2025 NHL Trade Deadline (March 7) Thread

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 minute ago, inkman said:

I really wouldn’t understand trading Alex Tuch.  He’s gotta be a part of the core moving forward.  If not, what’s the long term plan here. 

There is none.  We are now the Miami Marlins of the NHL, except they somehow managed to win a couple of championships.

[Brawndo]

 

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

There is none.  We are now the Miami Marlins of the NHL, except they somehow managed to win a couple of championships.

Pegula wanted the Sabres to be the Pittsburgh Penguins and instead ended up as the Pittsburgh Pirates 

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

Pegula wanted the Sabres to be the Pittsburgh Penguins and instead ended up as the Pittsburgh Pirates 

If Alex Tuch doesn't want to squander his career, he should take the take the Reinhart, Ullmark, Montour etc. road and not sign an extension. In that way he will put himself in a position to scan the market and sign with a normally run and less shambolic franchise. This hollow organization better get serious about its competitiveness because there will come a point where Dahlin will follow the Eichel model and let this lame organization publicly know that he wants out of this imprisoning franchise. Our silent owner has destroyed this franchise and eroded the already fading fanbase. It's both sad and maddening. 

[Flashsabre]

I mean if they trade Tuch for a first round pick or young prospect what the hell are we doing?

The only way I want  Tuch moved is if the return causes everyone to say “I can’t believe we got that”

[DarthEbriate]

7 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If Alex Tuch doesn't want to squander his career, he should take the take the Reinhart, Ullmark, Montour etc. road and not sign an extension. In that way he will put himself in a position to scan the market and sign with a normally run and less shambolic franchise. This hollow organization better get serious about its competitiveness because there will come a point where Dahlin will follow the Eichel model and let this lame organization publicly know that he wants out of this imprisoning franchise. Our silent owner has destroyed this franchise and eroded the already fading fanbase. It's both sad and maddening. 

Yes, we're probably the end of Tuch's contract away from another full "core is rotten" rebuild. If they trade Tuch or let him get to UFA, then Dahlin has to pull the plug for his career. And if Dahlin is out, it's at least another 5 years of rebuild because every top-4/top-6/1B-caliber goalie will be abandoning ship.

[Flashsabre]

The only way I accept another rebuild is if it is a new ownership group with a new FO with seasoned NHL Execs with a history of success in charge.

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

The only way I accept another rebuild is if it is a new ownership group with a new FO with seasoned NHL Execs with a history of success in charge.

If a new owner took over the franchise and hired the right person to oversee it, there wouldn't be a need to completely start over as if it were an expansion team. The right person in place should be able to make enough right moves to reshape this roster with the assets he already has in place. I don't know what our current silent is thinking. What I can say is that I'm tired of him and his foolishness. 

[SabresBillsFan]

Tuch was on the third line with Vegas if that tells you guys anything on which lines he really should be on.

[Gatorman0519]

Tuchs true value would be obvious on a contender. He is my favorite Sabre right now. Love his game. 

[DarthEbriate]

12 minutes ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Tuch was on the third line with Vegas if that tells you guys anything on which lines he really should be on.

Tuch is a top-6 RW on 29-30 other teams in the league right now, and now also Florida with Tkachuk's injury.

In 2021, Tuch was still an inconsistent 24-year-old kid. He was playing behind Stone (who is still a legit 1st liner when healthy) and a then 29-year-old Reilly Smith who hadn't yet lost a step and had a multi-season chemistry with Marchessault and William Karlsson. They also had James Neal alternating wings in their lineup that season. It was a stacked veteran crew capable of winning the Cup.

If Tuch were on Vegas the past couple years he'd be on Eichel's wing whenever Stone was out of the lineup. Fun note: Victor Olofsson is currently RW2 on Vegas because of injuries.

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 hours ago, Brawndo said:

 

Pegula wanted the Sabres to be the Pittsburgh Penguins and instead ended up as the Pittsburgh Pirates 

[rickshaw]

A buddy of mine just texted me “what’s up with Tuch to Vancouver?”

 

[PerreaultForever]

7 hours ago, inkman said:

I really wouldn’t understand trading Alex Tuch.  He’s gotta be a part of the core moving forward.  If not, what’s the long term plan here. 

You still think there's a plan?

[HumanSlinky39]

7 hours ago, shrader said:

6 teams is only halfway to Sillinger. 

Only six? Sheesh, feels like he's played for everyone at one point or another.

[JohnC]

5 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Tuch was on the third line with Vegas if that tells you guys anything on which lines he really should be on.

Tuck is a second line talent. If he is playing on the third line for a team that's a good indication that the team is either loaded with talent or that its roster building strategy is to spread the talent around instead of focusing it on the top two lines. If the Sabres trade Tuch it would be another franchise crushing mistake that has kept this rickety franchise stuck in its own muck of mediocrity. 

[shrader]

23 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Only six? Sheesh, feels like he's played for everyone at one point or another.

It’s probably because he was traded to Buffalo twice and also signed with the rags twice. 

[LGR4GM]

6 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Tuch was on the third line with Vegas if that tells you guys anything on which lines he really should be on.

Why the ***** should we care what line he played on in Vegas 4 years ago?

[dudacek]

57 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Why the ***** should we care what line he played on in Vegas 4 years ago?

Shh..

Lets pretend he’s not the 10th-highest scoring RW in the NHL over the past 3 seasons while being a consistent plus player over that span, unlike 5 of the nine guys ahead of him.

He’s put up 184 points 

An above-average 2nd line RW has maybe cracked 100 points in that span. An average 3rd liner has about 50.

https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20222023&seasonTo=20242025&gameType=2&position=R&sort=points,a_gamesPlayed&page=0&pageSize=50

Sabres suck. Alex Tuch is a very good hockey player, who as also been a good Sabre.

 

[jahnyc]

Tuch is exactly the type of player you don't trade.

[GASabresIUFAN]

34 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

Tuch is exactly the type of player you don't trade.

But is exactly the type of player a contender wants to acquire, especially with a year left on his bargain contract.

 

[thewookie1]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

But is exactly the type of player a contender wants to acquire, especially with a year left on his bargain contract.

 

Why would we care what they want; we have zero reason to trade Tuch. Hell he’s one of the few bright spots this team still has.

[GASabresIUFAN]

48 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Why would we care what they want; we have zero reason to trade Tuch. Hell he’s one of the few bright spots this team still has.

We don’t, but it’s why the teams are calling.  You forget that Adams is incompetent and teams are trying to see if they can steal Tuch. 

[Archie Lee]

I’ll just repeat other people’s points. There is a bit of mythology around what makes a 1st line winger. Most teams don’t have a Kucherov or Pasternak or Rantanen. As there are 32 teams in the NHL, there are, technically I guess, around 64 wingers with 1st line assignments. Tuch, in what has been a pretty workman-like, par for the course, type year, is around the 40th highest scoring winger in the NHL. He has played much of the year without a true top-6 center. He is good on the PK. He’s a leader. He is wanted around the league because of his speed, size, skill, smarts. He is a legit 1st line talent in my view. 

If the Sabres trade Cozens for futures, I could squint my eyes and vaguely imagine a scenario where in the off-season we utilize the saved cap space and the assets acquired to improve the team immediately. If we trade Tuch for futures, we are again just kicking the can down the road. 

[EM88]

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

If the Sabres trade Cozens for futures, I could squint my eyes and vaguely imagine a scenario where in the off-season we utilize the saved cap space and the assets acquired to improve the team immediately. If we trade Tuch for futures, we are again just kicking the can down the road. 

Is it possible Dylan Cozens is on the verge of turning his entire game around and becoming a complete player that helps the team?  I guess that is possible, and if that did happen it would be a great help for this team.

I do not think that is likely.

If we pass the trade deadline this week and he is still on the team however, I will be so let down as a Sabres fan. 

My thoughts will turn to him being here at least another year, maybe indefinitely. The thought of him being a  minus player for another year, of him making dumb mistakes that single-handedly cost goals and cause losses.  Thoughts of another wasted season with him being a 25 year old that is potential blocking a a better player from being in his position that at least won't hurt his team.  Of how pretty much every single player in this team plays worse when sharing the ice with him.

  All those thoughts, I do not think I could take facing at least another year of that in the face without having to walk away from this team for a bit.

Other fans are close to that same point with Adams. Some are with Pegula. I can understand that, and maybe the dysfunction with this team is signified by a representation of all 3 of those men.  Myself, I am, without a doubt, at that point with Dylan Cozens and how I view how serious this entire organization is.

Edited Monday at 01:32 PM by EM88

[JohnC]

10 hours ago, dudacek said:

Shh..

Lets pretend he’s not the 10th-highest scoring RW in the NHL over the past 3 seasons while being a consistent plus player over that span, unlike 5 of the nine guys ahead of him.

He’s put up 184 points 

An above-average 2nd line RW has maybe cracked 100 points in that span. An average 3rd liner has about 50.

https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20222023&seasonTo=20242025&gameType=2&position=R&sort=points,a_gamesPlayed&page=0&pageSize=50

Sabres suck. Alex Tuch is a very good hockey player, who as also been a good Sabre.

 

You can also add to the impressive offensive portrait of Tuch that he is one of our best penalty killers. My fear is not that he will be traded but rather does he want to remain with this substandard organization.