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Kevyn Adams is incompetent 

According to Greg Wyshynski of ESPN it's sounding like:

 

Carolina: Mikko Rantanen, Taylor Hall

Colorado: Martin Necas, Jack Drury, 2025 2nd and 2026 4th

Chicago: 2025 3rd (their own) and 50% retained on Rantanen

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37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Kevyn Adams is incompetent 

According to Greg Wyshynski of ESPN it's sounding like:

 

Carolina: Mikko Rantanen, Taylor Hall

Colorado: Martin Necas, Jack Drury, 2025 2nd and 2026 4th

Chicago: 2025 3rd (their own) and 50% retained on Rantanen

Crazy.  There are teams that want to win and then there is the Sabres.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Kevyn Adams is incompetent 

According to Greg Wyshynski of ESPN it's sounding like:

 

Carolina: Mikko Rantanen, Taylor Hall

Colorado: Martin Necas, Jack Drury, 2025 2nd and 2026 4th

Chicago: 2025 3rd (their own) and 50% retained on Rantanen

Heck of a wild trade if this happens. Would have thought Chicago would get more there but wait for the final version. 

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Kevyn Adams is incompetent 

According to Greg Wyshynski of ESPN it's sounding like:

 

Carolina: Mikko Rantanen, Taylor Hall

Colorado: Martin Necas, Jack Drury, 2025 2nd and 2026 4th

Chicago: 2025 3rd (their own) and 50% retained on Rantanen

 

More or less accurate, there's a UDC Nils Juntorp also involved.

 

The part I can't wrap my head around is what exactly Chicago got out of this whole mess.

 

Apparently they retained 50% of Rantanen and traded Hall to Carolina for their own 3rd back. Not exactly a coup 

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So maybe it was know around the league that Rantanen was avaiable and no one wanted to make any other moves until they knew if they were in, or not in, on him. Now that he is moved, maybe other teams looking to add may look to the Sabres for 'lesser' players than Rantanen and we'll get some movement?

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This might backfire on the Canes. Seems quite a bit like their move for Guentzel last year. Rantanen is going to want a LOT of money to sign long term. 

Pity about Necas to Colorado. I was hoping he'd end up in Boston somehow with Pasternak and Zacha for an all Czech line one day. 

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Wow, did not see that one coming. What a trade! And I don't think those two teams are done yet. I am a bit curious how Rantanen fits in the Canes.

Also, reading a rumour that Rantanen didn't know this was coming and that he is shocked.

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59 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

Bissonette reporting rumor Crosby to Avs?

I'd be very surprised by that.

There has been talk about Crosby wanting to retire a penguin, some media guys saying he wants to be there till the end, etc. You don't always believe that....but I have seen a couple interviews with him on the topic and he comes across like he really, REALLY does not want to leave Pittsburgh, even to a better team.

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Nobody of worth that has a NMC in their contract is coming here to a half empty arena with 1 of the worst GM/owners in the league. So we need to be looking at guys with no trade clauses to see what might be available. 

Here are players with no NMC:

Elias Lindholm

Hampus Lindholm

Charlie McAvoy

David Pastrnak

Nikita Zadorov

Mikael Backlund

Jonathan Huberdeau

Nazem Kadri

Sebastian Aho

William Carrier

Jalen Chatfield

Jordan Staal

Seth Jones

Gabriel Landeskog

Nathan MacKinnon

Valeri Nichushkin

Devon Toews

Sean Monahan

Zach Werenski

Jamie Benn

Roope Hintz

Esa Lindell

Tyler Seguin

Leon Draisaitl

Zach Hyman

Evander Kane

Connor McDavid

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Darnell Nurse

Jeff Skinner

Aleksander Barkov

Gustav Forsling

Matthew Tkachuk

Carter Verhaeghe

Kevin Fiala

Vladislav Gavrikov

Anze Kopitar

Jonas Brodin

Marc-Andre Fleury

Marcus Foligno

Ryan Hartman

Kirill Kaprizov

Filip Forsberg

Roman Josi

Steven Stamkos

Jesper Bratt

Dougie Hamilton

Jacob Markstrom

Timo Meier

Ondrej Palat

Ilya Sorokin

Artemi Panarin

Vincent Trocheck

Mika Zibanejad

Claude Giroux

Travis Hamonic

Linus Ullmark

Sean Couturier

Sidney Crosby

Erik Karlsson

Kris Letang

Evgeni Malkin

Bryan Rust

Chandler Stephenson

Jake Guentzel

Victor Hedman

Brayden Point

Andrei Vasilevskiy

Auston Matthews

Mitch Marner

William Nylander

Morgan Rielly

Chris Tanev

John Tavares

Jake DeBrusk

J.T. Miller

Tyler Myers

Jack Eichel

Tomas Hertl

Alex Pietrangelo

Mark Stone

Pierre-Luc Dubois

Connor Hellebuyck

Josh Morrissey

Mark Scheifele

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12 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Kevyn Adams is incompetent 

According to Greg Wyshynski of ESPN it's sounding like:

 

Carolina: Mikko Rantanen, Taylor Hall

Colorado: Martin Necas, Jack Drury, 2025 2nd and 2026 4th

Chicago: 2025 3rd (their own) and 50% retained on Rantanen

IDK if this trade makes Carolina better. If the Hurricanes pony up the money to extend Rantanen then it changes but Necas and Drury were big parts of that team to move for a rental. And Hall doesn’t impress anymore.

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On 1/20/2025 at 8:35 AM, LTS said:

From what I have read, the trade was with the Red Wings who pulled the plug when they decided to make the coaching change. This is likely what killed that trade entirely. I'm not sure you can blame Adams on this one.

While I don't like Adams and the job he's done I do want to be real about it. He had a trade on the table and the other team pulled it. As to what the full trade would have been or if it would help the Sabres, that's impossible to say. But to the best of our knowledge, it was not Adams who failed to complete the deal.

Why there have been no others? Well, hard to say.

Rumors say he was trying to get Necas, but the player said no.   That would have been an excellent move. 

Prior to that he was after Pesce, another player that would have helped a lot.  

I am not excusing his performance.   Bottom line is that he fails to deliver.  Unfortunately, he has made the culture worse in his five years, not better.   

If I owned the team I would bring in a guy that is respected around the league.  Pay him what it takes to fix this mess.  That is first step to showing other players, player agents, and other GMs that this team is serious.  

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40 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

IDK if this trade makes Carolina better. If the Hurricanes pony up the money to extend Rantanen then it changes but Necas and Drury were big parts of that team to move for a rental. And Hall doesn’t impress anymore.

Carolina gets the best player in the trade, but for how long?

I really like it from a Colorado perspective, though. Necas is having a very good season and will look even better on MacKinnon's wing than he did in Carolina. Drury gives them a FO-winning center for depth. And there's recent news that Landeskog is making strides... which means he'll probably start skating with the team soon and be ready to play just around... mid-April.

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3 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Carolina gets the best player in the trade, but for how long?

I really like it from a Colorado perspective, though. Necas is having a very good season and will look even better on MacKinnon's wing than he did in Carolina. Drury gives them a FO-winning center for depth. And there's recent news that Landeskog is making strides... which means he'll probably start skating with the team soon and be ready to play just around... mid-April.

Avs acting like they want another Cup now.  

They are not waiting for 20 years old in their pipeline, they are acquiring players that are blockers.  Wait!  I don't understand?  

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5 hours ago, SabreFinn said:

Also, reading a rumour that Rantanen didn't know this was coming and that he is shocked.

yes, he wants top dollar, and now that he's away from a player of mackinnon's caliber, his numbers might come back down to earth.  that huge payday is going to be slightly less than he was asking for.

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2 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said:

He rejected the NY Rangers so I highly doubt he'd come here.

That may be because of how he felt about the franchise when they moved him out the last time he was there. Obviously the same ownership group. I don’t know anything about JT Miller’s personal life except that he’s from Ohio and used to call PA home. Maybe WNY id a better fit that NYC?

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1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said:

That may be because of how he felt about the franchise when they moved him out the last time he was there. Obviously the same ownership group. I don’t know anything about JT Miller’s personal life except that he’s from Ohio and used to call PA home. Maybe WNY id a better fit that NYC?

If the rumors about Millers personality are true, it wouldn’t be long at all before he became a real problem in the room.  No way his personality would shine on a team so ill equipped to win.

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6 minutes ago, Weave said:

If the rumors about Millers personality are true, it wouldn’t be long at all before he became a real problem in the room.  No way his personality would shine on a team so ill equipped to win.

You’re probably right, but they just might need a loud alpha like JT. 
 

This is slightly off-topic, but I’m a Red Sox fan.  When they reversed the curse, one of the cogs was Kevin Millar. He could hit a little, but he wasn’t a star whose production they relied upon.  But he was constantly keeping things light and positive. The whole Cowboy Up, “don’t let us win one” against the Yankees, whiskey shots before the WS games, organizing team dinners on the road where everyone came, and having the time of his life. And this is in the face of an 86 year drought and a ruthless & frustrated media and fanbase. The Sox don’t do what they did without him. 
 

Give me Mr. Accountability in JT and find me a Kevin Millar (Zucker returning might fit the bill—he’s fun), and that’s a good start.  There is more to do (including finding someone to parter with Power), but I think JT helps the room. We have no one like him around here.  

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1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said:

That may be because of how he felt about the franchise when they moved him out the last time he was there. Obviously the same ownership group. I don’t know anything about JT Miller’s personal life except that he’s from Ohio and used to call PA home. Maybe WNY id a better fit that NYC?

He is a defensive liability which is why the Canucks don't mind parting with him and we already have plenty of those on the roster currently. I don't see where he adds anything different other than toughness to this squad imo.

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15 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

He is a defensive liability which is why the Canucks don't mind parting with him and we already have plenty of those on the roster currently. I don't see where he adds anything different other than toughness to this squad imo.

He had 103 points last year lol

We got a lot of those guys? 😀

You and I see the player differently and that’s ok. He’s got a full no-move clause, so it’s probably useless even talking about him.  

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3 hours ago, will said:

yes, he wants top dollar, and now that he's away from a player of mackinnon's caliber, his numbers might come back down to earth.  that huge payday is going to be slightly less than he was asking for.

Believe it or not, but his point produktion without MacKinnon is even slightly better than with him. Even if the sample size is not that big.

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2 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

He had 103 points last year lol

We got a lot of those guys? 😀

You and I see the player differently and that’s ok. He’s got a full no-move clause, so it’s probably useless even talking about him.  

Not entirely differently, I do want a solid veteran like him just not a 31 year old who's best days are behind him and is a liability defensively. Get a solid 2 way forward who has some life left, there has to be 1 out there with a NTC. 

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