mjd1001 Posted Sunday at 01:55 AM Report Posted Sunday at 01:55 AM Speaking on Friday's episode of the "32 Thoughts" podcast, Friedman confirmed that the Sabres and Red Wings were deep in discussions leading up to the NHL’s holiday trade freeze in December. “There’s definitely not a lot that gets out of Detroit, and there’s not very much that gets out of Buffalo,” Friedman said. “But finally, it got coughed up to me that they believe the Red Wings were looking at Cozens. And it fits. ”I think there’s a lot of people looking at Cozens. And I will say this, there was a time that a couple people said to me they thought it was close.” NHL insider Chris Johnston noted on Dec. 17 that Buffalo could be hesitant to move young players with upside after some of their recent moves backfired. full article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/red-wings-trade-for-sabres-dylan-cozens-was-close-before-roster-freeze/ar-BB1rhJw9?ocid=BingNewsSerp Quote
LabattBlue Posted Sunday at 02:12 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:12 AM “Trades are hard to complete”. Who was it that quote is attributed to? Quote
Flashsabre Posted Sunday at 02:14 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:14 AM Please don’t let Adams make any moves. Fire him and bring someone knowledgeable in. This is Buffalo though so they will announce Adam’s 3 year extension Monday morning 2 1 1 Quote
Weave Posted Sunday at 02:21 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:21 AM The hell would Detroit have that we would have interest in? Please don’t let it be picks or prospects. We’ve been kicking the can down the road for over a decade. 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Sunday at 02:27 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:27 AM (edited) Adams was holding out for an extra 3rd in 2033 and wouldn't complete the deal without it. Edited Sunday at 04:20 AM by GASabresIUFAN 1 2 Quote
Archie Lee Posted Sunday at 02:43 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:43 AM It only makes sense to me if the Sabres have determined they won’t get enough out of Cozens to warrant his salary. Then a trade for a useful and lower paid middle-six player (Compher, Copp) and a prospect maybe makes sense. I’m not saying I like it But I can see the logic. This would especially be true if we have an internal cap and the gap in salary between Cozens and a player like Compher, allows us to keep Zucker. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted Sunday at 02:46 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:46 AM 24 minutes ago, Weave said: The hell would Detroit have that we would have interest in? Please don’t let it be picks or prospects. We’ve been kicking the can down the road for over a decade. Dylan Larkin? 3 Quote
Weave Posted Sunday at 03:47 AM Report Posted Sunday at 03:47 AM 59 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Dylan Larkin? That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s their 1C. 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted Sunday at 03:55 AM Report Posted Sunday at 03:55 AM 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Dylan Larkin? For Cozens? If the issue was Tage couldn't take face offs, wouldn't Larkin be able to do that as well as Cozens does? Raymond? I doubt it's either of their 2 young dmen Quote
thewookie1 Posted Sunday at 04:26 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:26 AM 1 hour ago, Archie Lee said: It only makes sense to me if the Sabres have determined they won’t get enough out of Cozens to warrant his salary. Then a trade for a useful and lower paid middle-six player (Compher, Copp) and a prospect maybe makes sense. I’m not saying I like it But I can see the logic. This would especially be true if we have an internal cap and the gap in salary between Cozens and a player like Compher, allows us to keep Zucker. Rather keep Cozens then bail out a division rival of a badish contract only for Cozens to find God and play amazing for them. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted Sunday at 04:26 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:26 AM You're making the assumption that Adams would do a logical thing and trade for a player(s) that would help this team immediately. Wouldn't shock me in the least if they've already concluded this isn't the year and it'll be next year or the next next year and they would trade for Kasper or Danielson or some sort of package around one or more of them. Dumb? Yes. But it's Adams and Pegula. It's what they do. 1 2 Quote
Broken Ankles Posted Sunday at 04:28 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:28 AM 2 hours ago, Weave said: The hell would Detroit have that we would have interest in? Please don’t let it be picks or prospects. We’ve been kicking the can down the road for over a decade. Edvinsson? Big, left handed defenseman. Can never have too many. And, they get younger. Keeps the average age of the blue line below 25. Still on his ELC. Saves T Pegs $3.5M this season. Checks all the boxes. 1 Quote
Mr. Allen Posted Sunday at 04:38 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:38 AM Wasn’t there a report we really wanted Kasper but settled for Savoie? 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted Sunday at 04:42 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:42 AM 2 hours ago, Weave said: The hell would Detroit have that we would have interest in? Please don’t let it be picks or prospects. We’ve been kicking the can down the road for over a decade. Not answer you would even want to consider but I believe it’s Marco Kasper. When Ottawa agreed to the Matt Murray Deal and the swapping of draft picks in the first round in 2022, he was the player they were going to take a seventh overall. Whether he would have been the centerpiece for the return for the Sabres in a Cozens Trade is unknown. JT Compher reportedly did say he would consider going to teams that are not necessarily on other players radar. Cozens for Kasper and Compher maybe? I believe Detroit broke off negotiations to give McLelland a chance to assess the Red Wings before any moves are made 3 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM 2 hours ago, Weave said: The hell would Detroit have that we would have interest in? Please don’t let it be picks or prospects. We’ve been kicking the can down the road for over a decade. Kasper. 18 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: Edvinsson? Big, left handed defenseman. Can never have too many. And, they get younger. Keeps the average age of the blue line below 25. Still on his ELC. Saves T Pegs $3.5M this season. Checks all the boxes. Edvinsson, Power, Dahlin, Byram, R Johnson and Samuelsson. Now that's a d-corps. 😇 11 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said: Wasn’t there a report we really wanted Kasper but settled for Savoie? This is the way. Quote
Brawndo Posted Sunday at 04:50 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:50 AM 18 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Rather keep Cozens then bail out a division rival of a badish contract only for Cozens to find God and play amazing for them. If you compare Cozens to Eichel, Reinhart or ROR Metrics before the latter three were moved, they were light years ahead of where Cozens is. I do not see him making a huge impact like the other three did for their new organizations. Heck even Casey’s Metrics have slipped this year. 1 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted Sunday at 04:52 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:52 AM Edvinsson, Seider, Raymond and Larkin are probably untouchable from Detroit’s standpoint 1 1 Quote
Andrew Amerk Posted Sunday at 06:27 AM Report Posted Sunday at 06:27 AM We already had Compher, and he didn’t pan out well. Quote
mjd1001 Posted Sunday at 01:56 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 01:56 PM 9 hours ago, thewookie1 said: Rather keep Cozens then bail out a division rival of a badish contract only for Cozens to find God and play amazing for them. I agree with the concept but Cozens is just so bad. Without hyperbole, I think he actually hurts the team being out there. Let him go to another team and play amazing for them, he's not doing it here. 2-3 times a week he makes a play that puts the rest of the team in a bad position and I can't fathom how he isn't benched right away from it. He tanks the PP when he is on it. Everytime he gets new linemates they have some of the worst games they have had playing with him (statistically not even close). No forward on this team is worse than a -4 except for Cozens and the guys that were on the line with him most of the year. Tage and Zucker were both positive players all year, and just went negative after a couple games with Cozens. 11 forwards on this team have taken 30 or more shots on goal, he is the only one shooting under 10%. If you are getting calls from other teams about Cozens, then see what you can get from them that might be better than what Detroit offers of course. But its well past time for Cozens to go. Quote
OrangeSeatVertigo Posted Sunday at 02:02 PM Report Posted Sunday at 02:02 PM 11 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Please don’t let Adams make any moves. Fire him and bring someone knowledgeable in. This is Buffalo though so they will announce Adam’s 3 year extension Monday morning who would want the job? what a crappy situation to plop into Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Sunday at 02:46 PM Report Posted Sunday at 02:46 PM 8 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: We already had Compher, and he didn’t pan out well. He didn't pan out because he was traded for ROR before playing a game with the Sabres? Compher's career has been fine -- he's played over 500 games, been a 2C/3C defensive zone-start heavy player his entire career and is a -9 (because of one season on a very bad Avalanche squad). He averages a point every other game. 1 Quote
Mr. Allen Posted Sunday at 02:57 PM Report Posted Sunday at 02:57 PM 55 minutes ago, OrangeSeatVertigo said: who would want the job? what a crappy situation to plop into I would. I always do an awesome job turning the Sabres around to a championship team on my PlayStation…. Quote
Andrew Amerk Posted Monday at 06:22 AM Report Posted Monday at 06:22 AM 15 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: He didn't pan out because he was traded for ROR before playing a game with the Sabres? Compher's career has been fine -- he's played over 500 games, been a 2C/3C defensive zone-start heavy player his entire career and is a -9 (because of one season on a very bad Avalanche squad). He averages a point every other game. If he’s so great, then why did they trade him? How did that trade work out? Quote
tom webster Posted Monday at 10:54 AM Report Posted Monday at 10:54 AM On 1/11/2025 at 11:26 PM, PerreaultForever said: You're making the assumption that Adams would do a logical thing and trade for a player(s) that would help this team immediately. Wouldn't shock me in the least if they've already concluded this isn't the year and it'll be next year or the next next year and they would trade for Kasper or Danielson or some sort of package around one or more of them. Dumb? Yes. But it's Adams and Pegula. It's what they do. Kasper is definitely their target. They loved him in the draft and made the trade with Ottawa specifically to get him. If Murray didn’t veto that trade, he’d be a Sabre. 2 Quote
Archie Lee Posted Monday at 01:51 PM Report Posted Monday at 01:51 PM 2 hours ago, tom webster said: Kasper is definitely their target. They loved him in the draft and made the trade with Ottawa specifically to get him. If Murray didn’t veto that trade, he’d be a Sabre. Rasmussen was mentioned also, so it may have been Kasper and Rasmussen for Cozens and maybe a second piece. I’m not sure what I think of that. On the one hand I see the logic. Would this then send a healthy Kulich back to Rochester? Or Kasper to Rochester? The frustrating part is that the Sabres need to get to the point where they are trading the two pieces for one. Cozens and a prospect for a player who is better than Cozens makes a lot of sense. Cozens for a bottom six forward and a prospect, feels like the Mitts trade where we are kicking the can down the road (I say that fully acknowledging that Kasper may turn out to be a better player than Cozens). 1 1 Quote
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