Strong finishes previous three seasons didn't carry over to the fall, but will 25-26 be different?

[Stoner]

Last 30/first 30

2022: 16-11-3... 14-14-2

2023: 16-11-3... 12-15-3

2024: 16-12-2... 11-15-4

The Sabres are already pacing for a strong finish given a 10-7-1 record since The Streak ended. Would a longer period of sustained success be more predictive of a carryover to next season?

It sure wasn't in 2023. The Sabres finished 30-19-5 and missed by a point.

The key might be how the braintrust (teehee) views the finish. Tinker at the fringes vs. HEY! Maybe we've got something here.

Edited yesterday at 12:27 AM by Stoner

[PerreaultForever]

no.

[K-9]

There is absolutely ZERO evidence it will be different next year. ZERO. But the powers that be will convince themselves that it will be different like they do every year and do absolutely nothing to make that happen. 

[inkman]

I think a lot of it is continuing to ice the youngest team in the league.  Slow starts to seasons, can’t close out would be victories, no physical response to aggression (that’s more on roster makeup than age).  

[Carmel Corn]

GMKA is hoping for another strong finish so that maybe the fans won’t demand his firing…..funny thing is, he ain’t getting fired anyway because of his dad Terry Pegula loves him.

[Indabuff]

1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said:

he ain’t getting fired anyway because of his dad Terry Pegula loves him.

[LGR4GM]

No, it won't be different. 

[Doohicksie]

Give me a reason why it would be different.  I want to believe but...

[Second Line Center]

4 hours ago, Stoner said:

Last 30/first 30

2022: 16-11-3... 14-14-2

2023: 16-11-3... 12-15-3

2024: 16-12-2... 11-15-4

The Sabres are already pacing for a strong finish given a 10-7-1 record since The Streak ended. Would a longer period of sustained success be more predictive of a carryover to next season?

It sure wasn't in 2023. The Sabres finished 30-19-5 and missed by a point.

The key might be how the braintrust (teehee) views the finish. Tinker at the fringes vs. HEY! Maybe we've got something here.

 

Absolutely nothing they can do now under zero pressure should change any minds of this group.  

[Weave]

Mmmmm….. garbage time.

[Demoted]

 

10 hours ago, Stoner said:

Last 30/first 30

2022: 16-11-3... 14-14-2

2023: 16-11-3... 12-15-3

2024: 16-12-2... 11-15-4

The Sabres are already pacing for a strong finish given a 10-7-1 record since The Streak ended. Would a longer period of sustained success be more predictive of a carryover to next season?

It sure wasn't in 2023. The Sabres finished 30-19-5 and missed by a point.

The key might be how the braintrust (teehee) views the finish. Tinker at the fringes vs. HEY! Maybe we've got something here.

Crazy that people still think like this when it comes to the Sabres.

 

Sabres prove there is no such thing as carryover. The only thing that is certain is the Sabres are the only team in history that can rewrite what it means to hit rock bottom so many times.

Edited 14 hours ago by Demoted

[Doohicksie]

8 hours ago, Second Line Center said:

 

Absolutely nothing they can do now under zero pressure should change any minds of this group.  

Not even if they rip off 20 in a row and make the playoffs?

[Thorner]

The only way it can be shaped into a positive is if they address the roster reflective of their record over 82, and not as if they are “really” only their good stretch

if you only supplement the team based on the latter, the team will only be good when it’s at its best, again.

But it’s not about peak: it’s about a balanced roster to endure the waves of a season 

Edited 11 hours ago by Thorner

[mjd1001]

I used to think there was some carry-over from the way you finished one season to the beginning of the other.  Of course, it would depend on what you did in the offseason, but I THOUGHT if you finished strong at the end of one season, it was at least a sign that your team had turned some kind of corner.  This team the last few years though....nope.  Prove it to me.  I'll even take it one step further...this team during the drought has had GOOD starts and then faded and missed the playoffs.  

I'm not going to beleilve anything with this team until they can complete a 95+ point, in the playoff season.

[Pimlach]

The last 30 games looks like an anomaly.  No pressure.  Roster maybe absorbed a few more rookies.  Whatever.  
 

For next season the GM will make a few minor moves.  The players will be overconfident while making cute promotional videos in the off season.  A few more players will regress and the team will start poorly, then fade completely, and be out of the race by Christmas.  

Edited 9 hours ago by Pimlach

[JohnC]

When a person makes the same mistake in three consecutive years, that person is a certifiable dope. This superficial thinking GM believes that the key to success is accumulating talent. What he doesn't understand is that collecting talent and properly constructing a team are qualitatively different. This roster needs to be balanced out with veteran additions. If he would have added another Zucker or two to the forward group and another veteran blueliner, this roster would have been not only better but would have been able to avoid a season sabotaging 13 game swoon. 

Last offseason, the additions I stated here were doable. It wasn't so much an issue of making a blockbuster deal that is likely to gut your roster as it would have been making enough solid mid-level deals that make your team better.  The same cycle of similar mistakes continue to get made by this sycophantic GM. And the same results happen. When will he learn?

[JP51]

The longer Adams stays around, the more concerned I am going to be that there will be no changes... and if there are no changes... optimism is not a word I would use...  more like despair...  IF they do make changes and those changes are to move Adams and shuffle internally... again despair...  If they gut and bring in personnel that insist on Hockey control with a vision and are competent and Terry moves to this model... then yes I have some optimism... however, in this scenario I am thinking there is a possibility that a new Regime would want to at minimum significantly re tool if not tear down and rebuild... so my optimism would not be for next year... 

In the end, with regards to optimism for next year, I feel like we are f$%k3ed.... 

 

[K-9]

13 hours ago, inkman said:

I think a lot of it is continuing to ice the youngest team in the league.  Slow starts to seasons, can’t close out would be victories, no physical response to aggression (that’s more on roster makeup than age).  

The “youngest team in the league” label is KA’s favorite crutch.

[inkman]

7 minutes ago, K-9 said:

The “youngest team in the league” label is KA’s favorite crutch.

It’s killing the franchise 

[DarthEbriate]

A strong finish only correlates to a strong start the next season when the team is good. The Sabres are not a good team.

(yet)

[Stoner]

4 hours ago, Demoted said:

 

Crazy that people still think like this when it comes to the Sabres.

 

Sabres prove there is no such thing as carryover. The only thing that is certain is the Sabres are the only team in history that can rewrite what it means to hit rock bottom so many times.

Think like what? It's data and a question.

[That Aud Smell]

We fu*kin' around with the definition of insanity here.

[inkman]

39 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

We fu*kin' around with the definition of insanity here.

This saying is always a sore spot for me.  The dumbest bosses I’ve ever had would drop this phrase multiple times a day and I just can’t take it anymore.  It’s a misattributed quote from Einstein that was written in some book in the 80’s and has nothing to do with the actual definition of insanity. 
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/PetPeeves/s/fw9oLKdP5E

[Second Line Center]

10 hours ago, Doohicksie said:

Not even if they rip off 20 in a row and make the playoffs?

Ok.  That’s the only thing.  Not even 10 or 20 in a row.  
 

Go 17-3 in the next 20 then we can talk.