What would you trade for Elias Petterson?

[Thorner]

5 hours ago, kas23 said:

I don’t understand this. Can you be more clear about what you are reading?

Apologies for being cryptically vague.

I’ve felt for a while that a couple of the Names of sabres twitter have taken on a curiously “in defence of the sabres” type tone..correlating with our descent down the standings. It could just be me, I have to remember to check my frustration with this franchise sometimes 

[Mr. Allen]

I read an article saying Peterson was one of the more disappointing players at 4 nations.  Has he just fallen off? 

[HumanSlinky39]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

I read an article saying Peterson was one of the more disappointing players at 4 nations.  Has he just fallen off? 

He's one of the most talented players in the game, but has been wildly inconsistent throughout his career. There's something lacking mentally that prevents him from keeping it together. At his age, it's hard to expect that to change. VAN never should have paid him what they did. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole at this point. You have no idea what you're getting from a guy being paid like a superstar.

[PerreaultForever]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

I read an article saying Peterson was one of the more disappointing players at 4 nations.  Has he just fallen off? 

Does not seem to rise to big occasion games. Not very competitive. A highly skilled guy that maybe doesn't care all that much about winning? That seems to be the case. 

The Miller thing was pretty weird. Gay slurs and stuff? I don't know how much of that was actually true but it was nasty and it's amazing that team didn't fall apart completely with that going on. Peterson might need a sports psychologist at this point to try to get back on track. 

[Flashsabre]

$11.6 million for the next 7 years is too

much money for a guy that is a mess right now. So much going on with him physically and mentally that it is too much of a gamble in my mind right now to give up top assets and hope that everything goes back to the way it was for last year.

[mjd1001]

Since they played Buffalo right after Thanksgiving, he has 4 goals in 30 games.

I'm interested in him, but it seems like since the moment he signed that extentions, his production dropped, and as we get farther and farther away from that moment, his production drop is accelerating.

[Pimlach]

I tried to watch him closely in the 4 Nations tournament.  He was a floater most if the time.   Way overpaid.  Not what we need.  
 

I would not pursue him.   He has skill, he uses it at times, but he will not help fix this team.  The Sabres should pursue Brady Tkachuk if they want to change the culture and build a better team. 

Edited February 24 by Pimlach

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I tried to watch him closely in the 4 Nations tournament.  He was a floater most if the time.   Way overpaid.  Not what we need.  
 

I would not pursue him.   He has skill, he uses it at times, but he will not help fix this team.  The Sabres should pursue Brady Tkachuk if they want to change the culture and build a better team. 

The one thing that the Sabres don't need is adding a floater to one of your two top lines. That particular attribute is exactly the opposite of what you want to add to this team. Watching a player with high skill levels is aesthetically appealing. But when you are trying to instill a tougher and more responsible two-way play to your team, he doesn't add to that feature. You also pointed out a trait that makes him not only less appealing but someone whom I want to avoid i.e. he uses it (skill) at times. I'll always take the less talented player who consistently plays hard over the more naturally talented player who turns it off and on. He's a bad fit for what this organization is trying to do. 

[IAmNotARobot]

There was a picture of him icing his knee at 4 nations I believe. Who knows if he will ever recover really. Unfortunatly with that monster contract he has to play like a top player to make it worth it and right now he is good but with an unpredictable knee. Not worth the risk.

[Flashsabre]

29 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I tried to watch him closely in the 4 Nations tournament.  He was a floater most if the time.   Way overpaid.  Not what we need.  
 

I would not pursue him.   He has skill, he uses it at times, but he will not help fix this team.  The Sabres should pursue Brady Tkachuk if they want to change the culture and build a better team. 

The “idea” of what Brady Tkachuk is to this board far exceeds what he actually is. If the Sabres ever got him this board would soon turn to “he doesn’t play big enough of the time” “he only picks his spots to act tough which is few and far between”  He’s a very good player but he is reaching Superman levels to some.

[Pimlach]

25 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

The “idea” of what Brady Tkachuk is to this board far exceeds what he actually is. If the Sabres ever got him this board would soon turn to “he doesn’t play big enough of the time” “he only picks his spots to act tough which is few and far between”  He’s a very good player but he is reaching Superman levels to some.

Ok.  Let just continue to get knocked around, lose more games, eventually lose our current core group, and continue on road to oblivion until the NHL decides to shut it down.  

Brady or Pettersson.  Who is going to fill the building  and improve the team?   The “idea” of Brady is better than the reality of Pettersson.  

[mjd1001]

44 minutes ago, IAmNotARobot said:

There was a picture of him icing his knee at 4 nations I believe. Who knows if he will ever recover really. Unfortunatly with that monster contract he has to play like a top player to make it worth it and right now he is good but with an unpredictable knee. Not worth the risk.

I'm more worried about his injury history than him being a floater.  I dont' watch evey Canucks game, but as they are on HNIC quite a bit on Saturday, plus vs the Sabres, a lot of us get to see him 10+ times per year.  He doesn't seem to be a 'floater' to me. He often skates hard.  He for sure hustles back in his own end. The issue with me is not what does he CHOOSE to do, but rather what CAN he do.

When I see what others see as 'floating', to me its often he just can't do what he was able to 2 years ago.   Either way though, that isn't a good sign.

[Flashsabre]

6 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Ok.  Let just continue to get knocked around, lose more games, eventually lose our current core group, and continue on road to oblivion until the NHL decides to shut it down.  

Brady or Pettersson.  Who is going to fill the building  and improve the team?   The “idea” of Brady is better than the reality of Pettersson.  

First of all I don’t want Pettersson. 
So in your opinion one guy changes getting knocked around or not. I guess I’ve missed the Sens being the toughest team in hockey for the past 5 years and all the success Brady has led them to.

I wasn’t meaning to dump on you. I’m just tired of this idea on the board that Brady Tkachuk is the answer to all the problems of  this franchise.

Edited February 24 by Flashsabre

[inkman]

10 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Ok.  Let just continue to get knocked around, lose more games, eventually lose our current core group, and continue on road to oblivion until the NHL decides to shut it down.  

Brady or Pettersson.  Who is going to fill the building  and improve the team?   The “idea” of Brady is better than the reality of Pettersson.  

They should trade for both.  🤣 Keep Rasmus and Tage.  Use Cozens, Byram, Power, Quinn, Peterka, Kulich, Rosen, and whoever else to get Pettersson and Tkachuk.  Everyone wins.  Except the Sabres probably.  😀

Edited February 24 by inkman

[mjd1001]

4 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

First of all I don’t want Pettersson. 
So in your opinion one guy changes getting knocked around or not. I guess I’ve missed the Sens being the toughest team in hockey for the past 5 years and all the success Brady has led them to.

I wasn’t meaning to dump on you. I’m just tired of this idea on the board that Brady Tkachuk is the answer to all the problems of  this franchise.

Maybe a guy like Tkachuk brings a 'level of compete' to the team that Buffalo doesn't have.  If you think effort and toughness IS an issue, than a centerpiece player like him can have an impact.

On the other hand, some of the 'insiders' on Canadian radio seem to think Tkachuk is a very important player to Ottawa, but they think that Stutzle drives the team. As he goes, so do the Sens.  At least I have heard that converstation a few times.  

[SabreFinn]

I see Zegras as the only realistic option as an upgrade on 2C. Tkachuk would be great, so would Mitch Marner. Both played great 4nations and could help the team take several steps forward, but I can not see them playing for Sabres. If we are talking centers named Elias, I would rather have the Boston Elias, even If none of them stood out at 4nations, and Lindholm has NMC. 

[Flashsabre]

28 minutes ago, SabreFinn said:

I see Zegras as the only realistic option as an upgrade on 2C. Tkachuk would be great, so would Mitch Marner. Both played great 4nations and could help the team take several steps forward, but I can not see them playing for Sabres. If we are talking centers named Elias, I would rather have the Boston Elias, even If none of them stood out at 4nations, and Lindholm has NMC. 

The problem is the Ducks have played Zegras as a LW and he is on his second down year. If the Sabres want to trade for him and move him to centre then they can but I wouldn’t be giving up top assets to try that experiment.

If Marner hits UFA you can always throw a truckload of money at him. But how much is he worth? $13-14 million is too rich for my blood.

Tkachuk is a pipe dream to me. I do like the player but IF Ottawa were to move him it wouldn’t be to a division rival. 

 

[SabreFinn]

8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

The problem is the Ducks have played Zegras as a LW and he is on his second down year. If the Sabres want to trade for him and move him to centre then they can but I wouldn’t be giving up top assets to try that experiment.

If Marner hits UFA you can always throw a truckload of money at him. But how much is he worth? $13-14 million is too rich for my blood.

Tkachuk is a pipe dream to me. I do like the player but IF Ottawa were to move him it wouldn’t be to a division rival. 

 

I think a lot depends on who we could play Zegras with. He would bring playmaking qualities that we need on powerplay. 5on5 he would not bring much improvement.

I would give Marner 13 million. But then we need to get Cozens or Powers' contract moved.

[mjd1001]

On 2/24/2025 at 10:43 AM, Flashsabre said:

If Marner hits UFA you can always throw a truckload of money at him. But how much is he worth? $13-14 million is too rich for my blood.

 

Marner doesn't get much talk around here, and he is not a perfect player. He has a perceived lack of toughness and certainly size that many here want. But of all the players that MIGHT be available this offseason, I think he is the one that would help this team the most.

$13-$14m per year is really high.  I don't think/know if 5 years, $62m would get it done (probably not, maybe 6 years, $80m is where he would want to start), but if that would get him to start listening, I would for sure continue those talks.

Edited February 25 by mjd1001

[inkman]

33 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Marner doesn't get much talk around here, and he is not a perfect player. He has a perceived lack of toughness and certainly size that many here want. But of all the players that MIGHT be available this offseason, I think he is the one that would help this team the most.

$13-$14m per year is really high.  I don't think/know if 5 years, $62m would get it done (probably not, maybe 6 years, $80m is where he would want to start), but if that would get him to start listening, I would for sure continue those talks.

I also believe acquiring great players in their prime would help the Sabres. 

[SabreFinn]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

Marner doesn't get much talk around here, and he is not a perfect player. He has a perceived lack of toughness and certainly size that many here want. But of all the players that MIGHT be available this offseason, I think he is the one that would help this team the most.

$13-$14m per year is really high.  I don't think/know if 5 years, $62m would get it done (probably not, maybe 6 years, $80m is where he would want to start), but if that would get him to start listening, I would for sure continue those talks.

If Sabres want to be a serious team and eventually a contender we should try to get a player like Marner.

And I was surprised by how good twoway player he is when watching him in 4Nations.

[Crusader1969]

I think everyone is missing on the real "crown jewel"  that will become available this summer and will only cost the Sabres cap space 

Sam Bennett - as tough as they come, plays the "rat" role are well as anyone. 
will drop the gloves with anyone and to top it off - is a good player 

not to mention - he has done the one thing Petterson, Marner and Tkachuk haven't done and that's win

 

[mjd1001]

15 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

I think everyone is missing on the real "crown jewel"  that will become available this summer and will only cost the Sabres cap space 

Sam Bennett - as tough as they come, plays the "rat" role are well as anyone. 
will drop the gloves with anyone and to top it off - is a good player 

not to mention - he has done the one thing Petterson, Marner and Tkachuk haven't done and that's win

 

If the Sabres did make a move for Bennet, I would not be upset. I think he would being something positive to this team.  I'm just not as high on him as I would be on some other players.

When I watched Florida play, I see a player that is better than Cozens, but shares some of his bad qualities. In the opener this year vs Boston and a couple other games I have seen Florida play, I remember Bennet finshing checks he should not finish.  He seems like he'll take himself out of the play and cause problems in his own end just to finish a check. 

Again, not that I would hate him here, but I think sometimes he creates almost as many issues as he brings and if given a choice, I would rather overpay for Marner.

Edited February 25 by mjd1001

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

I think everyone is missing on the real "crown jewel"  that will become available this summer and will only cost the Sabres cap space 

Sam Bennett - as tough as they come, plays the "rat" role are well as anyone. 
will drop the gloves with anyone and to top it off - is a good player 

not to mention - he has done the one thing Petterson, Marner and Tkachuk haven't done and that's win

 

Yup, good player that fills a needed role.

Not an impact player but I would love to see him play for Buffalo.  Get him, keep Tuch, keep Greenway, keep Zucker, keep Mcleod.  Do this and add a play making center and add a solid and tough defensive minded RHD.  

[Crusader1969]

23 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

If the Sabres did make a move for Bennet, I would not be upset. I think he would being something positive to this team.  I'm just not as high on him as I would be on some other players.

When I watched Florida play, I see a player that is better than Cozens, but shares some of his bad qualities. In the opener this year vs Boston and a couple other games I have seen Florida play, I remember Bennet finshing checks he should not finish.  He seems like he'll take himself out of the play and cause problems in his own end just to finish a check. 

Again, not that I would hate him here, but I think sometimes he creates almost as many issues as he brings and if given a choice, I would rather overpay for Marner.

My rebuttal to that is , we've seen Marner and Petterson in the playoffs and they've wilted.  On the other hand Bennett has thrived.  
it was a good night to be on the Bennett bandwagon last night.  Gordie Howe Hat trick with G, A and Fight 

not to mention he is going to be cheaper than both Marner and Petterson

20 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Yup, good player that fills a needed role.

Not an impact player but I would love to see him play for Buffalo.  Get him, keep Tuch, keep Greenway, keep Zucker, keep Mcleod.  Do this and add a play making center and add a solid and tough defensive minded RHD.  

I disagree with the "not impact" player.  
I think he brings every bit of an impact to a game than anyone else we've spoken about