GASabresIUFAN Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) The cap for next year could be as high as $93 million, but we all know that the team has an internal cap. If they bring back most of this current failed squad they will have zero $ for actual upgrades without moving on from Power, Cozens and/ or some other high priced player(s). Here is the situation in a nutshell. There are 13 current Sabres under contract for next season for 61.793 million (including 4.44 to Skinner) Forwards: The Sabres have 8 forwards under contract (TNT, Cozens, Tuch, Lafferty, Malenstyn, Krebs, Benson and Kulich). Cap cost 25.629 Defense: 4 "Defenders" (and I use that term loosely) are under contract for nearly $27 million (Clifton, Dahlin, Samuelsson, & Power). Goaltending: 1 UPL 4.75 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EIVzd3tGEpaoQXCXkE3DkiksczGJvlc8GywXZl0Twjo/edit?gid=1769332179#gid=1769332179 Mid-season contract projections from AFP Sabres UFAs - Zucker (2 years $5 per season), Greenway (4 year 3.74) RFAs = McLeod (3 years 2.947); Byram (ST) (2 years 5.073), (LT) (7 years 7.045); Quinn (ST) (2 year 3.371), (LT) (6 years 5.624); JJP (ST) (2 years 4.091), (LT) (6 Years 5.624) Using these contract estimates and bringing back all the RFAs and UFAs listed with LT deals for Byram and JJP and a bridge for Quinn, the Sabres would have a cap of 90.364 million for only 19 players (13F, 5D & 1G). Obviously this isn't sustainable, it would still be a horrible roster and at 90 million, it will be above TP's internal cap. We still be missing defenders who can defend and playmakers to make the offense go. It's a pretty grim state of affairs. Here is what that roster would look like. JJP Cozens Thompson Benson Kulich Tuch Zucker McLeod Quinn Greenway Krebs Malenstyn (Lafferty) Dahlin ????? Byram Power Clifton Samuelsson UPL ????? My guess is that the internal cap for next season with be about 85 to 86 million. To get there, Adams will have to let Greenway walk (allowing Kozak to take his job) and bridging all the RFAs. Those decisions will bring the projected cap back down to about 81.5 million, but still leave us short one goalie, a partner for Dahlin, 2 depth defensemen and without any help on offense. I don't see how Adams can reasonably fix all those holes, much less improve the squad of 4.5 to 6 million. The only way to fix this crap roster is to move on from at least 2 major contracts and use the saving to fix other roster holes. Step 1 is deciding to keep either Power or Byram and then trading the other. Step 2 is trading Cozens. These two moves clears $15 million from the internal cap allowing money to be invested in actually defensemen and maybe, just maybe a top 6 center. Edited 2 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN Quote
Flashsabre Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Did this really need to be a thread? It’s not fact but rather what you want to see happen. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Did this really need to be a thread? It’s not fact but rather what you want to see happen. First the 13 players under contract for nearly 62 million is fact. Second we have 4 current RFAs on the roster who will almost certainly be retained and AFP's models have been very good. So if you follow the model and the players under contract you come up with 17 players for about 80 million (using only bridge deals) with no upgrades. This may not be "fact" but it's simple logic given Adams' operating history and the players involved. This is before trying to keep either vet (Greenway or Zucker), going against the grain and not locking up either Byram or JJP long-term or even completing the roster. No matter how you spin it, the Sabres are in a difficult starting position to upgrade the roster. So yes this needs it's own thread and needs to be discussed. I'm not even suggesting what I truly want done. I'm only going where the number say we are going and trying to look at it from the Adams/TP point of view. If you read the number differently please show us. Quote
Indabuff Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I just can't fathom how in the blue ***** an abysmal team at the bottom of the standings could possibly be tight against the cap. And the hits just keep on coming. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago This is why Sheevyn was shaving up all those dollars in the last 4 years. JJP needs 1W money and Quinn needs 2W money. Trade Greenway (if healthy), Jokiharju, and Zucker at the deadline. Next season, make room for Isak Rosen, Ryan Johnson, Nikita Novikov, Tyler Kozak, and Devon Levi. 1 Quote
Weave Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: This is why Sheevyn was shaving up all those dollars in the last 4 years. JJP needs 1W money and Quinn needs 2W money. Trade Greenway (if healthy), Jokiharju, and Zucker at the deadline. Next season, make room for Isak Rosen, Ryan Johnson, Nikita Novikov, Tyler Kozak, and Devon Levi. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Would it make you feel better if I told you everyone is a year older? 😇 JJP - Cozens - Thompson Benson - McLeod - Tuch Krebs - Kulich - Quinn Malenstyn - Kozak - Rosen (Lafferty) Byram - Dahlin Samuelsson - Power RJohnson - Clifton (Gilbert or equivalent, Novikov) Luukkonen Levi Now, if they get a top 5 pick... he's gotta play. Too young for the AHL, too good for Juniors. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: This is why Sheevyn was shaving up all those dollars in the last 4 years. JJP needs 1W money and Quinn needs 2W money. Trade Greenway (if healthy), Jokiharju, and Zucker at the deadline. Next season, make room for Isak Rosen, Ryan Johnson, Nikita Novikov, Tyler Kozak, and Devon Levi. So dump more vets, get younger, don’t improve the defense, stay at the internal cap and actually get worse again. What a plan. Quote
LTS Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Zucker and Greenway won't be there. I don't think Byram, JJP, or Quinn get long term contracts. I also don't think Cozens will be on this roster next year. All of that said, it's just about February, next season is a long time away and frankly this season is bad enough without me wanting to begin thinking about next season and any doom and gloom. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: So dump more vets, get younger, don’t improve the defense, stay at the internal cap and actually get worse again. What a plan. That's just it; there's no planning necessary. Trades are hard, because palm trees, but being the Sabres GM is easy. And if any of the RFAs signs an offer sheet -- take the picks. Because that means they don't want to be here. Quote
kas23 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago This is why I was hoping for the Cozens for Kasper trade to materialize. Sure, it starting over with a younger player, but it’s sort of like a do over for the Cozens contract. Quote
Ctaeth Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Further proof that this team is less than the sum of its parts Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted 53 minutes ago Author Report Posted 53 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, Two or less said: Why would Greenway re-sign? He won’t. Quote
JohnC Posted 47 minutes ago Report Posted 47 minutes ago 33 minutes ago, Two or less said: Why would Greenway re-sign? He gets the best contract offer from Buffalo. Quote
Weave Posted 36 minutes ago Report Posted 36 minutes ago 1 hour ago, DarthEbriate said: Would it make you feel better if I told you everyone is a year older? 😇 JJP - Cozens - Thompson Benson - McLeod - Tuch Krebs - Kulich - Quinn Malenstyn - Kozak - Rosen (Lafferty) Byram - Dahlin Samuelsson - Power RJohnson - Clifton (Gilbert or equivalent, Novikov) Luukkonen Levi Now, if they get a top 5 pick... he's gotta play. Too young for the AHL, too good for Juniors. So, basically run it back? What could go wrong? Quote
mjd1001 Posted 34 minutes ago Report Posted 34 minutes ago 52 minutes ago, LTS said: Zucker and Greenway won't be there. I don't think Byram, JJP, or Quinn get long term contracts. I also don't think Cozens will be on this roster next year. All of that said, it's just about February, next season is a long time away and frankly this season is bad enough without me wanting to begin thinking about next season and any doom and gloom. With every day that goes by, I fear the opposite. The team has shown very little that makes me think they don't think/want him as a big part of the future. He's 4th among forwards in ice time. Hes a fixture on either the 2nd or the first team PowerPlay. When tage got hurt and couldn't take faceoffs/play center, Cozens was promoted to first line center. I will be shocked (and delighted) if he isn't here next year. Quote
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