre said: Because firing Wilford would mean they would have to pay another salary to the new D coach. The fact Ruff wasn’t allowed to bring in a single coach with him speaks volumes. And Ruff is still being paid by the Devils so he is cheaper too. Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Just now, LGR4GM said: And Ruff is still being paid by the Devils so he is cheaper too. Yep. Adams has lied through his teeth for a few years saying that there are no financial restrictions when everything points to the opposite being true. Be very interesting to see if they try to keep this charade going while the cap rises over the next couple years. 1 Quote
SwampD Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: And Ruff is still being paid by the Devils so he is cheaper too. Haven't we already determined that the Devils are not paying Lindy Ruff any more? Quote
Pimlach Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Stoner said: I sure do. Translate RD and OOT please? Quote
DarthEbriate Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 On 2/5/2025 at 6:42 PM, Pimlach said: To the Bold. Until now I hadn't connected the two. Adams was waaaayyy over his head. Thanks Terry. That EEE is working great. I didn't mean to infer a direction connection. It was just more of the same: electing not to build around your team's 1W who had improved each season, was likely going to lead the team in scoring and PPG the following year, and was just entering his prime. Instead, the choice was to build around a defensive defenseman who had yet to play 60 NHL games. Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 2 hours ago, SwampD said: Haven't we already determined that the Devils are not paying Lindy Ruff any more? No? He was under contract when he was fired wasn't he? Quote
SwampD Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: No? He was under contract when he was fired wasn't he? They only had to pay him until he was getting paid by someone else. Quote
French Collection Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Thorner said: Dunno, he might still be untouchable As in don’t touch him he might break. 1 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 There is a Daily Faceoof article today on Cozens and an NHL Exec says the Sabres are a hard team to make a deal with. Everything we hear about Adams and this team is just a disaster. A new owner who actually wants seasoned, competent NHL people in charge would be such a God Send. Quote
K-9 Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, SwampD said: They only had to pay him until he was getting paid by someone else. Offset language in their contracts is usually boilerplate for coaches. If a fired head coach takes a job or position that pays less, the difference is made up by his former employer. If the new position pays equal or more than previously, then his former employer is off the hook. 2 1 Quote
SwampD Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 11 hours ago, K-9 said: Offset language in their contracts is usually boilerplate for coaches. If a fired head coach takes a job or position that pays less, the difference is made up by his former employer. If the new position pays equal or more than previously, then his former employer is off the hook. That’s way better than how I could have said it. Pegula might be cheap for other examples, but it’s not because NJ is still paying his coach. Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 8 Author Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, SwampD said: That’s way better than how I could have said it. Pegula might be cheap for other examples, but it’s not because NJ is still paying his coach. I mean, he definitely is getting salary relief on Ruff because the Devils can pay him. Quote
Jorcus Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: I mean, he definitely is getting salary relief on Ruff because the Devils can pay him. In the meantime paying Don Granato. I guess that is one reason why so many coaches are recycled. Quote
Night Train Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Adams seems to on the Run It Back bus with no other passengers. Muel, Power...they should be dealt for cap relief and I wouldn't miss them at all. Quote
Archie Lee Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) On 2/7/2025 at 4:21 PM, Thorner said: Dunno, he might still be untouchable The Sabres need to move on from Kevyn Adams (and Lindy Ruff). Judging any player in the bottom-of-the-league environment that Adams has created, in this Adams’s 5th year as GM, is a flawed endeavour. At this point, if Adams stays on, the best we can hope for is that Adams accidentally stumbles into a line-up that can hang in the playoff race until the last few days of the season. He has proven himself capable of nothing more as GM. The sample size is more than large enough to draw conclusions. Edited February 10 by Archie Lee 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 7 hours ago, Archie Lee said: The Sabres need to move on from Kevyn Adams (and Lindy Ruff). Judging any player in the bottom-of-the-league environment that Adams has created, in this Adams’s 5th year as GM, is a flawed endeavour. At this point, if Adams stays on, the best we can hope for is that Adams accidentally stumbles into a line-up that can hang in the playoff race until the last few days of the season. He has proven himself capable of nothing more as GM. The sample size is more than large enough to draw conclusions. Ya I mean Adams took over from a prorated 81 point finish by Botterill. He put together a plan, enacted his vision, and FIVE years later we are pacing for..74 points. What are we doing? Quote
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