Archie Lee Posted Friday at 07:15 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:15 PM Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Interesting. If Adams traded for a player only to dump him a year later, we wouldn't be calling him competent. I think that making the playoffs and icing a contending team, does give a GM some leeway on the competence meter. 1 Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted Friday at 07:16 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:16 PM 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Interesting. If Adams traded for a player only to dump him a year later, we wouldn't be calling him competent. If that move improved his roster we would. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Friday at 07:17 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:17 PM Just now, Archie Lee said: I think that making the playoffs and icing a contending team, does give a GM some leeway on the competence meter. And makes anything done by the team that hasn't made the playoffs incompetent. Life is easy. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Friday at 07:18 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:18 PM 3 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said: I think on a team with cup aspirations, Mitts is a 3C who can occasionally move up a line. Krejci might be a reasonable analog. He isn't in Bergeron's league. For the record, I don't think Mitts is even as good as Krejci (certainly not all 3 zones). Though, if you put Mitts on a top line with Pastrnak and ... Marchand or player X TBD, I think he can get more points than Krejci had in any single season. I do like that Boston's center spine continues to look... poor... for the foreseeable future. 1 Quote
Weave Posted Friday at 07:19 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:19 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Interesting. If Adams traded for a player only to dump him a year later, we wouldn't be calling him competent. Trading a 2C for a 3C is an interesting move. I guess good on COLs GM for recognizing that Casey in the playoffs wasn’t going to work and building up their 3rd line was better value? That Byram trade sure ain’t a negative trade in my eyes right now. Not that it was a positive trade lol Edited Friday at 07:20 PM by Weave 1 Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted Friday at 07:19 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:19 PM 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This is a pretty inconsequential trade, but wtf is Yzerman doing? Mrazek stinks. 1 Quote
Archie Lee Posted Friday at 07:20 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:20 PM Just now, PromoTheRobot said: And makes anything done by the team that hasn't made the playoffs incompetent. Life is easy. Not in my view. But never making the playoffs and getting further from the goal in year 5, will have a negative impact on how people view a GM and his moves. But then, that's pretty obvious, isn't it? 1 Quote
stinky finger Posted Friday at 07:25 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:25 PM 19 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said: Ugh. Really? I like Mitts...can't like anybody in Boston, though. Mitts has my full on hate effectively immediately. Quote
LGR4GM Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Adams gets credit for trading Mitts for a decent asset after that deal. 2 1 Quote
shrader Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:27 PM 6 minutes ago, SabreFinn said: To not make him pissed of and later same season have to meet him pissed off in the playoffs?? That's the least of your concerns when you're trying to improve your team. If you're legitimately concerned about a playoff matchup, you do exactly what they did and send him off to the other conference. This one is such a crazy fluke scenario that no one is ever going to plan for. Hell, there still no guarantee of a Dallas-Colorado matchup. 5 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said: My point being, serious hockey organizations...that know how to win...identify soft spots and move aggressively to fill them. The Sabres roster is largely one big soft spot because they are not serious about hockey. They implemented a rebuilding strategy centered around adding "skilled" forwards and puck moving defensemen with no consideration given to how the sum of the parts equal a good hockey team. I just want to try to have a discussion for once where we don't have to inject the sabre fan depression. It's good for the heart. 1 Quote
stinky finger Posted Friday at 07:29 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:29 PM 22 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Coyle to COL, Mitts to BOS, and more items to be figured out. Coyle fits for the bottom 6 playoff push. Is Mittelstadt the top 6 center that Boston has needed for 2 years to replace either Bergeron or Krejci? They’ll be wildly disappointed if that’s their thinking. Quote
The Jokeman Posted Friday at 07:31 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:31 PM 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Adams gets credit for trading Mitts for a decent asset after that deal. Assuming we can keep that asset long term. Quote
SabreFinn Posted Friday at 07:39 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:39 PM 3 minutes ago, shrader said: That's the least of your concerns when you're trying to improve your team. If you're legitimately concerned about a playoff matchup, you do exactly what they did and send him off to the other conference. This one is such a crazy fluke scenario that no one is ever going to plan for. Hell, there still no guarantee of a Dallas-Colorado matchup. I just want to try to have a discussion for once where we don't have to inject the sabre fan depression. It's good for the heart. No guarantees this year, but he is signing for eight years. I just know he was pissed and fans of hockey will witness an interesting battle. Senior Finnish hockey journalists compared the trade with how Boston traded Esposito in the 70s. But ofcourse the front office in Colorado did what they believed was the best thing to do. Quote
BuffalOhio Posted Friday at 07:40 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:40 PM 8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Assuming we can keep that asset long term. Did you watch him last night? He was atrocious from start to finish. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Friday at 07:43 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:43 PM 2 minutes ago, BuffalOhio said: Did you watch him last night? He was atrocious from start to finish. All our D are atrocious when they don’t play with Dahlin. Surprised Joki is still here. 17 minutes 1 Quote
shrader Posted Friday at 07:45 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:45 PM 3 minutes ago, SabreFinn said: No guarantees this year, but he is signing for eight years. I just know he was pissed and fans of hockey will witness an interesting battle. Senior Finnish hockey journalists compared the trade with how Boston traded Esposito in the 70s. But ofcourse the front office in Colorado did what they believed was the best thing to do. They traded away a guy who was headed to free agency. They have no control at that point over where he signs. If a team is worried about that kind of stuff, they've got serious issues. We need to point the criticism at a far more fun place,Carolina. I don't know if you're aware of the history there or not, but this board will enjoy any suffering that happens with that team. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Friday at 07:49 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:49 PM It’s seems like a pretty quiet trade deadline so far. Many bigger deals between the prior 4 nations and now, but much fewer depth players. I guess paying a first for Laughton may show the prices for players , even depth players is way to high to get deals done. Quote
SabreFinn Posted Friday at 07:54 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:54 PM Just now, shrader said: They traded away a guy who was headed to free agency. They have no control at that point over where he signs. If a team is worried about that kind of stuff, they've got serious issues. We need to point the criticism at a far more fun place,Carolina. I don't know if you're aware of the history there or not, but this board will enjoy any suffering that happens with that team. No, I do not know, but Dundon seems to be a person that people have opinions about. It seems they have taken several steps back, even if they are in a playoff spot. Might be a retool coming. So in that case there seems to be something to be happy about. And Rantanen was as pissed of on Carolina as he was on Avs. Quote
Thorner Posted Friday at 07:56 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:56 PM Adams has honestly done his part in making this deadline worth watching on a Friday I had off. extend the man 2 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Friday at 07:59 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:59 PM 15 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: All our D are atrocious when they don’t play with Dahlin. Surprised Joki is still here. 17 minutes For being healthy-scratched for trade purposes for a week: absolutely. Quote
LGR4GM Posted Friday at 08:02 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 08:02 PM Adams didnt do enough. Ik the draft and July 1 are the 2nd window but I am a bit disappointed in his lack of urgency especially with the prices being paid around the league. Quote
Brawndo Posted Friday at 08:03 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:03 PM Marchand to Florida per Friedman Quote
Thorner Posted Friday at 08:04 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:04 PM Just now, Brawndo said: Marchand to Florida per Friedman Quicker than tsn you beautiful bastage I love this board 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Friday at 08:07 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:07 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Adams didnt do enough. Ik the draft and July 1 are the 2nd window but I am a bit disappointed in his lack of urgency especially with the prices being paid around the league. Once he re-sign led Greenway and Zucker, he had no urgency to move anyone else as all the rest have no value or are under contract/control. Power, JJP, Quinn, Malone, and Byram can still be traded, kept or the RFAs re-signed in the off-season when more teams have cap space. Joker still here because he has no trade value Edited Friday at 08:07 PM by GASabresIUFAN Quote
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