LGR4GM Posted Saturday at 03:59 AM Author Report Posted Saturday at 03:59 AM 7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: McDavid was of course hyperbole, but as I said, you'd need to get a proven young top line/pair player. Tkachuk fits that description and I certainly would listen to that deal. However my point still stands and thank you for proving it. For the Sabres to trade JJP they'd need to receive an significant upgrade to the roster. There is no way the Sabres are trading their best young forward with upside for a prospects, picks, or even a group of middle of the roster players. As to where JJP stands on this roster; he is tied for 3rd in points by forwards (1 pt from 2nd). He is 2nd in assists, he is 4th in goals, but 3rd 5 on 5. He is also tied for 1st in 5 on 5 total assists and 3rd in primary assists 5 on 5 by forwards. By the way, I'm not putting much stock in the NHL.COM's giveaway stats. Across the board for the entire Sabres roster they are 2-3 times what they were last year. For example they have Dahlin at 1.28 GvA/60 in 2023/24 and 3.57 this year, Tuch at 1.27 last year and 2.61 this year. As much as I bitch about the poor state of our defense, the HDCA is about the same as last season. Admittedly its not good, but it's not 2-3 times worse. If we were giving the puck away at the level described on NHL.com those HDCA would be significantly worse and they aren't. While I'm an advocate for change, there are some good players on this team to build around besides Tage and Dahlin. I think JJP is one of those players. I'm not saying he is untouchable, but it's going to have to be a move that seriously moves the needle. In general I'm listening to offers for everyone not named TNT, Dahlin. However JPP, Tuch and Benson would have to be extremely good offers (like Tkachuk for JPP as mentioned above), and I'm not willing to trade both Byram and Power, but I am willing to trade one. I also want Zucker and Greenway re-signed. Unfortunately, I don't think we get a choice. He is obviously going to be making the deadline decisions and I honestly but sadly believe TP will give him next season as well. Sorry. https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/brock-boeser-mikko-rantanen-crack-top-4-on-tsn-trade-bait-board-a-week-out-from-nhl-trade-deadline-1.2261038 Him being 3rd on this roster in points isn't relevant. Again it depends who he would be traded for. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted Saturday at 08:37 PM Report Posted Saturday at 08:37 PM (edited) Nyqvist nets a 2nd round pick from the Wild, but it requires 50% retention to get it done ($3.185M cap hit & base salary). Guerin sets the market this week. Will Pegula be willing to retain salary in any moves? Edited Saturday at 08:39 PM by DarthEbriate Quote
mjd1001 Posted Saturday at 09:06 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:06 PM 28 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Nyqvist nets a 2nd round pick from the Wild, but it requires 50% retention to get it done ($3.185M cap hit & base salary). Guerin sets the market this week. Will Pegula be willing to retain salary in any moves? Probably not. Not unless it is a major deal. This team is not making the playoffs this year, so no extra playoff revenue. I don't think Pegula retains salary for a move that will help them NEXT year, he'll likely worry about that in the offseason. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Saturday at 09:28 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:28 PM 50 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Will Pegula be willing to retain salary in any moves? No. 2 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Saturday at 09:30 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:30 PM Colorado's GM remains very active acquiring Lindgren from the Rangers for DeHaan, picks and others https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/colorado-avalanche-get-ryan-lindgren-jimmy-vesey-in-trade-with-new-york-rangers-1.2263059 Quote
mjd1001 Posted Saturday at 10:54 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:54 PM 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Colorado's GM remains very active acquiring Lindgren from the Rangers for DeHaan, picks and others https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/colorado-avalanche-get-ryan-lindgren-jimmy-vesey-in-trade-with-new-york-rangers-1.2263059 We really need the Sabres to make some kind of move, if for no other reason than to give us something else to talk about, some other players to talk about and evaluate...and most importantly for us to at least feel Buffalo is part of the league. Quote
Archie Lee Posted Saturday at 10:58 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:58 PM 2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: Nyqvist nets a 2nd round pick from the Wild, but it requires 50% retention to get it done ($3.185M cap hit & base salary). Guerin sets the market this week. Will Pegula be willing to retain salary in any moves? I may not fully understand how salary retention works, but I assume it is as straight forward as it sounds. Per Puckpedia, Zucker received a $1,000,000.00 signing bonus and his base salary is $4,000,000.00. The Sabres will have played 61 games as of Mar 6. If Zucker is traded on the deadline, he will be owed approximately $1,025,000.00 for the rest of the season. 50% retention would be just over $500k. If the owner won't fork-out $500k to get a 2nd rd pick instead of a 3rd, that says a lot re: what we can hope for from this organization. Quote
shrader Posted Sunday at 12:20 AM Report Posted Sunday at 12:20 AM 1 hour ago, Archie Lee said: I may not fully understand how salary retention works, but I assume it is as straight forward as it sounds. Per Puckpedia, Zucker received a $1,000,000.00 signing bonus and his base salary is $4,000,000.00. The Sabres will have played 61 games as of Mar 6. If Zucker is traded on the deadline, he will be owed approximately $1,025,000.00 for the rest of the season. 50% retention would be just over $500k. If the owner won't fork-out $500k to get a 2nd rd pick instead of a 3rd, that says a lot re: what we can hope for from this organization. Ii wouldn’t expect any owner to want to pay up for that small of a return. 1 Quote
Archie Lee Posted Sunday at 01:01 AM Report Posted Sunday at 01:01 AM 40 minutes ago, shrader said: Ii wouldn’t expect any owner to want to pay up for that small of a return. And yet, many do. Quote
Brawndo Posted Sunday at 01:06 AM Report Posted Sunday at 01:06 AM (edited) Chicago is retaining 2.5 million of his salary, he is year 3 of his 8 year deal Edited Sunday at 01:08 AM by Brawndo Quote
LGR4GM Posted Sunday at 01:29 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 01:29 AM 21 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Chicago is retaining 2.5 million of his salary, he is year 3 of his 8 year deal Did... did Florida hit their head on something? Like a lobotomy pick. Quote
Brawndo Posted Sunday at 01:38 AM Report Posted Sunday at 01:38 AM 7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Did... did Florida hit their head on something? Like a lobotomy pick. Not sure- he is an offense driver this season, but his defense-woof Quote
LGR4GM Posted Sunday at 01:42 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 01:42 AM 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Not sure- he is an offense driver this season, but his defense-woof And it's 5 more years. Quote
Flashsabre Posted Sunday at 01:44 AM Report Posted Sunday at 01:44 AM 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Did... did Florida hit their head on something? Like a lobotomy pick. Maybe they see him as Ekblad’s replacement who is a UFA this summer. IDK Also, Ekblad would be perfect beside Power😁 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted Sunday at 07:23 AM Report Posted Sunday at 07:23 AM 5 hours ago, Brawndo said: Not sure- he is an offense driver this season, but his defense-woof I assume they think he can fill the hole Montour left. In their system he just might. Montour was pretty "defense-woof" when he was a Sabre. Quote
Flashsabre Posted Sunday at 03:03 PM Report Posted Sunday at 03:03 PM Yeah let’s not be the team that buys out that contract. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM Report Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM 24 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Yeah let’s not be the team that buys out that contract. Come on, doesn’t Ehrhoff’s contract come off the books soon? 1 Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted Sunday at 05:02 PM Report Posted Sunday at 05:02 PM 19 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Colorado's GM remains very active acquiring Lindgren from the Rangers for DeHaan, picks and others https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/colorado-avalanche-get-ryan-lindgren-jimmy-vesey-in-trade-with-new-york-rangers-1.2263059 I think that means Vesey has now played for every team in the league. 2 Quote
shrader Posted Sunday at 05:08 PM Report Posted Sunday at 05:08 PM 5 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said: I think that means Vesey has now played for every team in the league. 6 teams is only halfway to Sillinger. Quote
Brawndo Posted Sunday at 05:14 PM Report Posted Sunday at 05:14 PM 9 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I assume they think he can fill the hole Montour left. In their system he just might. Montour was pretty "defense-woof" when he was a Sabre. Zito knows Jones from Columbus and built a SC Champion, I trust his judgement. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Sunday at 05:14 PM Report Posted Sunday at 05:14 PM (edited) On 3/2/2025 at 12:09 PM, Brawndo said: I’m sure teams are calling on nearly every decent Sabres player. Why not? Adams is an idiot and maybe they can steal a good player. However what does a team like TB have to offer? They aren’t trading a Cernak or anyone else we can use. All they have is a poor stable of prospects and more draft picks we don’t need. Edited Wednesday at 02:28 PM by GASabresIUFAN Quote
inkman Posted Sunday at 05:14 PM Report Posted Sunday at 05:14 PM 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I really wouldn’t understand trading Alex Tuch. He’s gotta be a part of the core moving forward. If not, what’s the long term plan here. Quote
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