GDT: Buffalo Sabres @ Las Vegas Golden Knights 01/04/25 10PM ET-- MSG, ESPN+ for out of market

[Spoonman]

NHL considers Relegation of Sabres to AHL. 

 

[GoPuckYourself]

7 minutes ago, K012010 said:

We need to use the young assets while they still have trade value. Prospects and guys on the team now. 

My plan is to go all veteran essentially and put together the best team with no trade clauses. The primary goal is the curse breaker. 7/8 spot. Then strategically rebuild by replacing certain veterans with young talent. Benson is the only one that stays through this that’s south of 30. 

This is an exorcism situation that requires experienced men with the grit to get it done. There will be no successful development of young players until the curse is broken. 

I'd rather our new GM do the trading. 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I'd rather our new GM do the trading. 

I’m actually shocked at the level of ineptitude the franchise is willing to put up with.

This is rather insane 

Edited Sunday at 05:39 AM by Thorner

[mjd1001]

2 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I'd rather our new GM do the trading. 

Please, if you make a change bring in someone from outside the organization, and let them clean out the current hockey department and start over.

Adams is head of the current 'room', but they all have input into decisions.  If you are going to start over, START OVER and stop forcing the 'new guy' to keep most of what is around and below him.

I think the worst case scenario is they move Adams out of the GM role but keep all of the other same guys in the hockey department and not much changes.

Edited Sunday at 05:41 AM by mjd1001

[Carmel Corn]

2 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Ray talks him up, broadcast had the title graphic ready. I mean, we all know what's coming.

Yup, and it gives me no hope for the future of this team.  I've never seen an organization reward people for so little accomplished (as the Sabres do)

3 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I'd rather our new GM do the trading. 

Yes, but seriously....is this EVER going to happen?

[mjd1001]

1 minute ago, Carmel Corn said:

Yup, and it gives me no hope for the future of this team.  I've never seen an organization reward people for so little accomplished (as the Sabres do)

its cheaper for Terry that way.

[thewookie1]

2 minutes ago, Thorner said:

There is no reason a GM averaging 70 points for half a decade should have a job

none 

Under the parameters of Terry’s restrictions, he’s failed utterly 

I'm good with firing him; I've literally given him every olive branch, mulligan, excuse in the book and he continues to just shove them in my face.

 

Zucker with another goal; guy should of been extended for a year or two yesterday. He plays exactly the way we need with his net front presence as well general grit (hits occasionally but generally plays hard) 

Dahlin gets another assist as he is likely getting back spasms trying to haul the corpse of the team around.

[DarthEbriate]

2 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

I'd rather our new GM do the trading. 

No new GM is coming unless Adams quits or upsets the owner personally. Professionally, this is the status quo.

If the owner's speech to the players in Montreal is to be taken at face value, then no big shakeup or outside help is coming. The only salvation for their careers is to demand a trade. At least for 2 more seasons until they're all grown-ups.

[Thorner]

2 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Yup, and it gives me no hope for the future of this team.  I've never seen an organization reward people for so little accomplished (as the Sabres do)

Yes, but seriously....is this EVER going to happen?

Why achieve success now when we can build long term sustainable greatness 

1 minute ago, thewookie1 said:

I'm good with firing him; I've literally given him every olive branch, mulligan, excuse in the book and he continues to just shove them in my face.

 

Zucker with another goal; guy should of been extended for a year or two yesterday. He plays exactly the way we need with his net front presence as well general grit (hits occasionally but generally plays hard) 

Dahlin gets another assist as he is likely getting back spasms trying to haul the corpse of the team around.

There should honestly be a board filter applied where any defence of any member of the organization gets blocked until we make the playoffs 

they all suck. No one deserves our effort 

This franchise is just taking a big sh*t everywhere 

[HumanSlinky39]

16/19 L's...0 moves made. For a team with a stated goal of "playoffs."

[Carmel Corn]

1 minute ago, Thorner said:

Why achieve success now when we can build long term sustainable greatness 

With players who WANT to be there right?  But wait, I thought the answer was ALREADY in the room?!?! 😁

[Flashsabre]

BLOW IT ALL UP FROM THE TOP DOWN!!!

When a front office declares this season is playoffs or bust and has the team competing for the first OA pick in January then it is a complete and utter failure. Add 13 previous years of ineptitude on top and it is unbearable and inexcusable.

[DarthEbriate]

[Pimlach]

18 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

If the Sabres were even a decent team, Zucker's production as of late would probably be a nice story worthy of discussing around the league.

A 30+ year old Journeyman who has only scored 80 or so goals in the past 8 years of his career, is not 2nd on his team in scoring and on pace for a 30 goal season.

But with this team, whatever!

He has 140 goals in the past 8 seasons.  

He played in Minnesota for 8+ years and he had a 3+ year stint in Pittsburgh, so not a true journeyman at all. He had 27 goals just two seasons ago. He has six 20+ goal seasons, one was 30+. 

He is proof that there are guys who can help us.  

[HumanSlinky39]

I honestly thought the end of the Kruger days was rock bottom, and yet here we are...right...back...down..in...the...muck...

[HumanSlinky39]

Caps up next. Awesome.

[rickshaw]

Honestly, how long can Adams keep his job? This has gotten to the incredible stage. I’m fielding q’s from buddies asking me what is going on? 

[HumanSlinky39]

5 minutes ago, rickshaw said:

Honestly, how long can Adams keep his job? This has gotten to the incredible stage. I’m fielding q’s from buddies asking me what is going on? 

This isn't a serious hockey organization.

[Thorner]

29 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

and STILL the viceroy of the sabres federation 

[Thorner]

lol there’s a portion of my brain (usually summoned W/alchohol)) that loves this team, in as is condition. kinda funny that they always lose. 

like u know when u say a word a bunch of times in a row and it loses all meaning temporarily? I/we do that with now 14 years missed playoffs 

im sorry… FOURTEEN years? that is objectively hilarious 

Edited Sunday at 06:26 AM by Thorner

[bunomatic]

1 hour ago, Thorner said:

lol there’s a portion of my brain (usually summoned W/alchohol)) that loves this team, in as is condition. kinda funny that they always lose. 

like u know when u say a word a bunch of times in a row and it loses all meaning temporarily? I/we do that with now 14 years missed playoffs 

im sorry… FOURTEEN years? that is objectively hilarious 

I agree but pathetic also comes to mind. How can a team be this pathetic for so long? Its mindboggling. 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, bunomatic said:

It really is striking how far this team is from good. This franchise has zero leadership or accountibility. And it starts with the owner.

Two simple benchmarks.

Benson stands out like some extremely able prospect here and on any other team he'd be good, but he'd be just another rookie. 

Zucker, a third line player on past teams, stands out like he's an allstar here. 

Everything is relative. 

[Sidc3000]

4 hours ago, Carmel Corn said:

Appert's acting like he's the HC

Because he’s the heir apparent. It’s was plainly obvious when they hired Ruff and made Appert his assistant  that he would be the new HC after Lindy retired.

4 hours ago, rickshaw said:

Honestly, how long can Adams keep his job? This has gotten to the incredible stage. I’m fielding q’s from buddies asking me what is going on? 

He’s not going anywhere. What other GM worth a damn would want to work for the Sabres 

[Sidc3000]

Quote of the Fu(king season! Thank god someone in this organization said it. 
 

"We have to come to the realization that we can't be a young team anymore."

- Rasmus Dahlin

Even the players are realizing that this young team thing doesn’t work. I have a feeling there is going to be some very strong works for the GM at the end of season sit down with his leadership group. Unfortunately it will go in one ear and out the other. 

[nucci]

5 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

All Terry’s money is in the Bills and the new stadium. He’s not spending on this failure of a hockey team anymore. Adams has his marching orders: go lean, keep costs down, take the bullets.

he sold 20% of the team to cover overruns of the stadium, the state is giving him money and PSL's are covering costs also. He's not spending much at all