Stoner Posted yesterday at 12:26 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:26 AM (edited) Last 30/first 30 2022: 16-11-3... 14-14-2 2023: 16-11-3... 12-15-3 2024: 16-12-2... 11-15-4 The Sabres are already pacing for a strong finish given a 10-7-1 record since The Streak ended. Would a longer period of sustained success be more predictive of a carryover to next season? It sure wasn't in 2023. The Sabres finished 30-19-5 and missed by a point. The key might be how the braintrust (teehee) views the finish. Tinker at the fringes vs. HEY! Maybe we've got something here. Edited yesterday at 12:27 AM by Stoner 2 Quote
K-9 Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM There is absolutely ZERO evidence it will be different next year. ZERO. But the powers that be will convince themselves that it will be different like they do every year and do absolutely nothing to make that happen. Quote
inkman Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Report Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM I think a lot of it is continuing to ice the youngest team in the league. Slow starts to seasons, can’t close out would be victories, no physical response to aggression (that’s more on roster makeup than age). 1 5 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM GMKA is hoping for another strong finish so that maybe the fans won’t demand his firing…..funny thing is, he ain’t getting fired anyway because of his dad Terry Pegula loves him. 1 Quote
Indabuff Posted yesterday at 04:06 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:06 AM 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: he ain’t getting fired anyway because of his dad Terry Pegula loves him. 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted yesterday at 04:07 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:07 AM No, it won't be different. Quote
Doohicksie Posted yesterday at 04:29 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:29 AM Give me a reason why it would be different. I want to believe but... Quote
Second Line Center Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM 4 hours ago, Stoner said: Last 30/first 30 2022: 16-11-3... 14-14-2 2023: 16-11-3... 12-15-3 2024: 16-12-2... 11-15-4 The Sabres are already pacing for a strong finish given a 10-7-1 record since The Streak ended. Would a longer period of sustained success be more predictive of a carryover to next season? It sure wasn't in 2023. The Sabres finished 30-19-5 and missed by a point. The key might be how the braintrust (teehee) views the finish. Tinker at the fringes vs. HEY! Maybe we've got something here. Absolutely nothing they can do now under zero pressure should change any minds of this group. 1 Quote
Weave Posted yesterday at 09:59 AM Report Posted yesterday at 09:59 AM Mmmmm….. garbage time. 2 Quote
Demoted Posted yesterday at 10:27 AM Report Posted yesterday at 10:27 AM (edited) 10 hours ago, Stoner said: Last 30/first 30 2022: 16-11-3... 14-14-2 2023: 16-11-3... 12-15-3 2024: 16-12-2... 11-15-4 The Sabres are already pacing for a strong finish given a 10-7-1 record since The Streak ended. Would a longer period of sustained success be more predictive of a carryover to next season? It sure wasn't in 2023. The Sabres finished 30-19-5 and missed by a point. The key might be how the braintrust (teehee) views the finish. Tinker at the fringes vs. HEY! Maybe we've got something here. Crazy that people still think like this when it comes to the Sabres. Sabres prove there is no such thing as carryover. The only thing that is certain is the Sabres are the only team in history that can rewrite what it means to hit rock bottom so many times. Edited yesterday at 10:28 AM by Demoted 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted yesterday at 12:35 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:35 PM 8 hours ago, Second Line Center said: Absolutely nothing they can do now under zero pressure should change any minds of this group. Not even if they rip off 20 in a row and make the playoffs? 1 Quote
Thorner Posted yesterday at 01:33 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:33 PM (edited) The only way it can be shaped into a positive is if they address the roster reflective of their record over 82, and not as if they are “really” only their good stretch if you only supplement the team based on the latter, the team will only be good when it’s at its best, again. But it’s not about peak: it’s about a balanced roster to endure the waves of a season Edited yesterday at 01:34 PM by Thorner Quote
mjd1001 Posted yesterday at 01:43 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:43 PM I used to think there was some carry-over from the way you finished one season to the beginning of the other. Of course, it would depend on what you did in the offseason, but I THOUGHT if you finished strong at the end of one season, it was at least a sign that your team had turned some kind of corner. This team the last few years though....nope. Prove it to me. I'll even take it one step further...this team during the drought has had GOOD starts and then faded and missed the playoffs. I'm not going to beleilve anything with this team until they can complete a 95+ point, in the playoff season. Quote
Pimlach Posted yesterday at 02:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:07 PM (edited) The last 30 games looks like an anomaly. No pressure. Roster maybe absorbed a few more rookies. Whatever. For next season the GM will make a few minor moves. The players will be overconfident while making cute promotional videos in the off season. A few more players will regress and the team will start poorly, then fade completely, and be out of the race by Christmas. Edited yesterday at 03:48 PM by Pimlach Quote
JohnC Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM When a person makes the same mistake in three consecutive years, that person is a certifiable dope. This superficial thinking GM believes that the key to success is accumulating talent. What he doesn't understand is that collecting talent and properly constructing a team are qualitatively different. This roster needs to be balanced out with veteran additions. If he would have added another Zucker or two to the forward group and another veteran blueliner, this roster would have been not only better but would have been able to avoid a season sabotaging 13 game swoon. Last offseason, the additions I stated here were doable. It wasn't so much an issue of making a blockbuster deal that is likely to gut your roster as it would have been making enough solid mid-level deals that make your team better. The same cycle of similar mistakes continue to get made by this sycophantic GM. And the same results happen. When will he learn? 1 1 Quote
JP51 Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM The longer Adams stays around, the more concerned I am going to be that there will be no changes... and if there are no changes... optimism is not a word I would use... more like despair... IF they do make changes and those changes are to move Adams and shuffle internally... again despair... If they gut and bring in personnel that insist on Hockey control with a vision and are competent and Terry moves to this model... then yes I have some optimism... however, in this scenario I am thinking there is a possibility that a new Regime would want to at minimum significantly re tool if not tear down and rebuild... so my optimism would not be for next year... In the end, with regards to optimism for next year, I feel like we are f$%k3ed.... Quote
K-9 Posted yesterday at 02:31 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:31 PM 13 hours ago, inkman said: I think a lot of it is continuing to ice the youngest team in the league. Slow starts to seasons, can’t close out would be victories, no physical response to aggression (that’s more on roster makeup than age). The “youngest team in the league” label is KA’s favorite crutch. 2 Quote
inkman Posted yesterday at 02:39 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:39 PM 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: The “youngest team in the league” label is KA’s favorite crutch. It’s killing the franchise 2 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted yesterday at 03:04 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:04 PM A strong finish only correlates to a strong start the next season when the team is good. The Sabres are not a good team. (yet) Quote
Stoner Posted yesterday at 03:08 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 03:08 PM 4 hours ago, Demoted said: Crazy that people still think like this when it comes to the Sabres. Sabres prove there is no such thing as carryover. The only thing that is certain is the Sabres are the only team in history that can rewrite what it means to hit rock bottom so many times. Think like what? It's data and a question. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM We fu*kin' around with the definition of insanity here. Quote
inkman Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM 39 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: We fu*kin' around with the definition of insanity here. This saying is always a sore spot for me. The dumbest bosses I’ve ever had would drop this phrase multiple times a day and I just can’t take it anymore. It’s a misattributed quote from Einstein that was written in some book in the 80’s and has nothing to do with the actual definition of insanity. https://www.reddit.com/r/PetPeeves/s/fw9oLKdP5E 1 Quote
Second Line Center Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago 10 hours ago, Doohicksie said: Not even if they rip off 20 in a row and make the playoffs? Ok. That’s the only thing. Not even 10 or 20 in a row. Go 17-3 in the next 20 then we can talk. Quote
Doohicksie Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, Second Line Center said: Ok. That’s the only thing. Not even 10 or 20 in a row. Go 17-3 in the next 20 then we can talk. I'll be here. Quote
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