BuffalOhio Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 7 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: If he'd continued to play like he did in his first year, and they won 70% of all games he dressed in, and he'd stay healthy, it would've been the best deal in the world once the cap gets over $100M. Alas, LT to Muel and bridge-to-UFA for Reinhart was some poor decidery from up top. Also, let's get a new D coach, because Muel's game was strong and steady when he arrived from Rochester. Why, with the poor defense we've had for the last several years, does Marty Wilford still have a job? Been saying this for over a year now. 2 2 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Him and Cozens are guys got paid much too soon. I'd love to package them for a top 6 forward, preferably a #2 C. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 8 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: If he'd continued to play like he did in his first year, and they won 70% of all games he dressed in, and he'd stay healthy, it would've been the best deal in the world once the cap gets over $100M. Alas, LT to Muel and bridge-to-UFA for Reinhart was some poor decidery from up top. Also, let's get a new D coach, because Muel's game was strong and steady when he arrived from Rochester. To the Bold. Until now I hadn't connected the two. Adams was waaaayyy over his head. Thanks Terry. That EEE is working great. Quote
Pimlach Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 6 hours ago, JohnC said: I'm not as harsh in my assessment of Samuelsson as many others are. If he can stay healthy and become a good third pairing player, then he has utility. He also has value when needed he can move up to the higher pairing as the complementary player when called upon. And as you point out, he is a good on the PK. A big part of the frustration about him is his fragility. Can he become more durable? I'm not sure??? Candidly, I expected more from him this season, as I did with Cozens and Quinn. We need a big tough guy back on this defense somewhere, might as well be in the 3rd pair. Clifton is a mid-size tough guy, we need a big tough defenseman somewhere on this team. If you keep Dahlin, Power, and Byram then Muel as a 3rd liner and does not bring enough. . He is not a strong physical force, he is not a solid and steady top 4 player, and he is not reliable to be ready to play. We don't need him. PS- I am not impressed in his PK ability either. 2 Quote
JohnC Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 8 minutes ago, Pimlach said: We need a big tough guy back on this defense somewhere, might as well be in the 3rd pair. Clifton is a mid-size tough guy, we need a big tough defenseman somewhere on this team. If you keep Dahlin, Power, and Byram then Muel as a 3rd liner and does not bring enough. . He is not a strong physical force, he is not a solid and steady top 4 player, and he is not reliable to be ready to play. We don't need him. PS- I am not impressed in his PK ability either. Whether Samuelsson is on the team or not we still need that muscular defensive/defenseman. I'm not saying I'm high on him but I'm not also saying that I'm done with him. If the turns out to be a solid third pair player, then I find that acceptable. 1 Quote
French Collection Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 9 hours ago, inkman said: Quite frankly, I think McCabe is twice the player Samuelsson is. Jake wasn’t perfect but he was more than serviceable in a 4/5 dman role. His problem here is that he was often asked to be 1/2 dman. Not ideal. Samuelsson might and I mean might be a 5/6 but he’s probably best suited as 7/8 dman. Also, McCabe would have gone straight for Noesen after the Tage hit. He’s not a heavyweight but he’s an old school player who stands up for teammates. 1 5 Quote
Broken Ankles Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Pimlach said: My one comment in that one thread: Seems like a long term commitment for a player with 54 games under his belt. Hmmm Not understanding why they couldn’t wait another season. 👀 one of the very few that asked to pump the brakes. Aging well. Others reading their posts from 3 years ago are like Sinatra … “Regrets, I’ve had a few”. This summer is the last year for the buyout to be 1/3. In 2026 Glass will be 26 and the contract turns to 2/3’s. Yet another critical decision we can’t have Adams make. 1 1 1 Quote
JohnC Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 32 minutes ago, Pimlach said: To the Bold. Until now I hadn't connected the two. Adams was waaaayyy over his head. Thanks Terry. That EEE is working great. The owner has screwed up this franchise. The KA hire was an absurdity beyond anyone's imagination. The irony is that by hiring an unfit GM who would bend a knee to his desires, he ended up losing even more money because he created a product that a growing population of consumers would not tolerate paying for. Our billionaire saved a penny only to lose a dollar $$$. Simply stupid. It doesn't matter whether the Reinhart situation was related to Samuelsson's contract situation. In isolation, not signing Reinhart to a long-term deal when they had the opportunity to do so was a gross miscalculation that was on a malfeasance level. 3 2 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 40 minutes ago, JohnC said: Whether Samuelsson is on the team or not we still need that muscular defensive/defenseman. I'm not saying I'm high on him but I'm not also saying that I'm done with him. If the turns out to be a solid third pair player, then I find that acceptable. Trade him to Philly where I think his dad works. Maybe we could swap him for that Ristolainen guy. I hear he's available 🙂 2 1 Quote
JP51 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 17 hours ago, HumanSlinky39 said: He showed promise early on. Don't know what happened. Maybe his propensity for getting injured has caused him to alter his play? Whatever it is, he isn't good. That contract was given too soon. A lot of players, particularly D-men show promise early in their career then never really advance beyond that, or regress and disappear. This seems to be one of those cases. One of those cases that happen all too often for this team. 1 Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Not only is he constantly injured, which is a problem of reliability - the most games he's played in a season the last 4 years is 55 - but Samuelsson is 6'4, 225 and has 72 penalty minutes in 185 games played. That's one 2 minute penalty every 5 games. He's a friggin Lady Byng candidate! Not what you want from a player that size with minimal offensive skills. He should be an intimidating presence on the ice, and I don't mean fighting per se (but he shouldn't be afraid of that), but as a hitter and physically roughing up any forward who comes into the zone. And he's about to turn 25. He should be so dominating that people are challenging him and he's getting co-roughing penalties if not multiple majors. Between him and Power we have to have the softest and most spineless two defensemen combined who are over 6'4 and 220+. Those two should have been crushing it in the weight room and taking some MMA training the past three offseason just to be ready for some phyical scrapping. I'd rather see them get suspended for PEDs and be tough than what they are. SMH. I'm fine with trading him. And Power. Trade him and Power - even in a swap with multiple teams to try to get one defenseman the size of Samuelsson who has some gumption and toughness. 2 Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 12 hours ago, Pimlach said: We need a big tough guy back on this defense somewhere, might as well be in the 3rd pair. Clifton is a mid-size tough guy, we need a big tough defenseman somewhere on this team. If you keep Dahlin, Power, and Byram then Muel as a 3rd liner and does not bring enough. . He is not a strong physical force, he is not a solid and steady top 4 player, and he is not reliable to be ready to play. We don't need him. PS- I am not impressed in his PK ability either. Said the same thing above before reading this. I've been saying this for 2-3 years now. Thought Power would be that but he's soft as well. If he had the fire in his belly he could have been a guy who was on his way to being a Victor Hedman type which is what you want in a 6'6 defender. He's 221. He should be 225-230 range by now and getting big hits. Both of them should. Maybe Novikov will become that guy but it's gonna be a bit. He has that ruggedness in him but he still needs to get stronger and a bit bigger (215 range). And he's a year away. But It would be great to get a veteran who is already an intimidator. And then if Novikov can come up next year, we could have two defenders who are more physical than anyone on the defense (though yeah, Clifton is nice to have but he's not going to make anyone think twice about roughing up our more talented players). 1 2 Quote
LabattBlue Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Trade him for peanuts, or buy him out. Injury prone turd. Quote
French Collection Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 12 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Trade him to Philly where I think his dad works. Maybe we could swap him for that Ristolainen guy. I hear he's available 🙂 Torts would make him pee his pants. 2 Quote
Dreams Burn Down Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 55 minutes ago, French Collection said: Torts would make him pee his pants. That would be another LBI designation. 1 2 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Dreams Burn Down said: That would be another LBI designation. He would get diaper rash, which would turn into an infection that would result in a debate for a controversial skin grafting procedure where Muel would want one treatment vs. the team wanting another. They trade him to Vegas, he gets his chosen procedure, proceeds to win a Stanley cup while playing every game healthy. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 19 hours ago, inkman said: Please stop just making things up. I want this season to end so badly. Just put us down like ol’ yeller. I’m tired of the nonsense. Hmmmmm, maybe I was onto something?? Quote
inkman Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: Hmmmmm, maybe I was onto something?? Onto what? Nothing has happened. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 4 hours ago, inkman said: Onto what? Nothing has happened. That's why I said "maybe" Quote
SwampD Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, Stoner said: Remember when many wanted RD sent OOT? Who's RD? Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 9 hours ago, SwampD said: Who's RD? Rasmus Dahlin I'm guessing. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 On 2/5/2025 at 8:34 PM, BuffalOhio said: Why, with the poor defense we've had for the last several years, does Marty Wilford still have a job? Been saying this for over a year now. Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 11 hours ago, Stoner said: Remember when many wanted RD sent OOT? Nope. Quote
Stoner Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Nope. I sure do. Quote
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