GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Las Vegas Golden Knights 01/04/25 10PM ET-- MSG, ESPN+ for out of market

[Wyldnwoody44]

I had the chance to pop on fubo at work at keep the game on in the background. I made a conscious choice to not do that...

Sabres/Golden Knights SHOULD be must see hockey TV, the Eichel saga, the high scoring nature of the teams (ha) 

Instead, its Brady beating up on the bills for 14 years. 

[Crusader1969]

Loved hearing Ruff say that "this teams misses the net way too often"  Hello Alex Tuch 

complained about the two 2v1s at start of 2nd period and neither resulted in a shot on goal.  
of course Tuch was responsible for creating the 2v1 but was also unable to complete the pass and chance was wasted 

One indication that things are about to turn around for this team will be Tuch being slotted on the 3rd line with the wingers on line 1 & 2 clearly being better than him.   Until that day, the team will be mediocre to terrible 

 

[Crusader1969]

4 hours ago, Sidc3000 said:

Yes now.  Maybe just maybe note Terry will put some money into the Sabres. 🤞

 

Listening to the post game and reimer was speechless for a long moment.

 

Lindy is so frustrated with this team. You hear it in his post game comments.  I’m sure he is at loss for answers on how they can be so inconsistent. 

 

 

when your young core has learned only to lose, what do you expect? They know they’re out of it after the 13 game losing streak. Why bust your ass when you know you know nothing is going to be done to you. I’m wondering if Lindy has orders not to punish these guys because the only player that was in the dog house for a bit was Quinn. 
 

This is what Terry should do but won’t. Have a presser announcing an aggressive plan to make this team competitive next season.

- first by putting players on notice, publicly. They are not safe and he expects consequences for horrible play.  This organization will not be a safe space anymore.  

- infusion of cash into the organization to rebuild the front office and operations

- with some of that money,  announce the search for a  President of Hockey Operations from outside the organization

I know none of this will happen but a boy can dream, can’t he? 😂
 

 

I think that's another way of saying Sell The Team.  Cause, as you said, none of this will happen under Pegula 

[WhenWillItEnd66]

We are a hot mess.  I do not even care anymore.  Another season except we are definitely a bottom 3 team. If next season everyone is still here, I will only be watching Avs hockey.  This is a franchise embarrassment that nobody on this teams management has a clue to fix.  Bringing in recycled ex players and old Sabres coaches will never ever help.  Feel sorry for the couple of players that are busting their *****. 

[Nitro60]

The problems are evident.  The [layers have been told by Ruff and his staff.  It looks like the players cannot or will not make the needed changes to play better.  

[SabresVet]

3 hours ago, jad1 said:

There is no doubt that Adams should have been fired last season.  Letting him stick around to pick a 3rd coach was an exercise in futility.  The entire league knew he wasn't up to the job and was a dead man walking.  This year is just another colossal waste of time for a franchise that has wasted too much time already.

And the blind squirrel thing, it's our only hope, but it did work for the Bills.  

I think people forget how bad TPegs was from the point of buying the Bills in late 2014 to hiring McDermott in early 2017.  Retaining Doug Whaley, trusting Russ Brandon, hiring Rex Ryan, and then firing Ryan with the HC and GM sniping at each other in the media near the end.  Sure, it led to McDermott, who received authority as a condition of employment and who fired Whaley to bring on Beane, but that was 2+ wasted seasons before they even started a real rebuild. 

This organization hasn't done an honest HC or GM search in 5+ years which is why I think Terry is scared of them.  He's made the wrong call so many times and wants to retain his meddling abilities while presenting that they're a serious organization.  But you can't have both and it's why we end up with limited "searches" where he makes the call in the end.  No decent GM candidate signs up to work under those conditions.  

[jad1]

1 hour ago, SabresVet said:

I think people forget how bad TPegs was from the point of buying the Bills in late 2014 to hiring McDermott in early 2017.  Retaining Doug Whaley, trusting Russ Brandon, hiring Rex Ryan, and then firing Ryan with the HC and GM sniping at each other in the media near the end.  Sure, it led to McDermott, who received authority as a condition of employment and who fired Whaley to bring on Beane, but that was 2+ wasted seasons before they even started a real rebuild. 

This organization hasn't done an honest HC or GM search in 5+ years which is why I think Terry is scared of them.  He's made the wrong call so many times and wants to retain his meddling abilities while presenting that they're a serious organization.  But you can't have both and it's why we end up with limited "searches" where he makes the call in the end.  No decent GM candidate signs up to work under those conditions.  

It's no surprise that Pegula is bad at hiring his front office.  He's no different that 95% of other professional sports owners.  The best thing about Pegula is that he was willing to quickly fire his bad hires.  I don't know why he's decided to stick with Adams.  He'd have been better off firing Adams after two seasons, like he did with Whaley and Ryan.

 

[Sidc3000]

1 hour ago, jad1 said:

It's no surprise that Pegula is bad at hiring his front office.  He's no different that 95% of other professional sports owners.  The best thing about Pegula is that he was willing to quickly fire his bad hires.  I don't know why he's decided to stick with Adams.  He'd have been better off firing Adams after two seasons, like he did with Whaley and Ryan.

 

He’s driving with Adams because he promised to cut costs and Pegula developed him over the years. That is a problem with Terry, he can be loyal to a fault. 

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, jad1 said:

It's no surprise that Pegula is bad at hiring his front office.  He's no different that 95% of other professional sports owners.  The best thing about Pegula is that he was willing to quickly fire his bad hires.  I don't know why he's decided to stick with Adams.  He'd have been better off firing Adams after two seasons, like he did with Whaley and Ryan.

 

Two reasons. 
 

1.   Talk around the league of him not giving his FO and coach hires a legit chance.  
2.  Adams puts up with all the constraints.  

[jad1]

8 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Two reasons. 
 

1.   Talk around the league of him not giving his FO and coach hires a legit chance.  
2.  Adams puts up with all the constraints.  

Yeah, those narratives are nonsense.

 

 

 

[HumanSlinky39]

11 hours ago, Slack_in_MA said:

Saw this fan comment this morning, which I thought was spot on:

 

“The kids don't want it. They don't skate. They don't score. They don't hit. They don't fight. They float... they don't love to win... they don't hate to lose.”

Why should they? Terry, Kevyn have fostered a culture of excuse mongering. How many years have we heard they're the youngest team in hockey? Has anybody been held accountable for poor play? Does the FO make any real effort to improve the roster and get these "young" guys real help? 

They lost double-digits in a row and their anamorphic bologna sandwich owner flew in and told them he believes in them and no help is forthcoming.

This organization is a case study in failed ownership and management.

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, jad1 said:

Yeah, those narratives are nonsense.

 

 

 

Narrative?   If Adam’s doesn’t put up with why is he there selling it.   

[Slack_in_MA]

48 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Why should they? Terry, Kevyn have fostered a culture of excuse mongering. How many years have we heard they're the youngest team in hockey? Has anybody been held accountable for poor play? Does the FO make any real effort to improve the roster and get these "young" guys real help? 

They lost double-digits in a row and their anamorphic bologna sandwich owner flew in and told them he believes in them and no help is forthcoming.

This organization is a case study in failed ownership and management.

Gotta be honest… had to look up anamorphic. 😂 

Yeah, it’s so painfully clear Terry can only focus on one pro sports franchise at a time. He and his henchman KA are tarnishing the Sabres crest day by day.

And as someone who has followed the team for over 50 years, it makes me sad.

[Ripper]

21 hours ago, Stoner said:

I have no idea what this response is about.

I’m sorry Stoner.  I owe you an apology.  In your first response you were criticizing the Sabres and not me.  I failed to read your context properly.  Thanks for your support and I’ll be more careful in the future.

[Stoner]

1 hour ago, Ripper said:

I’m sorry Stoner.  I owe you an apology.  In your first response you were criticizing the Sabres and not me.  I failed to read your context properly.  Thanks for your support and I’ll be more careful in the future.

No problem! It's easy to misread in the virtual world... and it wasn't the best example of writing on my part.

Are you the real Ripper or just a fan?

[SabresVet]

6 hours ago, jad1 said:

It's no surprise that Pegula is bad at hiring his front office.  He's no different that 95% of other professional sports owners.  The best thing about Pegula is that he was willing to quickly fire his bad hires.  I don't know why he's decided to stick with Adams.  He'd have been better off firing Adams after two seasons, like he did with Whaley and Ryan.

I don't expect owners to be personnel executives, but I do expect them to find people who will advise, line up interviews, and help make a decision.  He's not had that with either franchise when he went in.  For example, Ryan's firing was extremely awkward:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-owner-explains-why-rex-ryan-was-fired-and-why-gm-had-clue/   

Whaley's firing was pushed by McDermott, who at his introductory PC talked of being the one voice for the Bills.  And Whaley was known throughout league circles as not the hardest working guy which conflicted with a workaholic like McDermott.

All of this is to say, Terry's always been a bumbling mess with front office decisions.  I'd be OK with that if he had someone to reliably advise him, but with neither the Sabres nor Bills has he had that.  He just trusts the people he inherits, sees them predictably fail, and then finds himself needing to identify replacements...and this is why we're here.   

[Ripper]

On 1/5/2025 at 9:58 PM, Stoner said:

No problem! It's easy to misread in the virtual world... and it wasn't the best example of writing on my part.

Are you the real Ripper or just a fan?

Not the real Ripper.  One college freshman day I had a date with a bottle of Thunderbird wine (puke).  I stumbled back to the dorm and then slept 26 consecutive hours.  It’s been “Rip” van Winkle ever since!  LOL