GDT: Sabres @ Kraken, Jan 20, 2025 - 4:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙

[Thorner]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

Yeah, the 'bumbling into a good hire' thing doesn't fly with this franchise.  The best hire in the world likely won't work for him.

Pegula needs to remove himself from most decision making, I don't see that happening.

The reason he can’t “bumble into a good hire” is because it’s nearly impossible for any GM to field a playoff team under the parameters he’s setting: the only people willing to take the job are wholly unqualified candidates like Adams who have no business being an nhl GM at all: thus the putrid results even relative to restrictions imposed 

you are right: Pegula is the central issue. The pool of candidates would be much larger and likely to produce a playoff team if Pegula actually cared about making the playoffs. But he doesn’t 

[LGR4GM]

[Thorner]

Ride out and MEET them

[LGR4GM]

8 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Ride out and MEET them

This team is less Theoden and more Wormtongue

Edited 11 hours ago by LGR4GM

[Thorner]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

This team is less Theoden and more Wormtongue

Why do you lay these troubles on an already troubled fan base? Can you not see we grow weary of your malcontent….your warmongering 

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Why do you lay these troubles on an already troubled fan base? Can you not see we grow weary of your malcontent….your warmongering 

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

He can’t remove himself from the decision making process when he is the decision making process.  

By decision making, I didn't mean deciding who the GM was...I mean once a GM is in place the roster building and front office building decisions that COULD be left a lot more to the GM.

[rickshaw]

How was Levi today? 

[Thorner]

2 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

By decision making, I didn't mean deciding who the GM was...I mean once a GM is in place the roster building and front office building decisions that COULD be left a lot more to the GM.

A wholly unqualified GM being left to his devices literally explains the poor results…never mind one upon which ridiculous handcuffs are imposed. You are trying way too hard. You’ve got him: it’s Terry. Him hiring awful candidates and handcuffing them explains our ineptitude. He’s not *also* vetoing the good ideas the unqualified people are coming up with for reasons best known to ourselves 

[Thorner]

It’s not “he’s hiring unqualified candidates who actually turn out to be suggesting good ideas for some reason which he then refuses to enact because he wants it to be his genius that saves the say” 

like it’s such an unnecessary added layer purely for the obviously see-through purposes of pretending Adams might be ok 

You can’t have your loophole. Adams is not good lol 

Edited 10 hours ago by Thorner

[ska-T Palmtown]

So it is settled. @Thorner will be the next GM, but all moves must be made by posting a poll on Sabrespace. 50 vote min. For regular stuff, simple majority - major moves 60%.

It's a better plan that what they have now.

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, rickshaw said:

How was Levi today? 

You ever watched the footage from the Hindenburg disaster? 

 

[mjd1001]

5 minutes ago, Thorner said:

A wholly unqualified GM being left to his devices literally explains the poor results…never mind one upon which ridiculous handcuffs are imposed. You are trying way too hard. You’ve got him: it’s Terry. Him hiring awful candidates and handcuffing them explains our ineptitude. He’s not *also* vetoing the good ideas the unqualified people are coming up with for reasons best known to ourselves 

I'm trying to heard? You responding to me clarifying a previous statement.

I said Pegula needs to remove himself from decision making and others seem to think I meant he has to remove himself from decisions making on any future GM's.  All I did is clarify that statement.  You, my friend, are trying to hard to make my comment into something that it isn't. 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

So it is settled. @Thorner will be the next GM, but all moves must be made by posting a poll on Sabrespace. 50 vote min. For regular stuff, simple majority - major moves 60%.

It's a better plan that what they have now.

You know how “ask the audience” on who wants to be a millionaire is almost always correct? Like there’s that thing that in large sample sizes you’ll generally get correct answers to common problems…I feel like it’s not stupid to suggest a sabrespace committee would have done a better job in the last 14 years than the management we had. Why not? 

[DarthEbriate]

13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

You ever watched the footage from the Hindenburg disaster? 

 

He left AHL rebounds in an NHL world. And at other times, his defenders blocked the shot, but being a small goalie he was far out to cut off the angle, and the blocked rebound went to an angle he couldn't cover and that his defenders couldn't get to quickly enough. He made a few very good reflex saves.

[Thorner]

Goalies are in fact the one position where you can say, on its face, “size matters”. Burden of proof is on any small goalie. It’s hard 

[Thorner]

On 2/9/2022 at 5:44 PM, Thorner said:

I haven’t seen him play really but I’ve been working under the assumption his raw ability/athleticism is frankly off the charts. It has to be, will need to be, to succeed at his size at the NHL level. He needs to buck a very significant trend, even more prominent nowadays. That’s the path to being the next Saros. 

The only answer is it’s a mark of how much of a statical trend he needs to overcome due to his size. If he was a few inches taller, he’d be the A prospect in all of hockey IMO

 

On 11/29/2021 at 8:52 AM, Thorner said:

Right, but his good stats didn't get him drafted high the first time, right? Prospect stats for goalies don't carry the projection weight that they do for other players - it's why Levi has fantastic numbers yet still finds himself at the bottom of our top 10 prospect list according to Kris Baker. It remains to be seen if, at his size, he can fend off NHL shots and that's on top of the usual goalie development caveats. 

6'0 is small for an NHL goalie - I don't see a team going there in the first round personally 

On the other hand, this is compelling 

 

[Slack_in_MA]

17 minutes ago, Thorner said:

You know how “ask the audience” on who wants to be a millionaire is almost always correct? Like there’s that thing that in large sample sizes you’ll generally get correct answers to common problems…I feel like it’s not stupid to suggest a sabrespace committee would have done a better job in the last 14 years than the management we had. Why not? 

Crowd-sourcing, basically.

[HOUSE]

I tuned in at 7pm for the game tonight but I see they already lost

I am so sorry I missed this one 😁

[SwampD]

I like Zucker, but boy, that fourth goal was some really bad awareness by him.

Seattle is all hustle.

The Sabres,… aren’t.

Edited 9 hours ago by SwampD

[Nitro60]

Still frost my cookies that this expansion team (I know that they have some years in the league) owns the Sabres.  They are a better team.  The Sabres have to revamp the organization before addressing the product on the ice.   This game was the usual train wreck.  Can they stop pulling the goalie?  This team is horrible with the man advantage.  How many empty net goals do they give up when Ruff stops the insanity.

[Andrew Amerk]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I tuned in at 7pm for the game tonight but I see they already lost

I am so sorry I missed this one 😁

This is what happened to me last Saturday. 
 

I sat down to watch the game at 7pm, only to discover I already missed them losing earlier in the day. 

[gilbert11]

5 hours ago, rickshaw said:

How many empty net goals have we given up? It must be a record.

Sabres inability to get games to OT is incredible.

And the amount of times a team scores right after us as well is astonishing.

Believe it or not they’re actually not leading the league yet.  They’ve given up 14 now.

Strangely, Colorado has given up the most with 16 and also scored the most ENG with 18.

[Broken Ankles]

7 hours ago, French Collection said:

Mrs Howell is in my wheelhouse nowadays, she was an old bat when I watched this show.

Fun fact.  Natalie Schaefer was 64 years old when Gilligan’s Island premiered in ‘64.  Jim Backus was only 51.  How many 51 one year old millionaires (Billionaires in 2025 dollars) are married to a senior citizen?  More probable than not a 2025 Thurston Howell III has a child bride younger than Mary Ann.  I’m older than Jim circa 1964 and it just crushes my ego, bc like you, I thought those two were ancient.   
 

 No comment on the game itself, other than 3-6 in their last nine. They are who we thought there were. 

[Stoner]

6 hours ago, Broken Ankles said:

Fun fact.  Natalie Schaefer was 64 years old when Gilligan’s Island premiered in ‘64.  Jim Backus was only 51.  How many 51 one year old millionaires (Billionaires in 2025 dollars) are married to a senior citizen?  More probable than not a 2025 Thurston Howell III has a child bride younger than Mary Ann.  I’m older than Jim circa 1964 and it just crushes my ego, bc like you, I thought those two were ancient.   
 

 No comment on the game itself, other than 3-6 in their last nine. They are who we thought there were. 

But if they could somehow flip that in the next nine... 6-3... hmmm.

Bill Hoppe would have them inching back into the playoff race. Harrington too. Oh, Mike.